Tyson Fury has been carefully matched

[sucracristo]

coasted through that one. different classes altogether.
fury looked like he took a lot of weight off and had quicker feet and hands and switched
righty to lefty and back like a welter. he just grabbed the mic and sang walking in memphis
and called out klitschko at the end. i'd rather see him fight wilder

[crusader]

+1 I Think that's fair too, but equally fair of others ranked 2-2000

I don't think it's equally fair. In my opinion everyone on his record was either clearly out of their depth going into the bout (such as the Brazilian) or tailor-made for him, the latter being the case in the fights he gets the most credit for. I'm not saying that most others aren't matched carefully at times, but to me Fury's team have found a particularly good balance of and kept him active against opponents who were relatively highly ranked while not being especially dangerous, and it's not as if it's a GGG like case where he's so good that no one at the weight would be a notable threat.

[coneye]

Its all hype and bullshit ,,, I just watched the fight , and could'nt believe the crap coming out of his uncles mouth and the commentators mouth .. Tysons a great boxer Tysons got great footwork ..

I WOULD USE FURY HAS AN EXAMPLE TO BEGINERS OF WHAT NOT TO DO ,, HE FIGHTS ORTHODOX ,, he moves his right leg left before he moves his left leg , BASIC mistakes , he gets his feet tangled , , he has his hands low and stumbles to his left , a big right hand waiting to happen .

He fights Southpaw , his feet under pressure are tangled , and he moves back in a straight line ,, double up the punches and watch him tangle his feet and turn his head .

OK , it can be said why has he not been beat , EASY answer , because he's too big for his opponents , they have all been too small and not talented enough to make him pay for his VERY BASIC mistakes .

BUT , when he fights a half decent guy his own size , he's a knock out waiting to happen . IF he fights Klitchko its gonna be the easiest night work for a long time for the big Ukrainian.

Klitchko , has decent footwork and a good jab , he will double up his punches , and move away when Tyson wants to grab and hold , Tyson will move back in a straight line and turn his head closing his eyes has he moves back , then get ktfo .

Whats with all this switch hitting bullshit , only guys with exceptional footwork should be doing that , , Tyson has'nt even mastered orthordox footwork yet , , carrys his hands low , turns his head and closes his eyes under pressure , moves into punches . tangles his own feet .

The only thing he has going for him is the guy is BIG and too hard for journymen type fighters to get close too , the day he fights someone his own size , it will be Klitchko and then he will retire with a healthy bank account and a sore jaw ,

But never the less he's still entertaining . . He should get the Klitchko fight take the money , take a break , then go to the states and get a trainer who is going to actually teach him to box , so he can fight anyone and see what happens from there ,

People say he's improved has he balls, the only improvement theres been is Peter Fuyrs ability to pick easy fights .

[sucracristo]

they have all been too small and not talented enough to make him pay

lol. well, duh...

BUT , when he fights a half decent guy his own size

uhhhhh, you mentioned kiltschko, not a "half decent" guy his size.
just name who the "half decent" guy is who is his size who will ko him.
to me "half decent" would be someone outside the top 10. if a guy is top 10 in
the world at something, that would make that guy at least 1,000x better at what he does
than the best you ever achieved at anything, correct?
tommy hearns was tall and fought with his hands down. did he suck, too?
fury is 6'9" with long legs and he moves very well for a heavyweight, especially
for someone his height, has fast hands for a heavyweight, controls the distance well,
fights righty and lefty equally well, and is improving every time out. i don't really
see anything inaccurate about what the announcers said. they actually said early on
he didn't look like he would be a high level fighter and he has improved a lot and now
looks like he could contend for a title at some point.

[Rodian]

what an oaf....looks like he's on stilts....lol

[tiny_acres]

they have all been too small and not talented enough to make him pay

lol. well, duh...

BUT , when he fights a half decent guy his own size

uhhhhh, you mentioned kiltschko, not a "half decent" guy his size.
just name who the "half decent" guy is who is his size who will ko him.
to me "half decent" would be someone outside the top 10. if a guy is top 10 in
the world at something, that would make that guy at least 1,000x better at what he does
than the best you ever achieved at anything, correct?
tommy hearns was tall and fought with his hands down. did he suck, too?
fury is 6'9" with long legs and he moves very well for a heavyweight, especially
for someone his height, has fast hands for a heavyweight, controls the distance well,
fights righty and lefty equally well, and is improving every time out. i don't really
see anything inaccurate about what the announcers said. they actually said early on
he didn't look like he would be a high level fighter and he has improved a lot and now
looks like he could contend for a title at some point.

Fury looks like a real contender and will give Wlad his toughest bout in years.
Looking so forward to it.

[coneye]

Against a heavy puncher the same size , if it ever happens ,, he'll close his eyes turn his head away and get KTFO



tommy hearns was tall and fought with his hands down. did he suck, too?.... nO HE DID NOT HE WAS BRILLIANT , HE ALSO FOUGHT GUYS WHO WERE EQUALLY TALENTED and proved his skills


fury is 6'9" with long legs and he moves very well for a heavyweight, especially
for someone his height, has fast hands for a heavyweight, controls the distance well,
fights righty and lefty equally well, and is improving every time out.

Only because he fights, stiff moving slow, undersize punch bags , and even then he's not safe he'll go down if they can fluke a shot that will reach him ,, moves well my ass , he tangles his own feet .

[tsmithy50]

Tyson Fury has avoided anyone who might be a threat.

- Tony Thompson offered to fight him several times, but Fury ignored his requests & chose smaller men.
- Fury was offered a final IBF eliminator vs. Kubrat Pulev, but said no
- Klitschko offered Fury a fight, but Fury's management said "not yet" and so Wladimir fought Wach
- Before Price fought Thompson, he wanted to fight Fury, but was avoided
- Fury pulled out of the fight with Ustinov after seeing Ustinov at the weigh-in

Fury's record is largely against small HWs and cruiserweights like Cunningham, who put him on the floor. Fury had to use dirty, illegal tactics to defeat Cunningham.

Now Fury is fighting a light-punching guy in Hammer, who has some boxing skills but is no real threat at all (never mind how the WBO ranks him, he's not really the third best heavyweight).

Prediction: Fury will avoid Deontay Wilder and Wladimir Klitschko, and then say they are ducking him.

Tyson Fury fan are we?

[Rodian]

Fury looks like a real contender and will give Wlad his toughest bout in years.
Looking so forward to it.

he looks like a Muhammad Ali out there against tomato cans LOL... flicking jabs, a variety of punches with his long reach, switching stances. thats all well and good and it almost looks impressive against bums

what i see is a clinch fest with Fury tiring out, missing wildly after he gets frustrated and getting his fat ass knocked out

[tiny_acres]

Fury looks like a real contender and will give Wlad his toughest bout in years.
Looking so forward to it.

he looks like a Muhammad Ali out there against tomato cans LOL... flicking jabs, a variety of punches with his long reach, switching stances. thats all well and good and it almost looks impressive against bums

what i see is a clinch fest with Fury tiring out, missing wildly after he gets frustrated and getting his fat ass knocked out

Wlad will be clinching worse than he did against Povetkin.

[Horse]

he looks like a Muhammad Ali out there against tomato cans LOL... flicking jabs, a variety of punches with his long reach, switching stances. thats all well and good and it almost looks impressive against bums

what i see is a clinch fest with Fury tiring out, missing wildly after he gets frustrated and getting his fat ass knocked out

Hammer was a top 20 ranked heavyweight.

[tiny_acres]

he looks like a Muhammad Ali out there against tomato cans LOL... flicking jabs, a variety of punches with his long reach, switching stances. thats all well and good and it almost looks impressive against bums

what i see is a clinch fest with Fury tiring out, missing wildly after he gets frustrated and getting his fat ass knocked out

Hammer was a top 20 ranked heavyweight.

The WBO had Hammer as the #3 contender.Even though I think it was some
sick joke.

[Rodian]

he looks like a Muhammad Ali out there against tomato cans LOL... flicking jabs, a variety of punches with his long reach, switching stances. thats all well and good and it almost looks impressive against bums

what i see is a clinch fest with Fury tiring out, missing wildly after he gets frustrated and getting his fat ass knocked out

Hammer was a top 20 ranked heavyweight.

now...thats just sad.

[Wales]

"tommy hearns was tall and fought with his hands down. did he suck, too?"

Charlie Chaplin was a small fella with a little black moustache under his nose, was he a psychopathic homicidal nutter who was invading Poland and killing millions of jews too?

Your logic is so flawed its unreal. Wouldn't mind if there was even a tiny similarity or relevance.

I wonder if anyone, ever, has made that comparison / analogy. I doubt it. which makes you the only person, out of 7.2billion on earth to think of it.

[Ian1973]

Fury is very under-rated by many. He's a superb technician, very skillful, fast hands, shots from all angles and from different stances, top lateral movement. If he can do what Wlad has done and develop the discipline to stay out of range and protect his chin he can beat anyone ............. except probably Wlad. Wlad has one thing Tyson doesn't have - one punch, knock out power.

[hurricanemitch14]

Comparing Fury to Tommy Hearns is flat out retarded.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Duh ... wait, Freedom bad-mouthing a loud-mouthed ignorant European white man?

Something is very fishy here.

[Wales]

Fury is also very overrated by many who seem to ignore glaring floors in the whole package that comes with him (attitude, lifestyle, quality and experience of team around him).
Unless im mistaken here. Are we talking about the Tyson Fury who hasnt fought anyone in the top 10 yet and has been put down by feather fisted HW Pajkic and the 36 year old cruiserweight Steve Cunningham?

[Ian1973]

Fury is also very overrated by many who seem to ignore glaring floors in the whole package that comes with him (attitude, lifestyle, quality and experience of team around him).
Unless im mistaken here. Are we talking about the Tyson Fury who hasnt fought anyone in the top 10 yet and has been put down by feather fisted HW Pajkic and the 36 year old cruiserweight Steve Cunningham?

I don't agree with what you define as "floors". I'm sure you mean "flaws".

Fury is a very good heavyweight. Yes he's had his wobbles on the way up, so did Wladimir but he's improved immensely in a short space of time. Only a complete ignoramus would rate Wlad the same fighter as the Wlad that got knocked out earlier in his career and Fury isn't the same boxer as he was earlier in his career either. Boxers do improve. Look at Mayweather he lost the first fight against Castillo. Even though the judges gave him the verdict the vast majority of people know he didn't win that fight but look what he's gone on to achieve since.

I'm not saying Fury will beat Klitschko and I'd slightly favour Wilder against him but Fury is a quality heavyweight nonetheless.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Fury is a quality heavyweight nonetheless.

Fury is a slow, top-heavy, uncoordinated fighter. Davis Haye would have shut him out. Wilder would knock him out very early.

[Wales]

Flaws, indeed - its 5am and been a long night.

Fury has improved, naturally. He was only a kid when he went pro. And I've never said he isn't a quality heavy weight. However. You cant improve a fighters chin, and Furys, when tested, has come up short. Twice. Ive not seen this vast improvement since Cunningham either? He had a gimmie fight then re-matched Chisora... And lets be honest, Del Boy was (is) shot.
I didn't see a boxing masterclass against an average opponent last night. He was consistently backed up against an opponent that he should, with his size and strength, dominate from the centre.
Fury hasn't fought anyone world class. Pulev, Povetkin, stiverne etc.. who are the step in between where he is and Wilder / Klitchko.

Also, how did Wlad improve? How did he make the change that probably saved his career? He went to Manny Steward, one of the greatest trainers of all time. Fury will never leave Uncle peter, a gypsy fighter and 0-1 pro.

[macaca]

With many flaws you'll get floored.....

He did the business again, I thought more that he was carrying a little excess weight than anything else, well that and why the fornicate he had Venezuela on the back of his shorts, (apologies for not knowing the history of this if there is any).

His age and due lack of respect for his 0 record will obviously keep Tyson near the top for the next 10 years I think.

You cannot throw the cherry picking bullshit at a fighter when they are mostly all at it. Plus who the fornicate is he supposed to fight the same shape, frame and height as him?

I think David Haye would have knacked him inside 6 back in the day, now it would be a lot closer I feel.

If you hate him, love him or don't give a fornicate he is undeniably a breathe of fresh air.

I think if he fights WK now he will lose, a few years more unless WK retires, he has a chance.

In 2016 Fury cannot not beat WK.

[606]

Fury is a big heavy guy with decent boxing skills, he needs to fight a couple of the guys that both Klitchko and Wilder have fought before he is deserving of either of those fights. Otherwise Fury will just be cashing out if he is lucky enough to get one of those guys

[Yes We Can]

Flaws, indeed - its 5am and been a long night.

Fury has improved, naturally. He was only a kid when he went pro. And I've never said he isn't a quality heavy weight. However. You cant improve a fighters chin, and Furys, when tested, has come up short. Twice. Ive not seen this vast improvement since Cunningham either? He had a gimmie fight then re-matched Chisora... And lets be honest, Del Boy was (is) shot.
I didn't see a boxing masterclass against an average opponent last night. He was consistently backed up against an opponent that he should, with his size and strength, dominate from the centre.
Fury hasn't fought anyone world class. Pulev, Povetkin, stiverne etc.. who are the step in between where he is and Wilder / Klitchko.

Also, how did Wlad improve? How did he make the change that probably saved his career? He went to Manny Steward, one of the greatest trainers of all time. Fury will never leave Uncle peter, a gypsy fighter and 0-1 pro.

Povetkin is more than just a step between, he is still number 2 in the division in my eyes. Pulev even after a shellacking against Wlad has a better resume than Wilder who is probably the number 3/4 HW in the world right now.

The only thing that irks me is people talking about Fury's handspeed. It is going to look non existent compared to Wladamirs who's speed of hand and foot was equal to that of David Haye. Fury's handspeed also does not negate the fact that his technique is very sloppy , especially with the jab from the southpaw stance (A punch i feel he should be warned about in fights).

His technique when under pressure actually hinders him when fighting these smaller men as they have to be a lot more wild to connect, had he fought bigger men he likely would look sharper defensively in my eyes.

[sucracristo]

"tommy hearns was tall and fought with his hands down. did he suck, too?"

Charlie Chaplin was a small fella with a little black moustache under his nose, was he a psychopathic homicidal nutter who was invading Poland and killing millions of jews too?

Your logic is so flawed its unreal. Wouldn't mind if there was even a tiny similarity or relevance.

I wonder if anyone, ever, has made that comparison / analogy. I doubt it. which makes you the only person, out of 7.2billion on earth to think of it.

you, sir, are obviously no boxing expert if you don't know that anyone who fights with his
hands down, like hearns, sucks. ali also sucked because he fought with his hands down.
fury also sucks because he fights with his hands down and is taller than his opponents.
"as soon as he fights another 6'9" guy with the same ability or better ranked in the top
10 in the world he will surely get knocked out, and that means he sucks."
you've just been educated