Wilder KO Stiverne
Wilder KO Stiverne
you heard it first here.
i am disappointed that on a boxing forum, were normaly people in here should understand boxing, realy know little. so little, that so many choose a fat out of shape stiverne to win against an a level athletic opponent. just because fat stiverne beat a fat areolo. both guys dont train, both a b level. shame, that a fat guy like this a world title.
but to your luck, you have a boxing expert on this forum who is gonne explain you short how the fight will end up:
wilder waits, unleashes, doesnt land to much, but by round 2 finds his rythm and totaly crushes stiverne inside 5. stiverne will land little and wont handle the athletic ability of wilder. stiverne will stand flat footed, wont be able to move enough because he is fat and wont win 1 single round.
i am disappointed that on a boxing forum, were normaly people in here should understand boxing, realy know little. so little, that so many choose a fat out of shape stiverne to win against an a level athletic opponent. just because fat stiverne beat a fat areolo. both guys dont train, both a b level. shame, that a fat guy like this a world title.
but to your luck, you have a boxing expert on this forum who is gonne explain you short how the fight will end up:
wilder waits, unleashes, doesnt land to much, but by round 2 finds his rythm and totaly crushes stiverne inside 5. stiverne will land little and wont handle the athletic ability of wilder. stiverne will stand flat footed, wont be able to move enough because he is fat and wont win 1 single round.
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What did we hear first? Certainly not the prediction that Wilder will KO Stiverne.
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We'll see what happens when Stiverne throws the counter hook...
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Saw the weigh in photo's. Stiverne looks like a fat blob.
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forcefraser
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Hope Wilder moiders him. If he can land that big shot then Stiverne will fold.
Wilder v Fury in July could be the go.
Wilder v Fury in July could be the go.
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Wilder KO Stiverne
Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it first here.
i am disappointed that on a boxing forum, were normaly people in here should understand boxing, realy know little. so little, that so many choose a fat out of shape stiverne to win against an a level athletic opponent. just because fat stiverne beat a fat areolo. both guys dont train, both a b level. shame, that a fat guy like this a world title.
but to your luck, you have a boxing expert on this forum who is gonne explain you short how the fight will end up:
wilder waits, unleashes, doesnt land to much, but by round 2 finds his rythm and totaly crushes stiverne inside 5. stiverne will land little and wont handle the athletic ability of wilder. stiverne will stand flat footed, wont be able to move enough because he is fat and wont win 1 single round.
No doubt you will be returning after the fight expecting praise for your prediction on the truly outlandish 8/15 shot of Wilder stopping Stiverne.
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So the logic is that anyone with good physic going to run through Stiverne like a train. Pathetic. Try to use your brain a little.
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dont put words into my mouth i didnt said mr smart arse! i never said what you just wrote, i said wilder beats him down, not anybody who is a athletic. wilder beats him, because he is more athletic and has size advantage and on top power advantage.Tarkus wrote:So the logic is that anyone with good physic going to run through Stiverne like a train. Pathetic. Try to use your brain a little.
roy jones dominated for years and years opponents because of his good physic. physic is as important maybe even more important than technic. i can learn as much boxing and as many technical stuff as i want, if i dont train my body right and i dont have the condition and the athletic ability, than i dont have the speed, the condition and the overall capability to move fast, forward, lateral, everything. guys like jones, leonard, manny, mostly they didnt dominate opponents because they were technicly lightyears better than there opponents, they were simply faster, quicker, stronger, moved more fluid and that comes with an athletic body, with what you are either born with or you dont. wilder has good athletic skills, great power. stiverne is nothing but a untrained chubby guy, who gets praised for beating up another untrained chubby guy. no chance.
you can have the most perfect technicly jab, but if you are weak and even through the technic how you execute the jab is good, if you have no pop, no speed, no power behind it, than the jab is meaningless. your opponent doesnt respect your power, or he counters you because your so slow.
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cold187 wrote:http://spam.com/articles/klitsc ... d-even-but
klitschko says wilder cant take a punch
yeah great, wlad cant take it either, thats why he wrestles all the time and pays off the refs that they dont dq him for excessive holding......
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and why he is champ for last 10 years and lineal for 5 (and counting)Chepppaaa wrote:cold187 wrote:http://spam.com/articles/klitsc ... d-even-but
klitschko says wilder cant take a punch
yeah great, wlad cant take it either, thats why he wrestles all the time and pays off the refs that they dont dq him for excessive holding......
no champ will be do dominant for a while
he still sparked wilder in sparring
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Wilder by KO obviously!
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cold187 wrote:and why he is champ for last 10 years and lineal for 5 (and counting)Chepppaaa wrote:cold187 wrote:http://spam.com/articles/klitsc ... d-even-but
klitschko says wilder cant take a punch
yeah great, wlad cant take it either, thats why he wrestles all the time and pays off the refs that they dont dq him for excessive holding......
no champ will be do dominant for a while
he still sparked wilder in sparring
you dumb?
do you cant read?
i already wrote down 1 big reason why he wins everytime, because he pays out the refs, that they dont dq and allow him to do anything he wants, even if it is against the rules of boxing and one of those rules is, that you should be dq if you crab and holds excessivly.
on top, the heavyweight division are a bunch of fat untrained guys or blown up cruiserweights, no competition at all.
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Some pretty dumb comments on this one but i'll play. The intrigue surrounding this fight is Wilder. Let's face it, this guy got a title fight for the heavyweight championship of the world without fighting one legitimate contender. That is the crazy part about this fight. But that's not to say he can't do it, right? The truth is, i would love for it to be true. A good looking American kid with talent to save the heavyweight division and bring it back to the limelight. Inspire some young kids to put down the Playstation controller and get in the gym. But this is Wilder's first fight against a legitimate boxer. Don't sleep on Stiverne, he's a good boxer. Heavyweight Champion type talent? No, but i'm very sure that we will truly know where Wilder is at after this fight. Because Stiverne is legit providing he doesn't pull a Michael Spinks in there a la Tyson and take a dive.
Reports from David Haye's camp, Wilder got demolished in sparring sessions with him. Similar reports emerging from other heavyweight contenders that paid Wilder to be a punching bag. Tonight we will see either how good this kid really is or how pathetic boxing is that a guy can be fabricated like this and get a title shot.
Reports from David Haye's camp, Wilder got demolished in sparring sessions with him. Similar reports emerging from other heavyweight contenders that paid Wilder to be a punching bag. Tonight we will see either how good this kid really is or how pathetic boxing is that a guy can be fabricated like this and get a title shot.
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caldo2025 wrote:Some pretty dumb comments on this one but i'll play. The intrigue surrounding this fight is Wilder. Let's face it, this guy got a title fight for the heavyweight championship of the world without fighting one legitimate contender. That is the crazy part about this fight. But that's not to say he can't do it, right? The truth is, i would love for it to be true. A good looking American kid with talent to save the heavyweight division and bring it back to the limelight. Inspire some young kids to put down the Playstation controller and get in the gym. But this is Wilder's first fight against a legitimate boxer. Don't sleep on Stiverne, he's a good boxer. Heavyweight Champion type talent? No, but i'm very sure that we will truly know where Wilder is at after this fight. Because Stiverne is legit providing he doesn't pull a Michael Spinks in there a la Tyson and take a dive.
Reports from David Haye's camp, Wilder got demolished in sparring sessions with him. Similar reports emerging from other heavyweight contenders that paid Wilder to be a punching bag. Tonight we will see either how good this kid really is or how pathetic boxing is that a guy can be fabricated like this and get a title shot.
both fought nobody. stiverne best opponent was chubby dubby and wilders best opponent was sleeping scott, both sh/()tz opponent. but thats not the point. an expert like me sees when somebody can box or not, even when he hasnt fought 1 pro fight. talent is easy toe see for me. wilder is the real deal. expect stiverne to be totaly crushed. nobody has to believe me, but it will happen.
great example. roy jones in his first pro fight looked so great, that he couldve fough the back than p4p king toney and beat him. after only 1 fight, you know why?
because skills, power, athletic ability win fights and not record books or resume. and power, skills and athletic ability can be seen even when a boxer had 1 pro fight.
i dont wanna compare wilder to jones, that would be crazy. all i wanna say is, that wilder is an elite heavyweight, it can easily be seen and tonight it will show for those you dont already know.
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The_Sugarman
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Re: Wilder KO Stiverne
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caldo2025 wrote:Some pretty dumb comments on this one but i'll play. The intrigue surrounding this fight is Wilder. Let's face it, this guy got a title fight for the heavyweight championship of the world without fighting one legitimate contender. That is the crazy part about this fight. But that's not to say he can't do it, right? The truth is, i would love for it to be true. A good looking American kid with talent to save the heavyweight division and bring it back to the limelight. Inspire some young kids to put down the Playstation controller and get in the gym. But this is Wilder's first fight against a legitimate boxer. Don't sleep on Stiverne, he's a good boxer. Heavyweight Champion type talent? No, but i'm very sure that we will truly know where Wilder is at after this fight. Because Stiverne is legit providing he doesn't pull a Michael Spinks in there a la Tyson and take a dive.
Reports from David Haye's camp, Wilder got demolished in sparring sessions with him. Similar reports emerging from other heavyweight contenders that paid Wilder to be a punching bag. Tonight we will see either how good this kid really is or how pathetic boxing is that a guy can be fabricated like this and get a title shot.
In other words great management
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[quote="Chepppaaa"]you heard it first here.
Well we heard it here, but we didn't hear it here first. Wilder is 32(32)-0-0, so predicting Wilder wins again by KO is like predicting a Clinton or Bush will become US president in 2016. Hardly an outlandish prediction.
Of course, it's possible none of these things will happen, which is why we have elections and fights.
Well we heard it here, but we didn't hear it here first. Wilder is 32(32)-0-0, so predicting Wilder wins again by KO is like predicting a Clinton or Bush will become US president in 2016. Hardly an outlandish prediction.
Of course, it's possible none of these things will happen, which is why we have elections and fights.
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dempseyfire
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Re: Wilder KO Stiverne
Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it first here.
i am disappointed that on a boxing forum, were normaly people in here should understand boxing, realy know little. so little, that so many choose a fat out of shape stiverne to win against an a level athletic opponent. just because fat stiverne beat a fat areolo. both guys dont train, both a b level. shame, that a fat guy like this a world title.
but to your luck, you have a boxing expert on this forum who is gonne explain you short how the fight will end up:
wilder waits, unleashes, doesnt land to much, but by round 2 finds his rythm and totaly crushes stiverne inside 5. stiverne will land little and wont handle the athletic ability of wilder. stiverne will stand flat footed, wont be able to move enough because he is fat and wont win 1 single round.
Wilder's athletic build doesn't say anything. Since he's never been in a tough fight; he's never learned how to properly breath and relax when the heat is raised. See David Price vs the soft old Tony Thompson, the adonis-like Mike Williams vs Tim Witherspoon, Morrison vs the tubby Mercer . .even Wlad vs love-handles Brewster years back. I could easily see Wilder gassing out before Stiverne does in a tough fight, six pack and all.
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Stiverne actually looks better than he has in previous fights, imo. Yes, he has a little extra around the middle, but most heavyweights do. He is a very strong guy though. Its Wilder's fight, unless he gets sloppy and stupid.MachoTime wrote:Saw the weigh in photo's. Stiverne looks like a fat blob.
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punchoutsb
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WOW! This is the most far out prediction I've ever seen!
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Stiverne has deffo been at the 2 for ones and the all you can eats, he should look like a little power house to take out Wilder. He looks like he has gone wild at Burger King. If this goes the distance Bernard needs a medic .... or Wilder when the peds wear off. (Some say).
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victor-romeo
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I agree he don't look to be in good shape... really soft in the middle..macaca wrote:Stiverne has deffo been at the 2 for ones and the all you can eats, he should look like a little power house to take out Wilder. He looks like he has gone wild at Burger King. If this goes the distance Bernard needs a medic .... or Wilder when the peds wear off. (Some say).
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dempseyfire wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it first here.
i am disappointed that on a boxing forum, were normaly people in here should understand boxing, realy know little. so little, that so many choose a fat out of shape stiverne to win against an a level athletic opponent. just because fat stiverne beat a fat areolo. both guys dont train, both a b level. shame, that a fat guy like this a world title.
but to your luck, you have a boxing expert on this forum who is gonne explain you short how the fight will end up:
wilder waits, unleashes, doesnt land to much, but by round 2 finds his rythm and totaly crushes stiverne inside 5. stiverne will land little and wont handle the athletic ability of wilder. stiverne will stand flat footed, wont be able to move enough because he is fat and wont win 1 single round.
Wilder's athletic build doesn't say anything. Since he's never been in a tough fight; he's never learned how to properly breath and relax when the heat is raised. See David Price vs the soft old Tony Thompson, the adonis-like Mike Williams vs Tim Witherspoon, Morrison vs the tubby Mercer . .even Wlad vs love-handles Brewster years back. I could easily see Wilder gassing out before Stiverne does in a tough fight, six pack and all.
you made some quality example, i give you that.