Floyd & Manny exchange numbers

[palooka]

There is a lot to admire about him though he does behave shitty sometimes, I hope the bout comes off and I think it'd be one well worth watching - I also think Floyd is tougher than he's given credit for; it'd be nice if Manny forced him into a dogfight.

[KBB]

There's staying in shape, and there's walking around at the same weight you fight at. He weighs in around 150lb, fights at about 155lb and you thinks he walks around at that weight too? Why did you even bother commenting?

Floyd is walking around north of 165 and it shows standing side by side with Pacquiao, being slightly broader/muscular up top.

But yeah, thanks for your opinion, he's probably ripped to shreds under that hoody and attending basketball games fit to stand on a scale & make the LMW limit. Thanks for your input

Prove it!! We're waiting......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

[Ricky_]

He weighs in around 150lb, fights at about 155lb and you thinks he walks around at that weight too? Why did you even bother commenting?

He weighs in at 147 for WW fights and about 150 for LMW fights, and he fights at about 150.

The rest of your gibberish is irrelevant.

He's weighed 151 on the scale, fights north of that ofcourse, if you know anything about competing in any athletic event you'd perhaps understand a little about hydration/carbohydration preparation.

in the ring he's weighing anything north of 155 and to think he walks about at that same weight in between fights disqualifies you from commenting, so

[jujigatame]

He's weighed 151 on the scale, fights north of that ofcourse, if you know anything about competing in any athletic event you'd perhaps understand a little about hydration/carbohydration preparation.

in the ring he's weighing anything north of 155 and to think he walks about at that same weight in between fights disqualifies you from commenting, so

You cannot possibly be this dense. Most guys are significantly heavier in the ring than they are during the weigh-in because they cut water weight. This is how a guy like Maidana will weigh in at 147 but be 165 the next day. He rehydrates. This much it seems we can agree on.

Now, here's the part you are continually failing to understand. Fighters who cut significant water weight will NEVER weigh in significantly under the limit like Floyd has done every time he's fought at LMW, and they would NEVER only gain 1 pound in an unofficial weigh-in 24 hours after the official weigh-in.

Thus, anyone who understands weight cutting will tell you that Floyd's weight in the ring is actually very close to his weight on the day of the weigh-in. Your statement that "in the ring he's weighing anything north of 155" is baseless and contrary to the facts. That is all.

[Ricky_]

Sigh...

ok you want some facts;

Last time Floyd had a ring weight taken and broadcast was;

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GTZQT3F05AI/T ... 9%2B17.jpg


That's a 4lb gain overnight. Not a great deal by today's standard, never-the-less, athletes carb up for energy and are obviously well hydrated enteing the ring.

I never seen any unofficial ring weights for Guerrero but i read online Floyd was a bit heavier than normal, mid 150's. That's ofcourse fitting with him being both a little older and visibly more muscular than he was around 4 or 5 years ago. Never the less, you can expect any fighter to be at the very least 3lb heavier than what they weighed on the scales simply down to 24-hour preparation for the bout.

What Floyd is walking around at now, or, what he weighed in the that photograph above in the Canelo photoshoot, is ofcourse, speculation. If you don't want to indulge in speculation, then i don't know why you bothered commenting. But to suggest he's weighing the same after 4 months off and attending a basketball match is laughable, and you have no concept of the weight management of an athlete. Anyone who thinks he's anything less than 160lb doesn't have a clue.

[tiny_acres]

I would guess 155-160. But that is nothing more than a guess.

[jujigatame]

That's a 4lb gain overnight. Not a great deal by today's standard, never-the-less, athletes carb up for energy and are obviously well hydrated enteing the ring.

A 4 pound gain ... up to 150, which by every single piece of available evidence is the approximate weight he fights at in the ring. Your own evidence agrees with me here.

Also, as I've already mentioned, you're also wrong that this is the last time he's had a fight-night weight taken:

http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on ... prediction

[jamesmcdonnell]

Floyd is by no stretch a big welterweight. There's guys fighting at 147, whose walk around weight will be 160, even 170 - Floyd is really a big lightweight by modern standards. Pacquaio is packing a lot more muscle onto that frame, and has huge legs, especially his calves, which are like boulders.

The two of them are both responsible for the fight not happening years ago - it's a cash-out retirement fund fight, it will still be absolfucinlutelyhumungous, without a doubt, it will be hyped to the hilt. I look forward to it even now, - I think both have slipped a little, Floyd in output and offensive work, manny in his fire and drive, but it could still be a great fight.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Sigh...

ok you want some facts;

Last time Floyd had a ring weight taken and broadcast was;

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GTZQT3F05AI/T ... 9%2B17.jpg


That's a 4lb gain overnight. Not a great deal by today's standard, never-the-less, athletes carb up for energy and are obviously well hydrated enteing the ring.

I never seen any unofficial ring weights for Guerrero but i read online Floyd was a bit heavier than normal, mid 150's. That's ofcourse fitting with him being both a little older and visibly more muscular than he was around 4 or 5 years ago. Never the less, you can expect any fighter to be at the very least 3lb heavier than what they weighed on the scales simply down to 24-hour preparation for the bout.

What Floyd is walking around at now, or, what he weighed in the that photograph above in the Canelo photoshoot, is ofcourse, speculation. If you don't want to indulge in speculation, then i don't know why you bothered commenting. But to suggest he's weighing the same after 4 months off and attending a basketball match is laughable, and you have no concept of the weight management of an athlete. Anyone who thinks he's anything less than 160lb doesn't have a clue.

People need to also bear in mind, Floyd is pretty much always in the gym, he is incredibly diligent. I bet he could make 140 if he had to with a couple of months notice. He's not a big guy at all.

[jamesmcdonnell]

He's weighed 151 on the scale, fights north of that ofcourse, if you know anything about competing in any athletic event you'd perhaps understand a little about hydration/carbohydration preparation.

in the ring he's weighing anything north of 155 and to think he walks about at that same weight in between fights disqualifies you from commenting, so

You cannot possibly be this dense. Most guys are significantly heavier in the ring than they are during the weigh-in because they cut water weight. This is how a guy like Maidana will weigh in at 147 but be 165 the next day. He rehydrates. This much it seems we can agree on.

Now, here's the part you are continually failing to understand. Fighters who cut significant water weight will NEVER weigh in significantly under the limit like Floyd has done every time he's fought at LMW, and they would NEVER only gain 1 pound in an unofficial weigh-in 24 hours after the official weigh-in.

Thus, anyone who understands weight cutting will tell you that Floyd's weight in the ring is actually very close to his weight on the day of the weigh-in. Your statement that "in the ring he's weighing anything north of 155" is baseless and contrary to the facts. That is all.

Bingo! Floyd is fighting close, very close to his walking around weight, very unusual in todays world, and more like the SRR days.

[Badhusker]

It sounds to me like Ricky is afraid for Manny's health if he ever dares to get in the ring with Floyd. Floyd is probably 175lb+ fight night.

[Syntax Error]

So, has all this mobile phone number swapping yielded any results, or are we going to be subjected to more images of the them happening to bump into each other by 'chance', or maybe gazing at each other over a three course meal at an expensive restaurant?

[tiny_acres]

So, has all this mobile phone number swapping yielded any results, or are we going to be subjected to more images of the them happening to bump into each other by 'chance', or maybe gazing at each other over a three course meal at an expensive restaurant?

I am waiting for Sunday.Rumor has it that Floyd will announce his next fight during halftime.
I will hold my breathe,pray,wish upon a star,cross my fingers and all that other lucky stuff in hopes that
Sunday we finally hear the announcement we have all waited on.

[KBB]

There's staying in shape, and there's walking around at the same weight you fight at. He weighs in around 150lb, fights at about 155lb and you thinks he walks around at that weight too? Why did you even bother commenting?

Floyd is walking around north of 165 and it shows standing side by side with Pacquiao, being slightly broader/muscular up top.

But yeah, thanks for your opinion, he's probably ripped to shreds under that hoody and attending basketball games fit to stand on a scale & make the LMW limit. Thanks for your input

Prove it!! We're waiting......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Ricky you still haven't proven what you stated that Floyd is walking around North of 165!! You are full of sh*t and would do anything to hate on Mayweather, if you are going to talk poo at least be able to back it up, otherwise STFU.

[Ricky_]

Bingo! Floyd is fighting close, very close to his walking around weight, very unusual in todays world, and more like the SRR days.

This myth of Floyd walking around at the same weight he fights at is utterly hilarious. Gotta hand it to Floyd though, he's done a great job of brainwashing his loyals with this one.


Couple of facts;

He couldn't even make 144 for Marquez.
He's in ripped conditioning at 151.
He's scaled 159 "walking around" during his WWE stunt.

Anyone who seriously thinks given his current size, age, and 4month+ hiatus and he's close to a fight weight is probably some couch potato who's never participated in any sport of any kind of weight management in their lives. He's easily north of 165.



Also, I wonder why it's only Floyd that this "walking around at his fight weight" fairytale applies to, and no other fighters.

[jujigatame]

Gotta hand it to Floyd though, he's done a great job of brainwashing his loyals with this one.

I'm not a "loyal" you chucklehead. I don't even like Floyd, and would strongly root for Manny if the fight happens. All you're doing is revealing your own biases.

Also, I wonder why it's only Floyd that this "walking around at his fight weight" fairytale applies to, and no other fighters.

It applies to Manny and Marquez as well. It also most likely applies to Robert Guerrero, and will apply to Golovkin if he ever moves up. It's not necessarily that they "walk around at their fight weight" but that they fight at a very similar weight to what they weigh in at.

The vast majority of fighters aren't comfortable doing this because it means they will usually be at a significant size disadvantage in the ring.

[Syntax Error]

So, has all this mobile phone number swapping yielded any results, or are we going to be subjected to more images of the them happening to bump into each other by 'chance', or maybe gazing at each other over a three course meal at an expensive restaurant?

I am waiting for Sunday.Rumor has it that Floyd will announce his next fight during halftime.
I will hold my breathe,pray,wish upon a star,cross my fingers and all that other lucky stuff in hopes that
Sunday we finally hear the announcement we have all waited on.

I really hope so.

I'm not actually bothered who Mayweather fights; I'm just sick of his paralysing the top of the 140, 147 & 154lb divisions, plus I don't want to see anymore pictures of him with Manny Pacquiao.

I was half expecting the next one of them would them buying each other Valentine's cards in Clinton's (or the equivalent of in the USA).

[palooka]

It would surprise me if there was real enmity between the two, they are both about to earn a massive purse through boxing each other; both are too intelligent to disregard the others strengths and attributes. There'll be a real respect behind the scenes.

[Ricky_]

It applies to Manny and Marquez as well. It also most likely applies to Robert Guerrero, and will apply to Golovkin if he ever moves up. It's not necessarily that they "walk around at their fight weight" but that they fight at a very similar weight to what they weigh in at.

The vast majority of fighters aren't comfortable doing this because it means they will usually be at a significant size disadvantage in the ring.

You have no basis for any of these fighters defeating science like you think Floyd does. And Golovkin, who defeated Rubio at the end of October, just scaled 172lb in the 30-day weigh in. He's barely taken any time off and about 2 months into current training camp and he's 12lb out from current weight class limit. It's really not that difficult to undrstand, these world level athletes are taking 3 month training camps because that's how long it takes them to go from their natural weight with healthy body fat %, down to fighting condition.

[palooka]

I thought the rationale of a 12 week camp was that the weight would be reduced by attendance to diet and a higher workload, the boxer trains according to the person he is facing and not only to make weight.

[Ricky_]

I thought the rationale of a 12 week camp was that the weight would be reduced by attendance to diet and a higher workload, the boxer trains according to the person he is facing and not only to make weight.

indeed, Murray is a big middle so Golovkin will be tweaking his regime a little here to have more ring weight imo.

[jujigatame]

You have no basis for any of these fighters defeating science like you think Floyd does.

What the hell does that even mean? Is that english?

Golovkin does weigh a bit over 170, so if he moves up to 168 he'll probably cut relatively little weight, just like Manny and Floyd at 147.

[Ricky_]

You have no basis for any of these fighters defeating science like you think Floyd does.

What the hell does that even mean? Is that english?

Golovkin does weigh a bit over 170, so if he moves up to 168 he'll probably cut relatively little weight, just like Manny and Floyd at 147.

No, because if he moves up, he adds lean muscle mass... just like Manny and Floyd did.

[jujigatame]

Except they didn't add muscle mass significantly over 150, as every available piece of data indicates.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Bingo! Floyd is fighting close, very close to his walking around weight, very unusual in todays world, and more like the SRR days.

This myth of Floyd walking around at the same weight he fights at is utterly hilarious. Gotta hand it to Floyd though, he's done a great job of brainwashing his loyals with this one.


Couple of facts;

He couldn't even make 144 for Marquez.
He's in ripped conditioning at 151.
He's scaled 159 "walking around" during his WWE stunt.

Anyone who seriously thinks given his current size, age, and 4month+ hiatus and he's close to a fight weight is probably some couch potato who's never participated in any sport of any kind of weight management in their lives. He's easily north of 165.



Also, I wonder why it's only Floyd that this "walking around at his fight weight" fairytale applies to, and no other fighters.

Floyd had no intention of making 144 for Marquez. He was happy to pay a penalty.

He could probably make 140 with a long training camp, but why would he

I said close to - for a modern athlete, walking around at 160 is close to fighting weight at 147, 14 pounds is not a lot of weight to lose to get to 147.