jujigatame wrote:I dunno how BJS even got into the title mix. He hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy, plus I saw the Eubank fight and he looked average at best. His only saving grace is that he's young and could potentially improve.
What about Lemieux then? Based on your standards he's beat no one and has lost to a couple of average fighters. How is he in the title mix?
I think excluding GGG the whole middleweight division is just average.
No one is head and shoulders above the other contenders.So who ever fights
for this belt is just a let down.
jujigatame wrote:I dunno how BJS even got into the title mix. He hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy, plus I saw the Eubank fight and he looked average at best. His only saving grace is that he's young and could potentially improve.
What about Lemieux then? Based on your standards he's beat no one and has lost to a couple of average fighters. How is he in the title mix?
I think Lemieux's last 2 opponents were both better than anyone BJS has fought, and Lemieux battered both of them whereas BJS barely scraped by an unproven Eubank who gave away the first 4 or 5 rounds by doing nothing.
I was actually more interested in BJS as a contender before seeing him action against Eubank.
jujigatame wrote:I dunno how BJS even got into the title mix. He hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy, plus I saw the Eubank fight and he looked average at best. His only saving grace is that he's young and could potentially improve.
What about Lemieux then? Based on your standards he's beat no one and has lost to a couple of average fighters. How is he in the title mix?
I think Lemieux's last 2 opponents were both better than anyone BJS has fought, and Lemieux battered both of them whereas BJS barely scraped by an unproven Eubank who gave away the first 4 or 5 rounds by doing nothing.
I was actually more interested in BJS as a contender before seeing him action against Eubank.
Rosado and Guerrero are no better than Blackwell, O'Sullivan, Ryder or Eubank Jr. Saunders beat Eubank Jr comfortably, the reason he did nothing early on was because Saunders was outboxing him, later on as Billy Joe tired a bit and lost concentration, he came on strong. You see Lemieux, Rosado and Guerrero as better because they're US/Canada based and you know more of them.
Rosado and Guerrero are no better than Blackwell, O'Sullivan, Ryder or Eubank Jr.
Disagree.
Saunders beat Eubank Jr comfortably, the reason he did nothing early on was because Saunders was outboxing him, later on as Billy Joe tired a bit and lost concentration, he came on strong.
Saunders looked average. He outboxed Eubank early but not impressively so. He lost 4 of the last 5 rounds and was getting battered late against an obviously limited opponent. The card for Eubank was poor but it wouldn't have been outrageous if the fight had been called a draw. Based on that fight I think either Lemieux or N'Dam both beat Saunders soundly.
You see Lemieux, Rosado and Guerrero as better because they're US/Canada based and you know more of them.
No, I have no bias whatsoever for American fighters. If anything you are the one showing a bias here.
jujigatame wrote:I dunno how BJS even got into the title mix. He hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy, plus I saw the Eubank fight and he looked average at best. His only saving grace is that he's young and could potentially improve.
Agreed. Bus looked euro level, jr British level. N"dam is fringe world class, neither should be within looking distance of a world title
