Who will the ref be

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Pureist wrote:
KBB wrote:
Pureist wrote:Repeated holding should get warnings and points deductions if it persists, weeks made the first fight between floyd and maidana by not breaking them when floyd tried to tie him up, in the second fight bayliss broke them before they were holding in some instances, not allowing the fight to progress as it should have
What if Manny is the one doing all the holding??
Either way it should be stopped straight away, punch out should be the first thing out of the refs mouth, pacquaio tends to throw inside, that's where he will want to be in the fight, floyd will want him at the end of his jab, floyd doesn't like being cramped, maidana did a great job of showing that in the first fight by dragging floyd into a brawl, that's what will make the fight exciting as long as the ref does his job properly
I don't think a brawl is needed in order for the fight to be exciting and Manny isn't an inside fighter at all, if so, please show me a fight where he had to fight on the inside because I can't recall one.
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Reiss, Esteves, Ortega, it should be someone outside the damn endless rotation of the same guys
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Bayless and Weeks have reffed in 4 of Floyds last 5 fights.

Bayless and Weeks have reffed in 4 of Pacs last 7 fights.

I'd like to see Jay Nady get the nod.
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chuck9788 wrote:Bayless and Weeks have reffed in 4 of Floyds last 5 fights.

Bayless and Weeks have reffed in 4 of Pacs last 7 fights.

I'd like to see Jay Nady get the nod.
Jay Nady sucks, he usually calls fights too quickly.
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KBB pacquaio will be fighting off floyds LH shoulder staying away from his right, you surely don't think he will fight at floyds distance do you? That would be naive, pacquaio is the first fighter that I can remember floyd fighting that constantly moves, everyone else has been a sitting duck or cannon fodder
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in the end when alls said and done it could well be a damp squib

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Pureist wrote:KBB pacquaio will be fighting off floyds LH shoulder staying away from his right, you surely don't think he will fight at floyds distance do you? That would be naive, pacquaio is the first fighter that I can remember floyd fighting that constantly moves, everyone else has been a sitting duck or cannon fodder

:TU:


They act like Pacquiao only is a come forward fighter like Hatton.

But Floyd has fought a few movers here and there (Judah, Mosley, to an extent, Marquez) just hasn't fought any in a while and would be interesting to see how his legs really are.
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IKSRTFO wrote:
Pureist wrote:KBB pacquaio will be fighting off floyds LH shoulder staying away from his right, you surely don't think he will fight at floyds distance do you? That would be naive, pacquaio is the first fighter that I can remember floyd fighting that constantly moves, everyone else has been a sitting duck or cannon fodder

:TU:


They act like Pacquiao only is a come forward fighter like Hatton.

But Floyd has fought a few movers here and there (Judah, Mosley, to an extent, Marquez) just hasn't fought any in a while and would be interesting to see how his legs really are.
Judah was the closest to pacquaios speed and Floyd had all sorts of issues for 5 rounds till Judah stopped throwing, pacquaio won't stop
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Pureist wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:
Pureist wrote:KBB pacquaio will be fighting off floyds LH shoulder staying away from his right, you surely don't think he will fight at floyds distance do you? That would be naive, pacquaio is the first fighter that I can remember floyd fighting that constantly moves, everyone else has been a sitting duck or cannon fodder

:TU:


They act like Pacquiao only is a come forward fighter like Hatton.

But Floyd has fought a few movers here and there (Judah, Mosley, to an extent, Marquez) just hasn't fought any in a while and would be interesting to see how his legs really are.
Judah was the closest to pacquaios speed and Floyd had all sorts of issues for 5 rounds till Judah stopped throwing, pacquaio won't stop

There is usually a reason why Floyd's opponents slow their output of punches as the fight goes on, and Judah is a good example of that. There is a reason Oscar's jab went away too. Mosley said Floyd is faster than Pacquiao, and has equal power compared to Canelo. He said Pac's punches don't have the same force as Floyd or Canelo, but have a lot of "snap"...he said it is hard to explain.

Pacquiao says his advantage is speed, but that is debatable. I think the guy with the better ring IQ, defense, ability to adjust, etc will win this fight. There is more than throwing fast combinations...you have to have the footwork to go along with it to be accurate. Getting your feet in place to punch at the right time is under-rated. Pac still has a reckless type of aggression at times. If he stays back and boxes, he will get clowned by Floyd. This fight won't be won by speed or punching power. It will be won by timing, footwork, and precision punching. If Pacquiao is smart, he will use his work rate to his advantage, and try to steal some rounds with that.

Floyd UD 117-111 or TKO between the 9th-12th
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Tell me the last time you can remember Floyd hitting a moving boxer, he doesn't, he throws at motionless boxers that are flat footed, potshoting with between 1-3 punches, the one thing Floyd should have taken out of the maidana fight was that if an opponent is throwing nonstop at you, a percentage of those will land when you are trapped against the ropes, that percentage will depend on how fast and accurate your opponent is, pacquaio and maidana only have one thing in common, they are both awkward non conventional punchers, now ask yourself, who of those 2 is faster and more accurate, as for Judah, looked like he wasn't fit going into their fight, nothing Floyd landed in the first 5 rounds hurt him to stop him throwing fast accurate shots like he did in the first 5, Floyd didn't know where half of those shots came from, nice flash KD that the ref didn't pay aswell
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