#1 in every division

[Chepppaaa]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

[tflanagan5]

wilder? are you mad?

Uysk might be number 1 by the end of the year

Walters isn't number 1, beating two blown up over the hill shot flyweights doesn't make you the number one

everyone else i agree on

[Ian1973]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

I dunno. After Wilder i gave it up as stupidity. Do you really, seriously, think Wilder will beat Klitschko? Come on i'm sure, like everyone, you want people to respect you. People won;t respect you when you come out with crap like that. They are leagues apart.

[keirw]

Gamboa? Not Crawford? You are aware that Crawford destroyed Gamboa a few months ago?

[Chepppaaa]

guys make a list...

sometimes you win when you actualy lost.

i found gamboa technicly easily beat crawford the first 4 rounds. than he wanted to trade big shots and outbrawl a taller bigger stronger opponent and simply got crushed.
had he fought like a defensive pu/()=y than he would have bored me to death but won an easy UD, thats my oppinion. so i like that he fought the way he fought, even so he lost. i prefer somebody going in for a bar fight, even if his opponent is taller and stronger puncher, but simply for the fact that i like action. same goes for pacquiao, some would fight marquez, because he hits hard and counters hard, most of the guys would fight him like a pus&$y like floyd or tim did and have ewasy ud's, but pac wants to entertain and goes in for the kill and when you do that its obvious that the risk is much higher than you doing like floyd, fast in, duck under, fast out, pause, repeat. glad that boxers go for it, else it would be a boring sory ass sport to watch.

[keirw]

guys make a list...

sometimes you win when you actualy lost.

i found gamboa technicly easily beat crawford the first 4 rounds. than he wanted to trade big shots and outbrawl a taller bigger stronger opponent and simply got crushed.
had he fought like a defensive pu/()=y than he would have bored me to death but won an easy UD, thats my oppinion. so i like that he fought the way he fought, even so he lost. i prefer somebody going in for a bar fight, even if his opponent is taller and stronger puncher, but simply for the fact that i like action. same goes for pacquiao, some would fight marquez, because he hits hard and counters hard, most of the guys would fight him like a pus&$y like floyd or tim did and have ewasy ud's, but pac wants to entertain and goes in for the kill and when you do that its obvious that the risk is much higher than you doing like floyd, fast in, duck under, fast out, pause, repeat. glad that boxers go for it, else it would be a boring sory ass sport to watch.

How do you explain Lara? He didn't exactly 'go for it' against Canelo

[marvelous marv]

I would add Hekkie Budler at Minimum, pedro guevara at light fly, naoya inoue at super fly

[fanman]

Klitschko
Stevenson
Ward
Golovkin
Mayweather
Garcia

[sucracristo]

guys make a list...
glad that boxers go for it, else it would be a boring sory ass sport to watch.

How do you explain Lara? He didn't exactly 'go for it' against Canelo

and provodnikov threw like 3 punches a round against agieri.
provo will get crushed by matthysse.

[Chepppaaa]

make a list, or is all you can hating?

[keirw]

Not 'hating' just disagreeing, it is tough to make a comprehensive list that everyone agrees with as so few top guys fight eachother, except in some of the lower weights.
I'd say it should look more like this:

Hw- Klitschko- beaten everyone
Cw- Hernandez- though the top cruisers could all KO eachother on there day
Lhw- Kovalev- I can see him dominating for a long time
Smw- Froch- interim number 1 until ward comes back
Mw- GGG- can't see any Mws beating him
Lmw- Canelo- unless Mayweather moves up
Ww- Mayweather- head and shoulders above the rest
Lww- Garcia- for now, some good fights coming up in this division
Lw- Crawford- had an exellent 2014
Sfw- Uchiyama- has the best record in the division imo
Fw- J Gonzalez- beat previous number 1
Sbw- Rigondeaux- capable of beating everyone in the division
Bw- Yamanaka- looks clear number 1
Sflyw- Inoue- 2 weight champ, only 8 fights in aswell
Flyw- R Gonzalez- beat Estrada
Lflyw- Guevara- beat Yaegashi
Mw- Budler- not 100% clear, needs to try and unify

Feel free to disagree

[Batley18]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say that this is an odd list. Not sure how you can justify Wilder, Lara, and Prov. Not putting in the #1 P4P fighter seems like a bit of an oversight.

HW - Klitschko
CW - Terrible division, probably Drozd at the mo
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Froch - Ward inactive for too long
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Mayweather
WW - Mayweather
LW - Danny Garcia
L - Another poor division, especially with Crawford moving up. Would just side with Figueroa Jr.
SF - Uchiyama
FW - Gonzalez
SB - Rigo
BW - Kameda

[IRLangmaid25]

For me

Heavyweight: Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine
Cruiserweight: Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Cuba
Light Heavyweight: Sergey Kovalev, Russian Federation
Super Middleweight: Carl Froch, Great Britain
Middleweight: Gennady Golovkin, Kazakhstan
Light-Middleweight. Saul Alavrez, Mexico
Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather, United States
Light-Welterweight; Danny Garcia, United States
Lightweight, Terence Crawford, United States
Super-Featherweight, Mikey Garcia, United States
Featherweight, Jhonny Gonzalez, Mexico
Super-Bantamweight, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Cuba.

[Chepppaaa]

Not 'hating' just disagreeing, it is tough to make a comprehensive list that everyone agrees with as so few top guys fight eachother, except in some of the lower weights.
I'd say it should look more like this:

Hw- Klitschko- beaten everyone
Cw- Hernandez- though the top cruisers could all KO eachother on there day
Lhw- Kovalev- I can see him dominating for a long time
Smw- Froch- interim number 1 until ward comes back
Mw- GGG- can't see any Mws beating him
Lmw- Canelo- unless Mayweather moves up
Ww- Mayweather- head and shoulders above the rest
Lww- Garcia- for now, some good fights coming up in this division
Lw- Crawford- had an exellent 2014
Sfw- Uchiyama- has the best record in the division imo
Fw- J Gonzalez- beat previous number 1
Sbw- Rigondeaux- capable of beating everyone in the division
Bw- Yamanaka- looks clear number 1
Sflyw- Inoue- 2 weight champ, only 8 fights in aswell
Flyw- R Gonzalez- beat Estrada
Lflyw- Guevara- beat Yaegashi
Mw- Budler- not 100% clear, needs to try and unify

Feel free to disagree

no, its a good list, well done

[Chepppaaa]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say that this is an odd list. Not sure how you can justify Wilder, Lara, and Prov. Not putting in the #1 P4P fighter seems like a bit of an oversight.

HW - Klitschko
CW - Terrible division, probably Drozd at the mo
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Froch - Ward inactive for too long
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Mayweather
WW - Mayweather
LW - Danny Garcia
L - Another poor division, especially with Crawford moving up. Would just side with Figueroa Jr.
SF - Uchiyama
FW - Gonzalez
SB - Rigo
BW - Kameda

very easy to answer.

wlad is for me no boxer, but a wrestler, i dont rate him as a boxer. i think he wins mostly by bought in refs and illegal holding n wrestle tactics.

lara is one if the not see most unerrated boxers in the world. who was abck than arguably the most avoided boxer at 154 and welterweight, barely nobody wanted to face this guy?
exactly prime paul williams, a 6'3 power puncher. did you know lara faced him and harold letterman had it 9:3 for lara and everybody including gus like roy jones said it was a disgrace that williams got the win. also other fights against vanes or molina, he was in one leading the fight and than a bullcrap descision and the other he also won and again got robbed. so, and now let us talk about the canelo fight were lara technicly dominated canelo and made him miss so bad and even with some rounds lost because stupid lara stopped punching at all adn was just moving, even with those rounds giving away he still won 8 rounds out of 12. so with wins over such dangerous guys like williams and canelo, he damn sure is #1 at 154.

provodnikov is again somebody same as lara who often had judges against him. against herrera he easily won. against bradley it was close, but still he won, he was stronger than bradley. and against algieri he also won. guys like danny or matt would start brawling or start heavy trading with this guy and i think he can take their punches but they cant take his punches. he is no clear #1 but he is #1.

as far as floyd goes. for #1 p4p is rigondeaux. as far as the welterweight discussion goes, i simply feel that pacs high punching volume would win him a ot of rounds and ultimatly would have him as a winner against floyd. in the maidana II fight i saw floyd certainly not having the legs and footspeed he used to have. not having a great footspeed against one of the fastest and most dangerous attacker in the world of boxer is a big disadvantage, although floyd still is super slick. longstory short, it is a close fight and both can beat each other, i just see at the end pacquiao beating floyd and therefore having him #1 at welterweight, but this can change quick, since kell brook looked tremendous in his last fight and thurman is also improving fight by fight and both floyd and pac are basicly at the end of the road.

[KBB]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say that this is an odd list. Not sure how you can justify Wilder, Lara, and Prov. Not putting in the #1 P4P fighter seems like a bit of an oversight.

HW - Klitschko
CW - Terrible division, probably Drozd at the mo
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Froch - Ward inactive for too long
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Mayweather
WW - Mayweather
LW - Danny Garcia
L - Another poor division, especially with Crawford moving up. Would just side with Figueroa Jr.
SF - Uchiyama
FW - Gonzalez
SB - Rigo
BW - Kameda

very easy to answer.

wlad is for me no boxer, but a wrestler, i dont rate him as a boxer. i think he wins mostly by bought in refs and illegal holding n wrestle tactics.

lara is one if the not see most unerrated boxers in the world. who was abck than arguably the most avoided boxer at 154 and welterweight, barely nobody wanted to face this guy?
exactly prime paul williams, a 6'3 power puncher. did you know lara faced him and harold letterman had it 9:3 for lara and everybody including gus like roy jones said it was a disgrace that williams got the win. also other fights against vanes or molina, he was in one leading the fight and than a bullcrap descision and the other he also won and again got robbed. so, and now let us talk about the canelo fight were lara technicly dominated canelo and made him miss so bad and even with some rounds lost because stupid lara stopped punching at all adn was just moving, even with those rounds giving away he still won 8 rounds out of 12. so with wins over such dangerous guys like williams and canelo, he damn sure is #1 at 154.

provodnikov is again somebody same as lara who often had judges against him. against herrera he easily won. against bradley it was close, but still he won, he was stronger than bradley. and against algieri he also won. guys like danny or matt would start brawling or start heavy trading with this guy and i think he can take their punches but they cant take his punches. he is no clear #1 but he is #1.

as far as floyd goes. for #1 p4p is rigondeaux. as far as the welterweight discussion goes, i simply feel that pacs high punching volume would win him a ot of rounds and ultimatly would have him as a winner against floyd. in the maidana II fight i saw floyd certainly not having the legs and footspeed he used to have. not having a great footspeed against one of the fastest and most dangerous attacker in the world of boxer is a big disadvantage, although floyd still is super slick. longstory short, it is a close fight and both can beat each other, i just see at the end pacquiao beating floyd and therefore having him #1 at welterweight, but this can change quick, since kell brook looked tremendous in his last fight and thurman is also improving fight by fight and both floyd and pac are basicly at the end of the road.

LOL Rigo ahead of Floyd and Ward, lol!!

[davie]

HW - Wlad
CW - Huck
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Ward
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Canelo
WW - Floyd
LWW - D.Garcia
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzalez
SBW - Rigo
BW - Kameda
SFW - Inoue
FW - R Gonzalez
LFW - Guevara
MW - Budler

Couple inactive guys in there but ultimately they deserve to be number 1

[handsofstone]

Klitschko
Huck
Kovalev
Ward
Golovkin
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Crawford
Gamboa
M Garcia
Lomachenko
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
Gonzalez
Guevara
Budler

[davie]

HW - Wlad
CW - Huck
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Ward
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Canelo
WW - Floyd
LWW - D.Garcia
LW - Crawford
SFW - M.Garcia
FW - Gonzalez
SBW - Rigo
BW - Kameda
SFW - Inoue
FW - R Gonzalez
LFW - Guevara
MW - Budler

Couple inactive guys in there but ultimately they deserve to be number 1

Good list, though I'd like to see if Ward's relative inactivity since 2011 has had a permanent detrimental effect on his ability.

As would I.
But I honestly think he'll still be head and shoulders above the rest of the division.

He's 30, not exactly shopworn and doesn't rely solely on attributes that might dip with age.
He'll have kept involved in the gym and I reckon after a warm up fight to knock off the ring rust he'll do to the dirrells, groves and degale what he did to froch, kessler and abraham.
The only possible challenge comes from Golovkin or Kovalev and if he's at his best, I still give Ward the edge in those as well, particularly if he can get them at a weight that suits him.

[funso banjo baby]

Wilder still barely makes the world top 10

[The Great John L]

Wilder still barely makes the world top 10

If you mean within the HW division, you must be kidding. After Wlad and Povetkin, he's at least as established as everybody else in the division. Besides Wlad and Povetkin, who else in the division has a clearly better resume? It's not like this is the old days when ranked HWs used to actually fight each other.

[Leonid]

Wilder still barely makes the world top 10

If you mean within the HW division, you must be kidding. After Wlad and Povetkin, he's at least as established as everybody else in the division. Besides Wlad and Povetkin, who else in the division has a clearly better resume? It's not like this is the old days when ranked HWs used to actually fight each other.

So who has a clearly better resume than Wilder? That's easier than you think. So let's take a look at Wilder's record: there are wins over one top 10 guy + two top 50. That's it. That's all that matters.
Now take the top guys nearby and you'll see:
Pulev: 2 top10 + 5 top50
Fury: 1 top10 + 5 top50
Glazkov: 1 top10 + 4 top50
Even freaking Chisora beat Helenius + 6 top50, and only lost to the very top guys.
There are also guys on a downfall, that have clearly better resumes, like Chagaev and Chambers.

PS: oldtimers just fought much more often and therefore had more deep resumes. current division is just different. Despite what you may imagine current contenders are not all unproved, take the top6 fighters (1.Wlad, 2.Povetkin, 3.Pulev, 4.Fury, 5.Glazkov, 6.Wilder) all have wins over guys, who were top 6 at the time.

[ikorolev]

Klitschko
? too close to call
Kovalev
Ward
Golovkin
Lara
? Mayweather or Pacquiao -- should be clear this year
D Garcia
Crawford
M Garcia
Lomachenko
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
Inoue
Gonzalez
? need a microscope
? need a microscope

[man]

Klitschko
Stevenson
Ward
Golovkin
Mayweather
Garcia

sounds way more reasonable than
the OP's list.

[Batley18]

Wilder
Usyk
Kovalev
Froch
Golovkin
Lara
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Gamboa
Barthelemy
Walthers
Rigondeaux
Yamanaka
?
Gonzales
?
?


what you got?

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I must say that this is an odd list. Not sure how you can justify Wilder, Lara, and Prov. Not putting in the #1 P4P fighter seems like a bit of an oversight.

HW - Klitschko
CW - Terrible division, probably Drozd at the mo
LHW - Kovalev
SMW - Froch - Ward inactive for too long
MW - Golovkin
LMW - Mayweather
WW - Mayweather
LW - Danny Garcia
L - Another poor division, especially with Crawford moving up. Would just side with Figueroa Jr.
SF - Uchiyama
FW - Gonzalez
SB - Rigo
BW - Kameda

very easy to answer.

wlad is for me no boxer, but a wrestler, i dont rate him as a boxer. i think he wins mostly by bought in refs and illegal holding n wrestle tactics.

lara is one if the not see most unerrated boxers in the world. who was abck than arguably the most avoided boxer at 154 and welterweight, barely nobody wanted to face this guy?
exactly prime paul williams, a 6'3 power puncher. did you know lara faced him and harold letterman had it 9:3 for lara and everybody including gus like roy jones said it was a disgrace that williams got the win. also other fights against vanes or molina, he was in one leading the fight and than a bullcrap descision and the other he also won and again got robbed. so, and now let us talk about the canelo fight were lara technicly dominated canelo and made him miss so bad and even with some rounds lost because stupid lara stopped punching at all adn was just moving, even with those rounds giving away he still won 8 rounds out of 12. so with wins over such dangerous guys like williams and canelo, he damn sure is #1 at 154.

provodnikov is again somebody same as lara who often had judges against him. against herrera he easily won. against bradley it was close, but still he won, he was stronger than bradley. and against algieri he also won. guys like danny or matt would start brawling or start heavy trading with this guy and i think he can take their punches but they cant take his punches. he is no clear #1 but he is #1.

as far as floyd goes. for #1 p4p is rigondeaux. as far as the welterweight discussion goes, i simply feel that pacs high punching volume would win him a ot of rounds and ultimatly would have him as a winner against floyd. in the maidana II fight i saw floyd certainly not having the legs and footspeed he used to have. not having a great footspeed against one of the fastest and most dangerous attacker in the world of boxer is a big disadvantage, although floyd still is super slick. longstory short, it is a close fight and both can beat each other, i just see at the end pacquiao beating floyd and therefore having him #1 at welterweight, but this can change quick, since kell brook looked tremendous in his last fight and thurman is also improving fight by fight and both floyd and pac are basicly at the end of the road.

Whether you like Wlad's style or not, he is the best HW in the World, and would finish Wilder within 5 imo.

Lara is a tricky customer no doubt, and I love watching his fights, but regardless of the scorecards, he has been unable to truly dominate in his biggest fights. I have Canelo down by about 3 rounds at one point, but I think I ended up with Alvarez up by a couple.

Whether or not Prov "beat" Algieri, the fact of the matter is that he should have mauled him. Given how one sided his fight was against Pacquiao, surely you would put him above Prov?

Rigo as #1 is a silly statement. He beat Donaire and who else? To be the best you got to beat the best. If the best in a weight division doesn't want to fight you, go up a division. How many multi weight World champions must we have at the moment? The ability to step outside your comfort zone and win is what makes a great boxer. Rigo, although supremely talented, needs to do a lot more to even come close to topping the rankings.