IT APPEARS THAT IT'S OFFICIAL!! THE SUPERFIGHT IS OFF??

[ReggieDiggs]

A properly motivated individual would go all the way through the hundreds, perhaps thousands of #MayweatherPacquiao posts and find the "original"... but, I'm barely able to get though dozen on the first page...

anywho... thot this was interesting, if you've seen it please feel free to ignore...

Showtime's Espinoza muddling the issue for "Pacquiao-Mayweather"

Espinoza stated: “Floyd isn’t holding anything up… There is no contract that is awaiting Floyd’s signature… there’s no agreement or closed deal or contract or anybody signing off on anything.”

Stephan muddling things? lol or I need to read up on the definition of muddling. They spun the f#ck outta that article title. The article I read said basically that Bob was lying (not surprising) & he implied Bob didn't really wanna make the fight. Holy sh!t maybe there are websites bought & paid for by promoters.

[ikorolev]

How long will the network motherf4ckers hold the contract making ??? They can easily get the boxers to a point when they don't want to wait any longer, so everybody loses money. Don't they realize that ?

Also, why don't Floyd, Manny/Arum, etc. clearly say that they are waiting for networks to figure things out instead of pointing fingers at each other ?

[punchoutsb]

A properly motivated individual would go all the way through the hundreds, perhaps thousands of #MayweatherPacquiao posts and find the "original"... but, I'm barely able to get though dozen on the first page...

anywho... thot this was interesting, if you've seen it please feel free to ignore...

Showtime's Espinoza muddling the issue for "Pacquiao-Mayweather"

Espinoza stated: “Floyd isn’t holding anything up… There is no contract that is awaiting Floyd’s signature… there’s no agreement or closed deal or contract or anybody signing off on anything.”

Stephan muddling things? lol or I need to read up on the definition of muddling. They spun the f#ck outta that article title. The article I read said basically that Bob was lying (not surprising) & he implied Bob didn't really wanna make the fight. Holy sh!t maybe there are websites bought & paid for by promoters.

The title is technically correct. Most media sources have painted Floyd as the last piece of the puzzle, while Espinoza muddles that by stating that it's Bob, thereby confusing the poor misguided readers who think Floyd is the one at fault for everything.

[Badhusker]

How long will the network motherf4ckers hold the contract making ??? They can easily get the boxers to a point when they don't want to wait any longer, so everybody loses money. Don't they realize that ?

Also, why don't Floyd, Manny/Arum, etc. clearly say that they are waiting for networks to figure things out instead of pointing fingers at each other ?

Well, the way I understood it from the beginning is that Floyd, Manny, etc. were supposed to have some sort of gag order to keep the negotiations between their teams and networks, and not in main stream media. If true, I guess both sides have violated that already.
The only thing I can figure is that they will allow everyone else to pull their hair out waiting, then let Floyd announce the fight during the Super Bowl. This of course will burn Arum, and he might want to pull out a day or two before. As we have learned, deadlines don't apply to Mayweather, and Arum will pull out of the fight.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/01/ste ... ore-187353

[KBB]

This is so simple, I can't understand why people don't see it; Bob Arum is doing exactly what he did the first time they tried to negotiate this fight and it is right on point with what Ariza stated "Bob Arum doesn't want this fight no matter what he says".

The same lies are being told now that were being told then, "Mayweather hasn't signed the contract" "We Agreed To Everything Already" "we're waiting on Floyd" and the stupid Pacquiao fans just simply swallow it without a question because it justifies their need to make Manny appear superior and Floyd appear afraid of him.

Like I said, it appears that the superfight is off again because once again we have Arum and Manny lying and deceiving the public, sure I believe Bob went through some of the procedures of trying to get it done but once this thing came down to the bottom line he knew he could simply back out and point the finger at Mayweather and nearly everyone would believe them because it has been proven that their lies work and the public will simply go on fingering Floyd as the culprit as to why this fight didn't get done.

Espinoza is telling the truth, what reason would a Network Guy have to lie about anything, they don't get in the ring, they simply put it on tv for all to see.

[KBB]

Espinoza stated: “Floyd isn’t holding anything up… There is no contract that is awaiting Floyd’s signature… there’s no agreement or closed deal or contract or anybody signing off on anything.”

I hadn't seen it but thanks for sharing, I feel that Espinoza is honest on this because we've seen the same old show from the Ventriloquist Arum and how he sends his Dummy Manny out to simply repeat whatever he says.

Floyd has been basically quiet about this because maybe he is just waiting for the right moment or maybe he has been in silent negotiations with Miguel Cotto especially since there wasn't any talk about Cotto and Canelo and even moreso once Saul signed to fight Kirkland and he knew Arum wasn't going to go through with the fight no matter what was agreed to.

The more anyone looks at this, the more logical it appears that Ariza was being honest in what he stated about Arum, hate Alex Ariza all you want and try to destroy his credibility all you want but the fact of the matter is; everything he stated is the truth about Arum.

I believe Manny wants the fight, I believe Floyd wants it; Arum has been the problem all along.

Somebody please shoot this mother*cker.

[Tony1244]

The only Super Fights I can think of right now are Fury vs. Wlad, or Fury vs. Wilder or Wilder vs Wlad. Perhaps GGG vs Mayweather if they could agree on a division or weight.


I like Manny. But Manny has been stopped relatively recently and lost a fight or 2. Super Fights are for the undefeated or at least the recently undefeated.

[IKSRTFO]

The only Super Fights I can think of right now are Fury vs. Wlad, or Fury vs. Wilder or Wilder vs Wlad. Perhaps GGG vs Mayweather if they could agree on a division or weight.


I like Manny. But Manny has been stopped relatively recently and lost a fight or 2. Super Fights are for the undefeated or at least the recently undefeated.

How on earth was Hagler Hearns a superfight?

[Tony1244]

The only Super Fights I can think of right now are Fury vs. Wlad, or Fury vs. Wilder or Wilder vs Wlad. Perhaps GGG vs Mayweather if they could agree on a division or weight.


I like Manny. But Manny has been stopped relatively recently and lost a fight or 2. Super Fights are for the undefeated or at least the recently undefeated.

How on earth was Hagler Hearns a superfight?

>>>IKSRTFO


Hagler-Hearns wasn't as big of a superfight as Leonard-Hearns 1. But if I remember correctly, Hearns' only loss at the time was to SRL in a fight he was winning and Hagler at that time hadn't dropped a decision in very many years.

[IKSRTFO]

The only Super Fights I can think of right now are Fury vs. Wlad, or Fury vs. Wilder or Wilder vs Wlad. Perhaps GGG vs Mayweather if they could agree on a division or weight.


I like Manny. But Manny has been stopped relatively recently and lost a fight or 2. Super Fights are for the undefeated or at least the recently undefeated.

How on earth was Hagler Hearns a superfight?

>>>IKSRTFO


Hagler-Hearns wasn't as big of a superfight as Leonard-Hearns 1. But if I remember correctly, Hearns' only loss at the time was to SRL in a fight he was winning and Hagler at that time hadn't dropped a decision in very many years.

De La Hoya Mayweather? De La Hoya was 2-2 in his last 4 fights preceding it. How on earth was this a superfight?

[tiny_acres]

I never considered Delahoya- Mayweather to be a super fight. And only because of Oscars 2-2 record coming into the fight.

[Ricky_]

"It's Official!!" uhm, no it's not. An idiot like you speculating is the opposite of speculating in fact.

Pacquiao was visiting the UK, had dinner with the royal family, etc. Khan muscled his way into the limelight of his tour, cause that's what Khan does.

[man]

So, why are you making such a big deal about Manny and Khan talking to each other ???

I'm not.

I can't believe that people cannot see what Ariza was stating has been true all along, the PacTURDS won't accept nor understand that they've been bamboozled by Bobfather ....AGAIN.

Bob Arum has been on every show he can be on and has even had Manny touring and speaking (but notice, not Roach because he slips up and tells the truth not knowing he's doing his own fighter in at the same time) but they have been doing the same thing that they've always done since back in 2010 when they went public (even though there has supposedly been a "hush order" put out on this fight negotiations) and started claiming "They Agreed to All the Terms" and that "We Signed The Contract" and "We Gave Mayweather a Deadline"!

If any of that sounds eerily familiar it's because it is the same story from 2010 all over again as Arum has made excuse after excuse after excuse in order to make their Pacquiao faithful (or Pacquiao Foolish) believe that it is Floyd's fault that this fight isn't happening.

Bob's Excuses are as follows:

Tell Manny to state publicly that
he's afraid of needles
Having blood drawn weakens him
he needs 6 months for a cut to heal
he needs an additional 17 thousand seats for an outside stadium
can't fight on this date because it is disrespectful to Mexicans (in reference to Cinco de Mayo)
When Floyd was supposed to go to jail they wanted the fight but when the judge allowed Mayweather the delayed sentence they switched and said they couldn't make that date

Why Pacquiao fans cannot see this man's obvious deception is beyond me. There are hundreds of other excuses all which can be confirmed with links that explains how often he has made Manny duck this fight but then they flip it and blame Mayweather.

dear, you would looove david icke.

[man]

i am a fan of both fighters, i really am. but
knowing all their history the thought that
manny would duck anybody or that his
promoter would turn away a sh!tload of
money just like that, seems so utterly,
utterly unlikely and that floyd, who found
reasons before not to take that fight, seems
sooo in line with all his career management.

some things that look simple, just are simple.

[KBB]

I'm not.

I can't believe that people cannot see what Ariza was stating has been true all along, the PacTURDS won't accept nor understand that they've been bamboozled by Bobfather ....AGAIN.

Bob Arum has been on every show he can be on and has even had Manny touring and speaking (but notice, not Roach because he slips up and tells the truth not knowing he's doing his own fighter in at the same time) but they have been doing the same thing that they've always done since back in 2010 when they went public (even though there has supposedly been a "hush order" put out on this fight negotiations) and started claiming "They Agreed to All the Terms" and that "We Signed The Contract" and "We Gave Mayweather a Deadline"!

If any of that sounds eerily familiar it's because it is the same story from 2010 all over again as Arum has made excuse after excuse after excuse in order to make their Pacquiao faithful (or Pacquiao Foolish) believe that it is Floyd's fault that this fight isn't happening.

Bob's Excuses are as follows:

Tell Manny to state publicly that
he's afraid of needles
Having blood drawn weakens him
he needs 6 months for a cut to heal
he needs an additional 17 thousand seats for an outside stadium
can't fight on this date because it is disrespectful to Mexicans (in reference to Cinco de Mayo)
When Floyd was supposed to go to jail they wanted the fight but when the judge allowed Mayweather the delayed sentence they switched and said they couldn't make that date

Why Pacquiao fans cannot see this man's obvious deception is beyond me. There are hundreds of other excuses all which can be confirmed with links that explains how often he has made Manny duck this fight but then they flip it and blame Mayweather.

dear, you would looove david icke.

I know him and I think he's as much an idiot as you. What part of this post do you have a problem with? Everything I've stated has links that carry the facts of what Arum has done then and it is exactly as what he's doing now.

Why do you have a problem with me stating the obvious? Are you such a dumb ass that you'd defend Bob Arum?

Wow, you sure are a sensitive little girl.

[KBB]

Manny's main nut scrubber came out against the BS that Arum and Pacquiao has been spilling to the media:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/statu ... 1070844928

[Rodian]

Manny's main nut scrubber came out against the BS that Arum and Pacquiao has been spilling to the media:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/statu ... 1070844928

Pac is doing the potential fight a huge favor by being agreeable and easy to deal with. Unlike Floyd who is bringing up Pac's PPV numbers in interviews and blaming Bob Arum for some undisclosed reason

Pacquiao should be praised by all fans, both Mayweather and Pacquiao fans alike.

[tiny_acres]

Manny's main nut scrubber came out against the BS that Arum and Pacquiao has been spilling to the media:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/statu ... 1070844928

Pac is doing the potential fight a huge favor by being agreeable and easy to deal with. Unlike Floyd who is bringing up Pac's PPV numbers in interviews and blaming Bob Arum for some undisclosed reason

Pacquiao should be praised by all fans, both Mayweather and Pacquiao fans alike.

Wipe your chin.That Pac juice is running down it

[KBB]

Manny's main nut scrubber came out against the BS that Arum and Pacquiao has been spilling to the media:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/statu ... 1070844928

Pac is doing the potential fight a huge favor by being agreeable and easy to deal with. Unlike Floyd who is bringing up Pac's PPV numbers in interviews and blaming Bob Arum for some undisclosed reason

Pacquiao should be praised by all fans, both Mayweather and Pacquiao fans alike.

This shows how stupid you are and how little you understand of how the "BUSINESS" of boxing is done!! PPV numbers are the biggest part of the business side of boxing when determining who will get what amount in terms of pay, why can't a Simpleton like yourself understand this?

Nevermind answering the question because it is rhetorical! Manny and Floyd have both agreed to the terms but for some odd reason despite being told here and in the media you are unable to fathom that there is NO CONTRACT and therefore Manny hasn't signed jack regardless of all the lies Arum and himself continue to tell idiots such as yourself.

[KBB]

Manny's main nut scrubber came out against the BS that Arum and Pacquiao has been spilling to the media:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/statu ... 1070844928

Pac is doing the potential fight a huge favor by being agreeable and easy to deal with. Unlike Floyd who is bringing up Pac's PPV numbers in interviews and blaming Bob Arum for some undisclosed reason

Pacquiao should be praised by all fans, both Mayweather and Pacquiao fans alike.

Wipe your chin.That Pac juice is running down it

[Tony1244]

Hagler-Hearns wasn't as big of a superfight as Leonard-Hearns 1. But if I remember correctly, Hearns' only loss at the time was to SRL in a fight he was winning and Hagler at that time hadn't dropped a decision in very many years.[/quote]


De La Hoya Mayweather? De La Hoya was 2-2 in his last 4 fights preceding it. How on earth was this a superfight?[/quote]

But De La Hoya's 2 losses were very close fights.

[ikorolev]

Floyd and Manny met and talked ???

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowi ... lly-fight/?

[ikorolev]

They f4cking did !

[hoagylt]

No one is surprised that Mayweather ran away.

[hoagylt]

KBB has got to be Floyd , if not he is just an asshole.