Floyd & Manny exchange numbers

[ReggieDiggs]

I don't get it. Was I responding to a troll/joke?

That dudes an idiot. I'd encourage you to use your ignore button for dumbf#cks. Makes your interneting on Boxrec more enjoyable.

I agree Floyd is in that 155 range.

Wanna see someone who's way over his weight right now go look up recent pics of James Kirkland (maybe 185ish) & Adrien (no neck having mfer, probably 165, 170).

[jujigatame]

I don't get it. Was I responding to a troll/joke?

No, you're just way off. 155, he fights heavier than that.
And if he's 155 there, what does that make Pacquiao? About 142?

You're talking complete nonsense. He weighed way under the limit (150.5) against Canelo and his unofficial in-ring weight against Maidana was 148. Both he and Manny could still easily make 140 if they wanted to. They are only a few pounds apart as far as weight goes.

[Ricky_]

I don't get it. Was I responding to a troll/joke?

No, you're just way off. 155, he fights heavier than that.
And if he's 155 there, what does that make Pacquiao? About 142?

You're talking complete nonsense. He weighed way under the limit (150.5) against Canelo and his unofficial in-ring weight against Maidana was 148. Both he and Manny could still easily make 140 if they wanted to. They are only a few pounds apart as far as weight goes.

Some of you guys who talk about weight ain't got a clue. Mayweather lies about his weight all the time, "unofficial" what does that mean, that's what Floyd says he weighs?

When he steps on the scales and weighs around 150ish pounds, that's after a 3-month training camp and shredded down to the low BF %'s.

When he did his stunt on WWE 7 years ago he was in one his long absences from the sport and weighed 159lb. Like i said, 7 years ago, he's packing more muscle now. In that photo Pacquiao is probably in the mid 150's and Floyd is clearly 10lb+ heavier than him.

[jujigatame]

First of all, you can't get any sort of useful information from looking at that picture, and if you think you can, you're an idiot.

Second of all, it sounds like you have very little understanding of how weight works in combat sports. He weighed 150.5 for a 152 pound fight against Canelo. That means that chances are he did not cut water weight to make the limit. If he did he did an incompetent job and cut too much, which is very rare. The fact that he unofficially weighed 148 to Maidana's 165 corroborates this. He does not cut much water at all, so he does not gain a lot of weight on the day of the fight. "Unofficial" does not mean "some number Floyd made up". It means Showtime weighed them on the day of the fight, but that weight is not official for athletic commission purposes.

It's possible Floyd gains a little weight between fights, but he strikes me as the type who always stays in shape so I doubt he's bloating up more than 5-10 pounds. That's really not material anyway. What matters is what weight they're at in the ring, and for both men, that number hovers around 150 pounds.

[Ricky_]

You can get from that picture that Floyd has bigger physique than Pacquiao, with years of will-they/won't-they, this is the first time ever the 2 have met and been seen side-by-side, so it's interesting to guage size. Something you seem to have no concept of.

155...


Let's play a game called "guess Floyd's weight".




Here's the Canelo weigh in (date: 13th of September 2013), we know the official weight here is 150.5. That's not disputed.



Rewind the 3-month training camp, to the 19th of June, 2013:



Here we have a Floyd Mayweather who has been out-of-training for approx 6-weeks having fought Guerrero on May 4 2013.


What do you think he weighs in the above picture?

[jujigatame]

You can't tell someone's weight by a picture, especially one where they are half-clothed and the perspective is unclear. I have provided actual numerical evidence, while your methods are unscientific to say the least. You would have us believe that Floyd weighs 165 or more, yet he can still make 147 comfortably. Plus he moronically cut more weight than he had to against both Oscar and Canelo. Plus he tricked Showtime's scale into thinking he was 20 less pounds than he actually was on the day of the last Maidana fight.

Do you really believe all of these things?

[Ricky_]

^ I don't think you quite get the rules of the game.

Indeed you can't tell accurately from a picture, hence why the game is called "guess Floyd's weight".

Some of the crap i've read about Floyd's weight over the years is astounding, some boxing fans actually believe he loses weight after the weigh-in. How stupid can you be.


Anyway you get the point, in the 2nd picture he's at least 160 pounds and it was a matter of weeks after the Guerrero fight. Hence why i think he's north of 165 just now, he's been out of action for over 4 months.

[jujigatame]

^ I don't think you quite get the rules of the game.

Indeed you can't tell accurately from a picture, hence why the game is called "guess Floyd's weight".

Some of the crap i've read about Floyd's weight over the years is astounding, some boxing fans actually believe he loses weight after the weigh-in. How stupid can you be.


Anyway you get the point, in the 2nd picture he's at least 160 pounds and it was a matter of weeks after the Guerrero fight. Hence why i think he's north of 165 just now, he's been out of action for over 4 months.

You don't understand your own game. If you want to guess Floyd's weight, you look at actual data regarding what he has actually weighed in the past, not a couple of candid pictures of him.

Your estimations about how big he looks are based on nothing of substance and are almost certainly wrong.

[KBB]

It's a great day for the sport of boxing.......................................................................a Mayweather/Pacquiao/Mayweather v Pacquiao thread worth reading

Until KBB aka Brut chimes in, then it goes from worth reading to worth ignoring.

You are worth ignoring. I really have nothing to say about this photo other than everyone knows that Manny can't even unzip his pants without Bob's permission.

[Ricky_]

If you want to guess Floyd's weight, you look at actual data regarding what he has actually weighed in the past,

Not much of a guess then is it? Anyway the only real data we have is him weighing 160lb in his WWE showpiece 7 years ago. Sicne then he's weighed up to 151 on official weigh-ins, to think he walks around only 4lb heavier than that when he's been off for 5 months is absurd.

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I personally know that Manny will only use Hungarian Goose Down 40% while Mayweather is Russian Goose Down 60%. Perhaps they will settle for a 60 - 40 split ?

Quality.

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I reckon Manny is the top, and Floyd the pillow biter

Poor Floyd.

[Badhusker]

This article will certainly get the Pac fanatics all fired up. Mayweather tells Pacquiao to his face to stop lying about signing the contract.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/01/may ... ore-187595

There is also a very interesting interview on fight hype with Koncz about the meeting. Koncz confirms what Floyd told Manny, and said it was very productive, and basically what they were saying to the media is what Arum told them to say. He is very confident the fight will happen from the way he talked.

[cletomex]

I think they were agreeing to a 2-on-2 basketball game....Mayweather and Uncle Roger vs Pacquiao and Buboy.

[KBB]

This article will certainly get the Pac fanatics all fired up. Mayweather tells Pacquiao to his face to stop lying about signing the contract.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/01/may ... ore-187595

There is also a very interesting interview on fight hype with Koncz about the meeting. Koncz confirms what Floyd told Manny, and said it was very productive, and basically what they were saying to the media is what Arum told them to say. He is very confident the fight will happen from the way he talked.

No it won't they will just do what Manny's being doing regarding this fight which is DUCKING it! My comments are the only thing that motivates them to hate more and come out against me and I love it.

[Lackeos]

Floyd's demeanor was aggressive. Of course he had a 400 pound bodyguard around him at all times, while Manny only had Koncz. Acting thuggish and trying to punk Pacquiao while having no intention of fighting him is simply pathetic at this point.

I'm not sure how much intimidation factor / false courage are really offered by Mayweathers' bodyguards in this situation. Those giants are meant to intimidate the average person. I'm pretty sure that Pacquiao could easily put out the lights of everyone in Mayweather's entourage, and I'm pretty sure Pacquiao and Mayweather both know that. Also, I don't think Pacquiao and Mayweather could realistically hurt each other in a street fight regardless. Everyone in the arena would pull them apart in like 3 seconds, whereas it would take them like 20 minutes to land a punch on one another.

[jujigatame]

Anyway the only real data we have is him weighing 160lb in his WWE showpiece 7 years ago.

First of all, LOL at you describing a WWE weigh-in as "real data".

Second of all, it's possible he's as high as 160, but Floyd is always in the gym, he's not the type to balloon excessively between fights, and his in-ring fighting weight seems to be around 150, very close to Manny's. So it's very unlikely that he's bigger than that.

[Ricky_]

Anyway the only real data we have is him weighing 160lb in his WWE showpiece 7 years ago.

First of all, LOL at you describing a WWE weigh-in as "real data".

Second of all, it's possible he's as high as 160, but Floyd is always in the gym, he's not the type to balloon excessively between fights, and his in-ring fighting weight seems to be around 150, very close to Manny's. So it's very unlikely that he's bigger than that.

So you don't wan't evaluate weight based upon clear photographs showing present condition such as the Canelo photoshoot, nor do you want to consider data from were he actually stood upon a scale.

I know you already admitted to being to stupid to make a judgement on a photograph (which begs the question why you would even weigh in on your guesses as to what he currently weighs), but here's what Mayweather looks like when he weighs 151lb after a 3-month training camp;




And having been out of action for over 4 months, you think he only weights 4 pounds heavier? He would have went to bed that night 4 pounds heavier. You're way off, and i think you know it.

[tiny_acres]

The only thing we have all agreed on in this post is that Ricky is an idiot.

[jujigatame]

So you don't wan't evaluate weight based upon clear photographs showing present condition such as the Canelo photoshoot, nor do you want to consider data from were he actually stood upon a scale.

I know you already admitted to being to stupid to make a judgement on a photograph (which begs the question why you would even weigh in on your guesses as to what he currently weighs), but here's what Mayweather looks like when he weighs 151lb after a 3-month training camp;

And having been out of action for over 4 months, you think he only weights 4 pounds heavier? He would have went to bed that night 4 pounds heavier. You're way off, and i think you know it.

1) I don't know how many times I can say this. Judging weight based on photos is inherently unreliable. And you were the first person to dismiss actual data from a scale when you said we couldn't trust Showtime's unofficial fight-night weight of 148. Yet you are happy to accept a weight from WWE of all sources.

2) I'm "to stupid"? Whatever you say, champ.

3) Not every fighter balloons in weight after a fight. Floyd takes very good care of his body and does not cut a significant amount of water weight, so it is highly unlikely he is gaining 20 pounds between fights. You are basically putting him at a comparable size to Canelo, who hasn't been able to make 147 for years whereas Floyd can still make it very easily.

In the end, what's important is what weight a fighter enters the ring at. Floyd and Manny would both enter the ring within a couple pounds of 150. They are approximately the same size, give or take a few pounds. That is all.

[SFW]

Forget the weight. It's clear to me, having met both before and after fights, that Floyd is slightly bigger, slightly bulkier, he just grew into welterweight a lil better. Manny is slightly shorter height and reach. If either of these guys were thinking about 140 again it would most definitely be easier for Pac.

[Ricky_]

There's staying in shape, and there's walking around at the same weight you fight at. He weighs in around 150lb, fights at about 155lb and you thinks he walks around at that weight too? Why did you even bother commenting?

Floyd is walking around north of 165 and it shows standing side by side with Pacquiao, being slightly broader/muscular up top.

But yeah, thanks for your opinion, he's probably ripped to shreds under that hoody and attending basketball games fit to stand on a scale & make the LMW limit. Thanks for your input

[jujigatame]

He weighs in around 150lb, fights at about 155lb and you thinks he walks around at that weight too? Why did you even bother commenting?

He weighs in at 147 for WW fights and about 150 for LMW fights, and he fights at about 150.

The rest of your gibberish is irrelevant.

[palooka]

I thought Floyd was very dedicated and didn't get all out of shape, once in camp he certainly seems to put the work in - he does have a bigger frame than Manny but does Pacquiao have sturdier legs?

[jujigatame]

I thought Floyd was very dedicated and didn't get all out of shape, once in camp he certainly seems to put the work in - he does have a bigger frame than Manny but does Pacquiao have sturdier legs?

I strongly doubt he gets significantly out of shape between fights. He's a prick but he's a very dedicated athlete. He goes to the club and spends thousands of dollars on booze for his crew but he doesn't even drink himself.