SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND TELLING IT LIKE IT IS!!

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ALEX ARIZA SAYS BOB ARUM WILL "CHARLIE BROWN" FANS WITH MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO: "HE'LL PULL THE FOOTBALL AWAY"
By Ben Thompson | January 13, 2015ALEX ARIZA SAYS BOB ARUM WILL


"Believe me, I want the fight to happen, maybe more than anyone, but I'm just waiting here for the football to get pulled away. It's better for me if I'm wrong, but I'm telling you, I think it's all an illusion...Even though Floyd's the only one who's ever made an offer, at the end of the day, they're still going to blame Floyd if the fight doesn't happen. Regardless of what's being written out there, personally, I think Bob is going to make everybody believe that the fight is going to happen and then he's going to Charlie Brown us; he's going to pull the football away and then blame it on Floyd," stated world-class Strength & Conditioning coach Alex Ariza, who shared his thoughts on the latest buzz regarding the potential mega-fight between undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather and 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. Check it out!

BT: Alex, welcome back to the States. We're not even two weeks into the new year and there's already been a lot of changes in boxing, but obviously the biggest news that fans are getting excited about is the possibility of Mayweather vs. Pacquiao finally happening.

AA: I know that Floyd wants this fight with Manny very, very, very badly. He wants this fight more than ever right now. I haven't known him that long, but I don't think I've ever heard him talk about wanting to fight anybody this much. He usually doesn't care who he fights. It could be this guy or that guy, but he really wants to fight Manny.

BT: With all the rumors about negotiations allegedly progressing, are you at least optimistic that the fight might actually happen this time?

AA: Look, of course I know and I'm privy to how one side [Team Pacquiao] works. And now I know a little about the other side [Team Mayweather] and how badly they want the fight. But I'm just going off of what I've known over the last four years. No, I'm not optimistic [about Mayweather vs. Pacquiao happening]. I know Bob [Arum] and I know that he's the one standing in the way of this, and that's why, for me, this fight isn't going to happen. Now is no different than the last five years; the determining factor on whether or not this fight is going to happen lies with Bob.

BT: One report claimed that the venue and drug testing has already been agreed to and some are speculating that the fight is close to being signed. With Michael Koncz saying that they spoke to Mayweather's people...

AA: (Cutting in) Michael Koncz said that he's talking to Mayweather's people? What people is he talking about? Listen, Mayweather's people consist of two people: Mayweather and Al Haymon. If he can't name those two people, then he's not talking to people. That's just another reason why I'm disillusioned about the chances of this fight happening. Professionals don't speak publicly on negotiations. Koncz and Bob have been talking nonsense, giving bread crumbs to a bunch of fornicating starving pigeons who want to write anything. They're at Central Park with a bunch of fornicating starving pigeons with press credentials around their necks just throwing them bread crumbs, and they're eating that shit up, pecking each other death to write something. Believe me, I want the fight to happen, maybe more than anyone, but I'm just waiting here for the football to get pulled away. It's better for me if I'm wrong, but I'm telling you, I think it's all an illusion. You get these reporters that are fornicating drinking that shit up as if they've been in the desert for six months; they're drinking it up, they're putting it out there, it looks all good, and then in the end, Bob Arum will Charlie Brown us. I just don't get all worked up over any of that shit anymore. They agreed to the venue? Big deal! Where else are they going to have that fight? They agreed to drug testing? Duh! They've got no choice. I just don't think those reports are a big deal at all.

BT: Honestly, at first, I kind of got that same feeling as well when Arum suggested that it would be disrespectful to Mexican fans if the fight took place on May 2, during Cinco de Mayo weekend. But then...

AA: (Cutting in) How is that disrespectful? Talk about making excuses. So you want to stop the biggest fight in the history of the sport possibly because you're afraid of offending Mexican fans, who actually want to see the fight too? He's got no problems ripping them off and charging Julio [Cesar Chavez Jr.] 50% of everything he makes, or not paying the guy's taxes for six years. That's not disrespectful? He didn't mind tricking Julio into signing extensions by pretending that it's a visa. That's not disrespectful? It's disrespectful to put the biggest fight in boxing history on May 2nd, but let me rip off the prince of Mexico. Let me put him on the shelf for a year, or let me put Mikey Garcia on the shelf for a year. That's not disrespectful to the Mexicans? Chavez wants to fight Froch on the 28th of March, but Bob is telling the whole world that he's not, and that's not disrespectful? He's trying to prevent this dude from earning a living and feeding his family, but that's not disrespectful? Come on, Ben.

BT: True. That said, nobody from Team Mayweather is commenting on or disputing any of the reports, so that's probably why so many people are getting hopeful that the fight will finally get made this time.

AA: Nobody on this side needs to comment because Floyd has done everything with actions. The very first time they tried to negotiate the fight, it was Floyd who initiated that dialogue. Floyd has made offers. Whether you agree or disagree with the offer, the fact is Floyd is at least taking action and offering. Manny, all he's doing is talking. He hasn't done anything with actions. It's very easy to jump in front of a group of reporters and say, "Yeah, I want the fight." Talk is cheap. If you want this fight to happen, act like you want this fight to happen. There's been no consistency on that side. To sit there and turn offer after offer down, and then turn around and say you'll fight for free and you'll do it for charity, to me, that doesn't show somebody who really wants to fight somebody. How realistic is that? You've just taken the seriousness out of the negotiation when you say you'll fight for free. I mean seriously, at that point, you lose me. When you say that you'll fight for free and let's do it for charity, do you really want me to take you seriously? It begs the question, are you taking this seriously? You shouldn't be joking about fighting for free, seriously, because all you do is you make a joke of it. When Stephen Espinoza says that they'll offer you $40 million and 35% of pay-per-view, and a week later you turn down the offer and say you'll take less money and you'll fight for free, you've made the whole thing trivial. You've made the whole negotiations just seem trivial, so at that point, it doesn't become serious anymore, or it tells me you're not taking it serious. I mean, for me, actions speak louder than words. Manny's just talking to the public and his publicist is tweeting and they're giving you guys some crumbs to write about and get some clicks, but that's about it. I mean, come on, everybody knows Manny doesn't know what fornicating hash tags are. Manny doesn't tweet or keep up with hash tagging or stuff like that. Having a publicist tweet a couple of things to get some headlines, you're not fooling anybody with that. It just makes us not want to say anything because he's clearly not taking this serious. Behind the scenes, he's not showing any of us that he wants the fight.

Manny needs to stand up and take control of his shit. At the end of the day, Manny's just a guy who's told when to fight, who to fight, and how much to fight, period! Don't be afraid to do something because you're scared you might get in trouble with Bob. When you're vague, to me, that means that you're not serious or that you're afraid to say something. Seriously Ben, if he's okay with a 60/40 split or whatever, then come out and say, "I accept that offer and Bob's got 30 days to close that deal or I'll go to the commission or I'll do whatever I have to do." Do something! Take some sort of serious action that's going to force Bob to get you what you want. This is the same thing that I've said over the last four years. Even though Floyd's the only one who's ever made an offer, at the end of the day, they're still going to blame Floyd if the fight doesn't happen. Regardless of what's being written out there, personally, I think Bob is going to make everybody believe that the fight is going to happen and then he's going to Charlie Brown us; he's going to pull the football away and then blame it on Floyd.

I can just hear all the crying of MP's fans now.
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Pretty much sums it up from a guy that has known what has happened throughout.
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Badhusker wrote:Pretty much sums it up from a guy that has known what has happened throughout.
The truth hurts which is why the PacTURDS avoided this thread like the plague.
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Haha

I hope your posts are joking

It's not like Alex is disgruntled in the least {sarcasm}

I wouldn't take anything he said for the truth on the matter
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SURE OF COURSE MAYWEATHER HAS RECENTLY OFFERED ARIZA WORK ON THE LAST ACCESS :lol: :lol: :lol:

OF COURSE ARIZA IS GOING TO BACK FLOYD WHO IS PAYING THE GUY?

MAYWEATHER......

ARIZA IS APART OR GOING TO BE APART OF TMT SO IT MAKES SENSE. SO LET ARIZA KEEP SCORING HIS LITTLE BROWNIE POINTS WITH

MAYWEATHER TYPICAL FANBOY.

WE ALL KNOW WHO IS REALLY PUSHING THE FIGHT EVEN THE BLACK FOLKS ARE SAYING THAT MAYWEATHER IS SCARED OF MANNY,

EVEN THAT FOOTLOCKER PROMO MANNY BASICALLY WENT BALLS TO THE WALLS MARKETING HIS DESIRE TO CHALLENGE FLOYD...

MANNY AND ARUM FOR ME, AT LEAST WHAT I AM SEEING ARE THE AGGRESSORS!!!!

LAST ACCESS FLOYD HOLLERED OUT "TELL ARIZA HE CAN COME WORK FOR ME! COME TO TALK TO ME!" :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes:

SO WHY WOULD ARIZA BACK FLOYD EVEN THOUGH ITS BS? YEAH :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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WELL WHO LOVES THE SENTENCE, TO ME TO ME TO ME TO ME QUESTION MR ARIZA WHO'S TEAM YOU WITH THESE DAY'S TALK ABOUT RUN WITH THE WOLVE'S AND HUNT WITH THE HOUND'S
I CANNOT STAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU............................................ :verysad:
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When Ariza spit the facts you all attack and claim he's disgruntled when the fact of the matter is why would he be disgruntled if Mayweather is paying him more than Manny has ever been able to??

Like I said, the truth hurts!!
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When Ariza spit the facts you all attack and claim he's disgruntled when the fact of the matter is why would he be disgruntled if Mayweather is paying him more than Manny has ever been able to??

Like I said, the truth hurts!!
That must be it

It couldn't be the fact you're completely ignorant when it's obvious someone has an agenda against a person

Why don't you go back to drawing your conclusions on the sidewalk at recess, I'm sure the other 3rd graders will buy into your logic
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Any minute someone is going to post a picture of a spicy Mexican dish.
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Ariza is a disgusting human being, but what do you expect from someone who kicked an old man with parkinsons
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FloydtheDuck wrote:
That must be it It couldn't be the fact you're completely ignorant when it's obvious someone has an agenda against a person

Why don't you go back to drawing your conclusions on the sidewalk at recess, I'm sure the other 3rd graders will buy into your logic
If he has an "agenda" then please tell us what it is? Why can't it just be he's telling the truth and you don't like it?
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Rodian wrote:Ariza is a disgusting human being, but what do you expect from someone who kicked an old man with parkinsons
An old man who runs his mouth too damn much and tries to hide behind his Parkinsons.
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KBB wrote:
Rodian wrote:Ariza is a disgusting human being, but what do you expect from someone who kicked an old man with parkinsons
An old man who runs his mouth too damn much and tries to hide behind his Parkinsons.
I'm betting your bedroom puts Ray Finkle's to shame.

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Ariza speaks the truth.. It's a known fact that Pactards and Floyd detractors aren't too high on the facts of the matter. Never have been, never will be. It doesn't matter what happens, these haters are going to twist it to fit their own agenda rather than accepting the facts that Pacquiao is a puppet and too much of a bitch to stand up to Bob.
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NateJR wrote:Ariza speaks the truth.. It's a known fact that Pactards and Floyd detractors aren't too high on the facts of the matter. Never have been, never will be. It doesn't matter what happens, these haters are going to twist it to fit their own agenda rather than accepting the facts that Pacquiao is a puppet and too much of a bitch to stand up to Bob.
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NateJR wrote:Ariza speaks the truth.. It's a known fact that Pactards and Floyd detractors aren't too high on the facts of the matter. Never have been, never will be. It doesn't matter what happens, these haters are going to twist it to fit their own agenda rather than accepting the facts that Pacquiao is a puppet and too much of a bitch to stand up to Bob.
They can't handle the truth!!

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NateJR wrote:Ariza speaks the truth.. It's a known fact that Pactards and Floyd detractors aren't too high on the facts of the matter. Never have been, never will be. It doesn't matter what happens, these haters are going to twist it to fit their own agenda rather than accepting the facts that Pacquiao is a puppet and too much of a bitch to stand up to Bob.
same as Floyd and his fans do..accused Pac of PEDs with no evidence. If Ariza is a truth teller, then why doesnt he come out and say Pac was juicing. He, afterall was his former trainer. Unless of course you believe him to be withholding information, which contradicts your dumbass belief that Ariza is all about "the facts". A lie of omission is still a lie.

You Pac haters are an embarrassment lol
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Rodian wrote:
NateJR wrote:Ariza speaks the truth.. It's a known fact that Pactards and Floyd detractors aren't too high on the facts of the matter. Never have been, never will be. It doesn't matter what happens, these haters are going to twist it to fit their own agenda rather than accepting the facts that Pacquiao is a puppet and too much of a bitch to stand up to Bob.
same as Floyd and his fans do..accused Pac of PEDs with no evidence. If Ariza is a truth teller, then why doesnt he come out and say Pac was juicing. He, afterall was his former trainer. Unless of course you believe him to be withholding information, which contradicts your dumbass belief that Ariza is all about "the facts". A lie of omission is still a lie.

You Pac haters are an embarrassment lol
People don't hate Pac, they hate his dumb ass fans like you especially.
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Ariza is a sellout, probably broke, now bought and paid for by Floyd/Haymon. Ariza will say anything to discredit Pacquiao and protect the Fraud Floydweather.
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Everybody in the world knows everyone is ready to go, but Floyd and Haymon won't sign the contract.
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How about instead of just saying Ariza is disgruntled , point out what part of what he said was false?
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"I know that Floyd wants this fight with Manny very, very, very badly. He wants this fight more than ever right now. I haven't known him that long, but I don't think I've ever heard him talk about wanting to fight anybody this much. He usually doesn't care who he fights. It could be this guy or that guy, but he really wants to fight Manny."

please. just: please.

and floyd doesn't care whom he fights? the
same floyd that carefully hand picks fights
finally, after he has become his own boss?

had more respect for ariza before i read that.
i tell you this: floyd wanting it, it happens
next tuesday.
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man wrote: i tell you this: floyd wanting it, it happens
next tuesday.
:TU:

Exactly ... and if Pac's team was an obstacle, Floyd would be talking about them refusing to do random testing, certain gloves, ring size, etc.
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Ariza is infected with the Arum itch syndrome..Arum he's a pesky little bugger...
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It sounds like the main obstacle now is no agreement yet between tv networks
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