Will Mundine ever stop ducking Trout?

[thunderfromdownunder]

Mundine has already ducked Trout a couple of times about 3 years ago. Trout's manager tried and tried to get a deal done and Trout held a title belt too. But Mundine didn't even turn up to the purse bid. Big no show your honour

The management teams had contract disagreements. This is why the fight didn't eventuate! Mundine wanted a rematch clause plus a few more. Yet, it was Trouts team that fucked them around. They also offered Trout probably his biggest payday to fight down under! It is common knowledge that if anyone was doing the "ducking"... It was Trout!

Now go back to asking yourself why Danny Green NEVER fought the best fighter in any division he fought in...

Neither did Mundine

[Like a Boss]

Mundine ducked Trout more than once from what I could piece together. Old news now. Lets see if he has grown a set and is prepared to fight Trout now.

[dberry]

And if anyone on here doesn't know that the Echols fight, along with the Rabchenco fight, wasn't decided before the contracts where signed, then I'm both sorry for and envious of your naivety

[Pureist]

Haha, this is hilarious.

Good ol' Mundine ducked Trout, if he didn't, if he truly wanted the fight, he would've turned up for the purse bid. The fight would've been made.

I don't care if it was due to money, due to fear or if he had a vision that if he fought Trout the world would end, and therefore saved the world by not fighting Trout.
The bottom line is HE DUCKED HIM.

Just like he ducked the rematches with Kessler and (originally) Geale.

Mundine - like 90% of his career - put money first. Simple. Have a look at dome of the guys he has fought previously. Kessler and Echols would both beat Trout with ease. I will say it again. Trout is very overrated and is lucky to be ranked so highly. "Rematch" with Kessler? That's a cracker! Christ, what dribble.

Kessler BEAT mundine, you DO realise that don't you? Echols couldn't possibly have been 100% so soon after being shot, what was his reason for ducking geale for the mandatory rematch, would have been great PPV, his own promotion, he would have cleaned up

[Pureist]

And if anyone on here doesn't know that the Echols fight, along with the Rabchenco fight, wasn't decided before the contracts where signed, then I'm both sorry for and envious of your naivety

Totally agree, hit the nail right on the head

[Lairdy]

When did I mention "elite" fighters?! When did anyone other than the little fella in your mind say anything about this mysterious "rematch" with Kessler?! What dribble. And Echols... I'm sure you will tell your grandkids that Echols couldn't throw punches with the arm that had the bullet in its pit, I can picture it! Pathetic.

1st off, I didn't mention Kessler, 2nd YOU said green was his best win, not me, so in your words his best win was against green who isn't an elite boxer, you put up such a good arguement for mundine, not, seriously you need to take a step back into reality

Green is Mundines best win IMO. Then you crap on asking if i think Green is "elite". Of course i don't! Yeah, I was thinking of the other fellas comment too, when I replied. My mistake.

[Lairdy]

And if anyone on here doesn't know that the Echols fight, along with the Rabchenco fight, wasn't decided before the contracts where signed, then I'm both sorry for and envious of your naivety

Gosh. Most of what you have said on hear, I actually agree with. I do believe that Mundine would rather fight fellow "boxers", rather than "fighters". That is his style. Maybe he didn't expect Geale to be as good as he was, and decided he needed to go away and do some tuning up. I don't know. But Geale won the rematch with ease.

Then you come out saying that the Echols and Rabchenko fights were thrown... Come on!

[Pureist]

And if anyone on here doesn't know that the Echols fight, along with the Rabchenco fight, wasn't decided before the contracts where signed, then I'm both sorry for and envious of your naivety

Gosh. Most of what you have said on hear, I actually agree with. I do believe that Mundine would rather fight fellow "boxers", rather than "fighters". That is his style. Maybe he didn't expect Geale to be as good as he was, and decided he needed to go away and do some tuning up. I don't know. But Geale won the rematch with ease.

Then you come out saying that the Echols and Rabchenko fights were thrown... Come on!

Not thrown, a hometown decision by the judges, if you don't know they occur you are very naieve

[Lairdy]

And if anyone on here doesn't know that the Echols fight, along with the Rabchenco fight, wasn't decided before the contracts where signed, then I'm both sorry for and envious of your naivety

Gosh. Most of what you have said on hear, I actually agree with. I do believe that Mundine would rather fight fellow "boxers", rather than "fighters". That is his style. Maybe he didn't expect Geale to be as good as he was, and decided he needed to go away and do some tuning up. I don't know. But Geale won the rematch with ease.

Then you come out saying that the Echols and Rabchenko fights were thrown... Come on!

Not thrown, a hometown decision by the judges, if you don't know they occur you are very naieve

Echols barely landed a punch on Mundine, and had his ears boxed off. I had the Rabchenko fight 115-113 Mundine. He won that fight. Yet because it was a split decision, of course the haters are going to say it was a hometown decision!

[fox]

Hometown decision v Eccols? You're kidding aren't you. And Mundine v Rabchenco was close but Mundine won that fight. There's a lot of negative stuff you can say about Mundine but those are 2 fights he won without a doubt.

[Pureist]

been down this road already in the mundine rabchenko thread, opinion is opinion, hometown decision helped by a ref that didn't call a kid when it clearly was and if it was a draw after the 8th how did they give mundine 3 of the last 4 rounds, again, hometown decision, rabchenko was the patsie

[Lairdy]

been down this road already in the mundine rabchenko thread, opinion is opinion, hometown decision helped by a ref that didn't call a kid when it clearly was and if it was a draw after the 8th how did they give mundine 3 of the last 4 rounds, again, hometown decision, rabchenko was the patsie

Perhaps they gave Mundine a few more rounds because they clearly ripped him off in the first 8 rounds. Any true boxing fan that thinks that fight was even after 8 rounds has lost their marbles. But the haters will ignorantly hold on to the "even after eight" spiel for years to come!

[Pureist]

Judges that award make up rounds? Who has lost their marbles, you don't look at any of his fights without bias, how did you see the fight against clottey, was he robbed then?

[Lairdy]

Judges that award make up rounds? Who has lost their marbles, you don't look at any of his fights without bias, how did you see the fight against clottey, was he robbed then?

So saying that the judges got it wrong in the first 8 rounds is "bias"... Go home, jump on youtube without your "hater" goggles on. Watch the first 8 rounds and tell me how I am being "bias". How hypocritical to label me as being "bias", when you seem to have an excuse for every Mundine win!

IMO he went into the Clottey fight with the wrong mindset and got flogged because of it. And I think if he had that fight again, he would redeem himself.

But hey, you just hold onto the Ottke, Siaca, Kessler, Wood, Geale 2 and Clottey fights. And also hold onto the excuses for every win he's had. Then one day you can get people to have the same delusional opinions as yourself.

[fox]

Mundine should have been in front after 8 rounds so 1 judge was on the money in my opinion. It went the right way so that's all that matters. Whether Rabchenco was ordinary or not, Mundine still won. He might not have made the right decisions in regards to opponents and some of the silly things he says, but you can't take away from the fact that he can fight. Sure we've seen better fighters but he is still world class.

[Pureist]

As you noted, in your opinion, some fights watching live seem very different through the camera, I watched the fight 3 times and thought rabchenko won, 2 great mates of mine, both veteran pros were there on the night and were shocked mundine got the decision, they had it a shutout, not even close, I had it close but still a win to rabchenko

[fox]

As you noted, in your opinion, some fights watching live seem very different through the camera, I watched the fight 3 times and thought rabchenko won, 2 great mates of mine, both veteran pros were there on the night and were shocked mundine got the decision, they had it a shutout, not even close, I had it close but still a win to rabchenko

Not all the best pros make the best judges. But just cause I think Mundine won doesn't mean I'm right. We will agree to disagree on this one but that's fine. Wouldn't be a debate if we all thought the same thing.

[Lairdy]

they had it a shutout, not even close

Christ! How drunk were they?! Can't believe what I have just read!

[Pureist]

That's what happens when your a one eyed nut hugger, your not rashional when it comes to mundine, I'm not a mundine nor a green fan before you chuck a tantrum, your comment earlier about mundine going into the clottey fight with the wrong mindset I'm confused about, he couldn't hurt clottey so clottey marched right in behind punches, fairly basic

[Lairdy]

That's what happens when your a one eyed nut hugger, your not rashional when it comes to mundine, I'm not a mundine nor a green fan before you chuck a tantrum, your comment earlier about mundine going into the clottey fight with the wrong mindset I'm confused about, he couldn't hurt clottey so clottey marched right in behind punches, fairly basic

I think if you read most of my comments, I am a Mundine fan, but I'm not bias. So, by not being a Mundine or Green fan, while being on here bagging Mundine out. I assume you are probably an old timer drunk, that lives off your "veteran" pro boxers tales?... Have you actually had any experience in the sport? Or you just a classic hater?

[Pureist]

Boxed and now a trainer , that "doesn't drink" only 46, what about you nuthugger, as I've noted on many occasions, mundine is very talented, never lived up to his ability, not even close, if he fought as well as he ran his mouth off he probably would have had a shot at P4P top 20. Mediocrecy took him over and he took the easy road, plenty of cash but no lasting legacy like his father

[Lairdy]

Boxed and now a trainer , that "doesn't drink" only 46, what about you nuthugger, as I've noted on many occasions, mundine is very talented, never lived up to his ability, not even close, if he fought as well as he ran his mouth off he probably would have had a shot at P4P top 20. Mediocrecy took him over and he took the easy road, plenty of cash but no lasting legacy like his father

Boxed for 7. Very average amateur. Just a lover of everything boxing.

[Beltane]

Just a lover of everything boxing

Is Danny Green included in your "everything"?

[Pureist]

It's funny how the aussie boxing fans have this need to either follow green or mundine but have to hate the other, there has been so many good boxers over the years that with the right management and promotion would have shined so much brighter than either of them

[Lairdy]

Just a lover of everything boxing

Is Danny Green included in your "everything"?

Yes it does. Danny Green as a boxer I respect a lot. But as a person, I lost the little bit of respect I had for him after the Paul Briggs fiasco.