Passing of the torch.
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IRLangmaid25
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Passing of the torch.
What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
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Jose napoles V john H stracey?
Jack Dempey V Gene tunney
Maybe Joe Louis V Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempey V Gene tunney
Maybe Joe Louis V Ezzard Charles
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calzaghe v eubanks, tszu v hatton,pedroza v mcguigan and norris v leonard
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Amazing how Taylor/Hopkins was supposed to be one, and then six years later Taylor was (temporarily as it turned out) retired and Hopkins was a champion again.
Calzaghe/Lacy was also mistakenly expected to be a passing of the torch to the next generation.
Maybe when Whitaker was finally comprehensively beaten by Trinidad
Calzaghe/Lacy was also mistakenly expected to be a passing of the torch to the next generation.
Maybe when Whitaker was finally comprehensively beaten by Trinidad
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Pacquiao v De La Hoya springs to mind.
Tyson v Berbick & Tyson v Spinks underlined this change.
Naseem v Robinson?
Hagler v Minter
On a lower level Adrian Dodson mauling Lloyd Honeyghan.
Tyson v Berbick & Tyson v Spinks underlined this change.
Naseem v Robinson?
Hagler v Minter
On a lower level Adrian Dodson mauling Lloyd Honeyghan.
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Barrera v Pacquiao
Leonard vs Norris
Toney vs McCallum
Leonard vs Norris
Toney vs McCallum
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dr_devious
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Re: Passing of the torch.
Tszyu v Hatton
Cooper v Bugner
Cooper v Bugner
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Ray Robinson vs henry Armstrong..
Clay vs Liston
Tyson vs spinks
Duke McKenzie vs Charlie magri
Clay vs Liston
Tyson vs spinks
Duke McKenzie vs Charlie magri
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Morales v Zaragoza
Sanchez v Lopez
Marciano v Louis?
Holmes v Ali
Clay v Liston
Bugner v Cooper
McDonnell v McGuigan
Nelson v Gomez
Qawi v Saad Muhammed
Harvard. V Cowdell
Sanchez v Lopez
Marciano v Louis?
Holmes v Ali
Clay v Liston
Bugner v Cooper
McDonnell v McGuigan
Nelson v Gomez
Qawi v Saad Muhammed
Harvard. V Cowdell
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palooka wrote:Morales v Zaragoza
Sanchez v Lopez
Marciano v Louis?
Holmes v Ali
Clay v Liston
Bugner v Cooper
McDonnell v McGuigan
Nelson v Gomez
Qawi v Saad Muhammed
Harvard. V Cowdell
Good picks there Palooka. Qawi v Saad is a classic.
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Re: Passing of the torch.
Lennox Lewis -v- Gary Mason
Naseem Hamed -v- Steve Robinson
Herbie Hide -v- Michael Bentt
Naseem Hamed -v- Steve Robinson
Herbie Hide -v- Michael Bentt
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Tyson - Berbick, kind of passing the torch from Ali via Berbick in a weird way, also it seems like a new era began with that fight (I wasn't alive at the time however so I might be way out) 
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TheWigwam wrote:Tyson - Berbick, kind of passing the torch from Ali via Berbick in a weird way, also it seems like a new era began with that fight (I wasn't alive at the time however so I might be way out)
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Spot on mate its a pity you weren't around to experience it hopefully something similar will happen in your lifetime as it was a very exciting periodTheWigwam wrote:Tyson - Berbick, kind of passing the torch from Ali via Berbick in a weird way, also it seems like a new era began with that fight (I wasn't alive at the time however so I might be way out)
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Re: Passing of the torch.
Tyson was kind of a heavyweight torch bearer back.TheWigwam wrote:Tyson - Berbick, kind of passing the torch from Ali via Berbick in a weird way, also it seems like a new era began with that fight (I wasn't alive at the time however so I might be way out)
It was sort of similar when he blasted Holmes too.
Right before the fight started, Ali was in the ring & he went over to Tyson & said something to the effect of "get him for me" & Tyson duly obliged.
It definitely felt like a new HW era when Tyson defeated Berbick & by the start of 1990, it seemed as if he washed away all the top HWs of the 80s & was about to cement an unmatched legacy, but nobody told James Buster Douglas!
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tiny_acres
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Re: Passing of the torch.
I did not see Lewis vs Vitali as passing the torch.IRLangmaid25 wrote:What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
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tiny_acres wrote:I did not see Lewis vs Vitali as passing the torch.IRLangmaid25 wrote:What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
I suppose you could kinda sorta look at it that way, but instead of handing the torch over, Lewis sticks the torch in Vitali's Eye.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Passing of the torch.
BoxBuzz wrote:tiny_acres wrote:I did not see Lewis vs Vitali as passing the torch.IRLangmaid25 wrote:What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
I suppose you could kinda sorta look at it that way, but instead of handing the torch over, Lewis sticks the torch in Vitali's Eye.
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dempseyfire
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Re: Passing of the torch.
Yes, I was thinking a) Lennox won that fight and b) Vitali wasn't a spring chicken himself at 32 in that fight.BoxBuzz wrote:tiny_acres wrote:I did not see Lewis vs Vitali as passing the torch.IRLangmaid25 wrote:What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
I suppose you could kinda sorta look at it that way, but instead of handing the torch over, Lewis sticks the torch in Vitali's Eye.
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Monzon v Benvenuti
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I think in a way it was passing the torch. Sure Lennox won the fight but people's perception of the HW division changed after the fight. It announced the arrival of Vitali as a major force and it also made people realise that Lennox had basically come to the end of his career. That is is no way a slight on Lennox who was a great champion. The point is that it was his swansong and Vitali, although he lost, wasn't really seen as a loser afterwards. On the contrary, he won a lot of respect after that night and then went on to become a dominant champion. As for his age, that doesn't matter as he stayed on for a long time after turning 32.tiny_acres wrote:I did not see Lewis vs Vitali as passing the torch.IRLangmaid25 wrote:What fights in history would be regarded as a passing of the torch to the younger generation? For me
Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya
Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko.
Muhammed Ali and Larry Holmes
Are the first three that immediately jump out. What else can we think of?
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Thanks for the nice replies to my comment guys 
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witherspoon
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Re: Passing of the torch.
I know that Sal won emphatically, but Sanchez v Azumah Nelson carries an air of torch passing, in a tragic kind of way.
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IRLangmaid25
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Re: Passing of the torch.
For me the Lennox Lewis v Vitali Klitschko fight was a passing of the torch to an extent. Because Vitali got his title back before Wladimir however Wladimir would end up being the more active and dominant as Vitali had those four years out following the defeat of Danny Williams in 2004 because of repetitive knee and back problems. So it was probably the start of the Klitschko era but it would be Wladimir and not Vitali who would grab most of the belts.
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Ambling Alp II
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To many people it just confirmed that Vitaly wasn't very good. He fought an obese Lennox Lewis and only lasted 6 rounds. That Kltischko has been as successful as he was is just more evidence that the division was much, much better when Lewis was closer to his prime.