Bermane Stiverne in hospital

[Freedom2013]

Here's a link to a yahoo article that states it's from dehydration, but I think it has more to do with all the flush punches he took from Deontay Wilder.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/be ... 36223.html

[eastezrider]

All the pre-fight talk from Stiverne was about how "loose" he was and calm and ready and well prepared... afterwards not so much... "didn't feel good", dehydrated, etc... I think Wilder was just much quicker than anticipated, hence Stiverne's inability to "cut off the ring" as everyone was saying that he should be doing (easier said than done)... and Wilder did have actual boxing skills, and was in shape to go more than 4...

[Freedom2013]

Unlike all these "medical professionals" that use this forum that are dismissive about Bermane's dehydration issue... all I can say, is that I wish him a speedy recovery!

Stiverne lost, he's in hospital and as far as I can tell, his team aren't blaming the defeat on his health issues.

Why would he be dehydrated? He didn't need to make a weight.

Sometimes when a fighter takes a sustained beating from a strong puncher, he is hospitalized afterwards. Remember Shannon Briggs after taking a sustained beating from Vitali?

Stiverne took a lot of flush punches, round after round.

[palooka]

I hope he recovers well, he did take some very heavy punches and I think it made him reluctant to press too much, I imagine the plan was to get through the first 4 rounds and pressure a tired Wilder; I reckon the punches he took in the first 4 rounds took a fair bit out of him and Wilder was content to engage when Stiverne pressed. Wilder we would be a nightmare for a shorter boxer to fight. I don't think he'll be in a rush to box Wlad who is far more polished. Wilder v Povetkin would be a decent bout.

[man]

give the guy a break. fought a tough fight and
is in for observation. i for one am totally fine with
whatever reasons he brings up. it ain't easy for
a professional heavyweight to deal with being
beaten up.

[keirw]

I'm sure exhaustion played a part in his hospitalization, he put in a tough shift Saturday night.
Hope he is well soon

[The Great John L]

[quote="Freedom2013Why would he be dehydrated? He didn't need to make a weight.[/quote]

Do you think that "making weight" is the only way an athlete can become dehydrated?

[Freedom2013]

Do you think that "making weight" is the only way an athlete can become dehydrated?

No, but it's the most likely reason for a boxer who is suffering from severe dehydration resulting in hospitalization.

I'm sure exhaustion played a part in his hospitalization, he put in a tough shift Saturday night.

Yes, he sure did.

[eastezrider]

Unlike all these "medical professionals" that use this forum that are dismissive about Bermane's dehydration issue... all I can say, is that I wish him a speedy recovery!

Stiverne lost, he's in hospital and as far as I can tell, his team aren't blaming the defeat on his health issues.

Not "dismissive" even a little bit per Bermane's dehydration issue, and I too wish him a full recovery. I just thot it was a bit "odd" for him to feel so good pre-fight, and have some issues afterwards... Cor's in a previous life I met many competetors, mostly in Track and Field, that felt good pre-race, but not so much afterwards. I guess my point was more "Sun Tzu" than "Medical Professional" in regards to underestimating the opponent/task at hand. Given Don King's comments in Kevin Iole's article, they will be looking for a rematch and will be better prepared. Which is what I would expect, (Stiverne to be better prepared). Again my comments were only in the context of preperation, not to belittle or cast dispersions on Bermane Stiverne. He's a very good fighter and did the best he could; sometimes the opponent is underestimated, and is actually quicker than expected. Happens all the time. Oregon was quicker and better than Florida State, but then Ohio State was able to deal with the quickness and skills of Mareotta and win the game... it happens... and I was just making an observation, not a diagnosis...

Certainly I look forward to your updated list of Wilder's previous opponents and the dismissive descriptions contained therein pertaining to Bermane.

[The Great John L]

Do you think that "making weight" is the only way an athlete can become dehydrated?

No, but it's the most likely reason for a boxer who is suffering from severe dehydration resulting in hospitalization.

Possibly in today’s world of day before weigh-in, but historically dehydration was caused by the water and mineral loss during the fight. And for a HW that seems very likely, especially given the amount of effort expended during the fight by a very large man.

I do agree that he took a very good beating as well, and it's possible there may be other factors for which we may never be aware.

[greg]

...whatever the reason, wish him speedy recovery...

[Badhusker]

Common sense tells you that he went to the hospital as a precautionary measure probably suspecting a concussion. Getting hit by Wilder a couple of hundred times will do that. Nothing to be ashamed of. Dehydration? Come on, man?! Sure the fatter guys seem to sweat more, but I really doubt if that is it, imo.

I can remember when both Ali and Fraizier went to the hospital after their first fight. Ali had a short stay but they said Frazier almost died there from the punishment he took. They might have went after all their fights. Good precautionary measure for guys that get in wars. Concussions are treated seriously these days.

[Lackeos]

Every time I go to Vegas, I get severely dehydrated. Bad headaches, flu-like symptoms, general pain everywhere, feels like sludge in your veins, etc.. Given that Bermane rarely fights in Vegas, and given that heavyweight boxers in general don't often venture to Vegas, I can see this being a realistic problem that we rarely witness just because usually we don't see 240-pound guys going 12 rounds in a desert. We've seen Mayweather fight in Vegas a lot, but he's a welterweight, and he's had like 19 years to learn the importance of hydrating in Vegas. Bermane probably didn't acknowledge how crucial it was to drink insane amounts of fluids in Vegas. If Bermane were to ever fight in Vegas again, I'd recommend that he superhydrate like JCC Jr. does and spend as much of his Vegas trip as possible indoors with a humidifier. To be fair, though, Bermane has fought in Vegas a few times, but nothing more than a 7-round gimme against Jerry Butler, so this theory is kind of iffy.

[Badhusker]

Every time I go to Vegas, I get severely dehydrated. Bad headaches, flu-like symptoms, general pain everywhere, feels like sludge in your veins, etc.. Given that Bermane rarely fights in Vegas, and given that heavyweight boxers in general don't often venture to Vegas, I can see this being a realistic problem that we rarely witness just because usually we don't see 240-pound guys going 12 rounds in a desert. We've seen Mayweather fight in Vegas a lot, but he's a welterweight, and he's had like 19 years to learn the importance of hydrating in Vegas. Bermane probably didn't acknowledge how crucial it was to drink insane amounts of fluids in Vegas. If Bermane were to ever fight in Vegas again, I'd recommend that he superhydrate like JCC Jr. does and spend as much of his Vegas trip as possible indoors with a humidifier. To be fair, though, Bermane has fought in Vegas a few times, but nothing more than a 7-round gimme against Jerry Butler, so this theory is kind of iffy.

I am guessing maybe the air conditioning was not working then? Its not like they fought out in the hot sun in the middle of the desert. Ali/Foreman - the rumble in the jungle - now that was hot. Dehydrated so bad you have to go to the hospital? wtf

[DaveyMac]

Every time I go to Vegas, I get severely dehydrated. Bad headaches, flu-like symptoms, general pain everywhere, feels like sludge in your veins, etc.. Given that Bermane rarely fights in Vegas, and given that heavyweight boxers in general don't often venture to Vegas, I can see this being a realistic problem that we rarely witness just because usually we don't see 240-pound guys going 12 rounds in a desert. We've seen Mayweather fight in Vegas a lot, but he's a welterweight, and he's had like 19 years to learn the importance of hydrating in Vegas. Bermane probably didn't acknowledge how crucial it was to drink insane amounts of fluids in Vegas. If Bermane were to ever fight in Vegas again, I'd recommend that he superhydrate like JCC Jr. does and spend as much of his Vegas trip as possible indoors with a humidifier. To be fair, though, Bermane has fought in Vegas a few times, but nothing more than a 7-round gimme against Jerry Butler, so this theory is kind of iffy.

I'm pretty sure Bermane LIVES in Vegas now.

[Lackeos]

Every time I go to Vegas, I get severely dehydrated. Bad headaches, flu-like symptoms, general pain everywhere, feels like sludge in your veins, etc.. Given that Bermane rarely fights in Vegas, and given that heavyweight boxers in general don't often venture to Vegas, I can see this being a realistic problem that we rarely witness just because usually we don't see 240-pound guys going 12 rounds in a desert. We've seen Mayweather fight in Vegas a lot, but he's a welterweight, and he's had like 19 years to learn the importance of hydrating in Vegas. Bermane probably didn't acknowledge how crucial it was to drink insane amounts of fluids in Vegas. If Bermane were to ever fight in Vegas again, I'd recommend that he superhydrate like JCC Jr. does and spend as much of his Vegas trip as possible indoors with a humidifier. To be fair, though, Bermane has fought in Vegas a few times, but nothing more than a 7-round gimme against Jerry Butler, so this theory is kind of iffy.

I am guessing maybe the air conditioning was not working then? Its not like they fought out in the hot sun in the middle of the desert. Ali/Foreman - the rumble in the jungle - now that was hot. Dehydrated so bad you have to go to the hospital? wtf

He was probably at the hospital anyway because his whole situation was f*cked-up and the hospital was like "Yeah, you're probably dehydrated. We're a Vegas hospital, and 90% of the time, anyone who comes in here is severely dehydrated. Let's check your blood. Yep, it's like red syrup, just as I thought. Your blood's like red velvet cake batter."

[ArmaanCFC]

Why would a professional boxer be hospitalized due to dehydration? The irony is too much

[Badhusker]

Why would a professional boxer be hospitalized due to dehydration? The irony is too much

I think if Stiverne just bobbed for apples in a bucket of ice water for a day and drink a gallon of Gatorade or two he will be fine. His head is probably swelled up the size of a beach ball from the big shots he took to the head. That kind of punishment would have probably killed the average person.

Seriously though, I do wish him a speedy recovery. I look forward to him vs some top heavy weights in the near future. At 35 he can't sit on the shelf too long.

[hhaehre]

Why would a professional boxer be hospitalized due to dehydration? The irony is too much

More likely to be from sheer exhaustion. Stiverne couldn't compete because he wasn't in shape to go hard for 12 rounds like Wilder was and did. Stiverne is at least 20 pounds overweight. It amazes me to see a top professional athlete come in to a title fight overweight but outside Wlad and Wilder it's the norm these days.

[493dart]

Why would a professional boxer be hospitalized due to dehydration? The irony is too much

More likely to be from sheer exhaustion. Stiverne couldn't compete because he wasn't in shape to go hard for 12 rounds like Wilder was and did. Stiverne is at least 20 pounds overweight. It amazes me to see a top professional athlete come in to a title fight overweight but outside Wlad and Wilder it's the norm these days.

he was at 239---same weight as many previous bouts. so hes been 20 lbs overweight this whole time ? Looked good against arreolla....

he was in the hospital for the same reason Briggs was in there..... A brutal beating to the noggin .

[hhaehre]

he was at 239---same weight as many previous bouts. so hes been 20 lbs overweight this whole time ? Looked good against arreolla....

Yes, he has been overweight the whole time. Looking good against another fat body does not change that.

[eastezrider]

Bermane is ok... Anyone else intrested in a Bermane Stiverne vs Dereck Chisora fight?

[palooka]

I'm glad he's OK, he can beat a lot of men in the rankings and with the right opposition he'll look good.

[Freedom2013]

I'm glad he's OK, he can beat a lot of men in the rankings and with the right opposition he'll look good.

Problem is, Don King will likely keep him inactive for a couple of years now. :(

[Badhusker]

I read an article, (think it was on Saddowboxing?) about Stiverne about his fight with Wilder. He apologized for not making the post fight press conference. Him and his team went on to congratulate Wilder, and said they didn't want to take anything away from Wilder's win, but.............Stiverne was only at 15% for the fight, being SO dehydrated. Again, they didn't mean in any way, shape, or form to take anything away from Wilder, but again (they said this about 5 times) Bermane was only at 15%.

Stiverne has lived the last 10 years in Vegas. I guess in a few more years he will adjust to the heat there.