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Fat Git wrote:
Wake up call wrote:
kamicazze wrote:Noticed that Steve Collins was active in Frank buglionis corner on Saturday. How come the BBBofC have not taken his license as they have done with other MBC associates?
Because his position is just token with the MBC. They are just using his name to try and make themselves appear credible (and probably giving him a few quid). He might also be working the corner on an Irish license.
What I want to know is what the MBC are doing for boxing in Malta and the grassroots game there, what are they doing for Maltese boxing and boxers now? They have no shows there from what I can see and all they are doing is trying to siphon cash from the European circuit, they would have more credibility in my eyes if they were actually doing something for the game there. From what I can see, they are doing sweet F.A. He says he is from his opening statement, but what?
They are just using the name Malta to appear as though they are a legitimate national sanctioning body. It allows them to join international associations so they can appear to be credible to those that don't realise that they are really no different to the so-called unlicensed outfits (unlicensed only means non-BBBofC licensed anyway) such as the EBF and IBA. Look at their cards, they're full of white collar warriors and fat bouncers coupled with "pro" bouts featuring ex-cons and people who failed medicals with the board. MBC stands for Majorly Bogus Commission.

The funny thing is that while I don't like what they are doing, in a way I support it as I understand the laws that allow them to exist and the fact that the board is itself a self-appointed non-profit limited company by guarantee. However, I feel we need one strong governor as two many cooks spoil the broth and there's already too many titles and bogus champions.
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what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
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Alba wrote:what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
Another question is regarding to the medical and insurance applicable to the "white collar" fighters on their card.

Luca has attempted to pull the wool over people's eyes by focusing on the supposedly "pro" boxers on their cards, but a quick look around proves they only make up 50% of the cards. One would assume that the costs involved mean that a lesser provision is provided to those "white collar" (ie unlicensed) boxers on the cards.

Also, look at the venues they are using. One of the upcoming shows is in a nightclub where the room hosting the boxing is upstairs making it difficult to get boxers out quickly in the event of an accident. On top of that, the venue is on the corner of a main road with no parking facilities. Where is the ambulance going park?

The board would never allow a show at such a venue.
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spudder56 wrote:
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spudder56 wrote:Expe you are very clued up to be just a fan what is your involvement in the sport mate ?

A question for Mr di caro you say that you fund the MBC do you contribute money to the promotor to pay for the doctors and ambulance etc or is each promotor on a stand alone basis ? IMO if the promotor is on a stand alone basis the purses must be really low or else he would lose a fortune being sanctioned by the MBC
This question doesn't deserve an answer as it is clearly intended as a wind-up - So please explain why you think that a promoter would lose a fortune on MBC sanctioned events and not on BBBofC ones, when our medical requirements and their costs for an MBC sanctioned event are the same as for a BBBofC event - as are the boxers purses also.
It's not a wind up mate if boxers are getting as good if not better purses than board shows then obviously you will do well so best of luck to you
In that case I do apologise for making that comment
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Wake up call wrote:Hardly covering yourself in glory here Rio.

Suz Member is the worst boxer I have ever seen and YOU ALLOWED HIM TO BOX ON YOUR SHOW. How do you justify that?

There's an old saying, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and by going on about Flintoff (who is 1 million times better than Member), you are throwing stones.

Your recent "pro" show in Leeds was in a working mens club and the undercard was filled with unlicensed white collar bouncers. Yet, you try to make out you're some legitimate organisation. Even your wikipedia has been marked for deletion because it's full of nonsense written by yourself.

Your MBC is no different to what the EBF, IBA etc have being doing for years. The only difference is you have managed to tag on to a few international bodies to give yourselves pseudo credibility to those too stupid to know the difference.

Organisations like yours a threat to the future of British boxing, not the saviour of it.

As yet, you are yet to sanction ANY genuine 50/50 contests and your cards are full of people who have been refused licenses by legitimate sanctioning organisations.

Your attitude that people "need to get their facts right" just puts you in a bad light as many on here know much more than you give them credit for.
Sorry for the late reply.

Regarding the Suz Member question - as I have already said we didn't license him, Tanzania did, so just like when the BBBofC or any other sanctioning organisation receive a request for the boxer to fight we are only able to go on the information provided, the Tanzanian's verified his medical standing as well as that he was fit to box, sorry but unless he has applied for a license with ourselves we would never have known of his abilities, we can only go on the information provided by his licensing organisation.

I'm afraid I haven't been going on about Flintoff, someone asked the question and I answered it honestly.

Yes, as an organisation we are happy to work with other organisations if it helps the promoter to make a successful event - in this case we were due to sanction four pro bouts, however only one actually ended up taking place, and the EBF sanctioned the other bouts.

From day one Malta Boxing Commission had to operate this way in Malta, as there were only two pros on the Islands, so when we are approached to similar here we are happy to do so.

The Wikipedia listing has been listed for deletion from day one as it was written by myself and of course it includes my name as one of the founders and as such they see it as a conflict.

as the next two are comments and not questions I'll pass on those.

On the fifty/fifty fights I had covered in an earlier discussion what has been happening but saying that I think it would be fair to say that Antonio Counihan's upcoming bout is close to being a fifty/fifty - now we just have to see if we can hold on to it.

Friday 20 March 2015

Central Hall, Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
commission: Malta Boxing Commission
inspector: Gianluca Di Caro
promoter: Stephen Vaughan (Stephen Vaughan Promotion)
division boxer W-L-D opponent W-L-D

lightweight Antonio Counihan 5(4)-0-0 SC Michal Dufek 14(9)-9(2)-1 8x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


bantamweight Tasif Khan 8(2)-1-2 SC Patrik Bartos 3(2)-3(2)-0 6x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


super bantamweight Paul Economides 15(2)-5(2)-0 SC TBA 6x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


light heavyweight Nick Quigley 11-2(1)-0 SC TBA 4x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


featherweight David Agadzhanyan 3(3)-0-0 SC TBA 4x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


featherweight Jay Carney 1(1)-0-0 SC Petr Gyna 5(5)-26(20)-1 4x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


light heavyweight Lee Boyce 0-1-0 SC Vladimir Fecko 9(1)-73(33)-3 4x3

bout subject to change & commission approval


middleweight Scott McIntyre debut SC TBA 4x3

Pro debut for McIntyre.
bout subject to change & commission approval
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50/50 :OhYes:

Dufek, who has lost every time he's boxed in this country and two fights ago was KOed by a guy with a record of 2-14-1.

And you didn't answer why you are allowing an event at an unsuitable venue, or why you are claiming to be a proper commission and yet are permitting "white collar" bouts on your cards.

On top of that, your Suz Member excuse is incredibly lame.

Oh and doesn't the guy you used to be involved with at the MBC claim that your body is merely a UK company set up by yourself and has no real connection to Malta? I believe he said that your only connection was one visit that lasted 24 hours.

And isn't Zafraan Mushtaq due to appear on one of your shows? You are aware that he had his board license pulled after just one fight because he was that bad.
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Fat Git wrote:
Wake up call wrote:
kamicazze wrote:Noticed that Steve Collins was active in Frank buglionis corner on Saturday. How come the BBBofC have not taken his license as they have done with other MBC associates?
Because his position is just token with the MBC. They are just using his name to try and make themselves appear credible (and probably giving him a few quid). He might also be working the corner on an Irish license.
What I want to know is what the MBC are doing for boxing in Malta and the grassroots game there, what are they doing for Maltese boxing and boxers now? They have no shows there from what I can see and all they are doing is trying to siphon cash from the European circuit, they would have more credibility in my eyes if they were actually doing something for the game there. From what I can see, they are doing sweet F.A. He says he is from his opening statement, but what?
In 2014 we sanctioned twelve events, seven of these were in Malta and five were in the UK.

In 2015 we anticipate at least ten events in Malta and around forty in the UK
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Alba wrote:what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
No, MBC officials will be undertaking all duties for the pro boxing and WKA for kickboxing

When events are sanctioned by the MBC it is on our insurance, if there is any kick boxing element on the event then that would be on the WKA insurance.

I know - so is Northern Ireland! I didn't notice I still had UK in the heading before I hit submit!
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Wake up call wrote:50/50 :OhYes:

Dufek, who has lost every time he's boxed in this country and two fights ago was KOed by a guy with a record of 2-14-1.

And you didn't answer why you are allowing an event at an unsuitable venue, or why you are claiming to be a proper commission and yet are permitting "white collar" bouts on your cards.

On top of that, your Suz Member excuse is incredibly lame.

Oh and doesn't the guy you used to be involved with at the MBC claim that your body is merely a UK company set up by yourself and has no real connection to Malta? I believe he said that your only connection was one visit that lasted 24 hours.

And isn't Zafraan Mushtaq due to appear on one of your shows? You are aware that he had his board license pulled after just one fight because he was that bad.
Remember zafraan very well
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Wake up call wrote:
Alba wrote:what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
Another question is regarding to the medical and insurance applicable to the "white collar" fighters on their card.

Luca has attempted to pull the wool over people's eyes by focusing on the supposedly "pro" boxers on their cards, but a quick look around proves they only make up 50% of the cards. One would assume that the costs involved mean that a lesser provision is provided to those "white collar" (ie unlicensed) boxers on the cards.

Also, look at the venues they are using. One of the upcoming shows is in a nightclub where the room hosting the boxing is upstairs making it difficult to get boxers out quickly in the event of an accident. On top of that, the venue is on the corner of a main road with no parking facilities. Where is the ambulance going park?

The board would never allow a show at such a venue.

As I have stated on my previous replies to you, we only sanction and insure the pro element, the white collar element is sanctioned and insured by another organisation such as the EBF, IBA or similar

We have only had two events in the UK where we have sanctioned the pro element and the EBF have sanctioned the white collar element all other events have been full pro shows - for anyone that wants confirmation on that it is all readily available here on BoxRec or FightFax or see the results page on our website http://www.maltaboxingcommission.com

There have been numerous boxing events at this venue, the Ambulance is positioned in the venue's loading area which provides direct unrestricted access to the actual area where the boxing takes place.
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LucaDiCaro wrote:
Wake up call wrote:
Alba wrote:what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
Another question is regarding to the medical and insurance applicable to the "white collar" fighters on their card.

Luca has attempted to pull the wool over people's eyes by focusing on the supposedly "pro" boxers on their cards, but a quick look around proves they only make up 50% of the cards. One would assume that the costs involved mean that a lesser provision is provided to those "white collar" (ie unlicensed) boxers on the cards.

Also, look at the venues they are using. One of the upcoming shows is in a nightclub where the room hosting the boxing is upstairs making it difficult to get boxers out quickly in the event of an accident. On top of that, the venue is on the corner of a main road with no parking facilities. Where is the ambulance going park?

The board would never allow a show at such a venue.

As I have stated on my previous replies to you, we only sanction and insure the pro element, the white collar element is sanctioned and insured by another organisation such as the EBF, IBA or similar

We have only had two events in the UK where we have sanctioned the pro element and the EBF have sanctioned the white collar element all other events have been full pro shows - for anyone that wants confirmation on that it is all readily available here on BoxRec or FightFax or see the results page on our website http://www.maltaboxingcommission.com

There have been numerous boxing events at this venue, the Ambulance is positioned in the venue's loading area which provides direct unrestricted access to the actual area where the boxing takes place.
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Read this from Alex Zammitt in 2012. He now runs the Maltese Boxing Council in Malta. Neither of these bodies are part of the EBU as their past membership was revoked.

"Gianluca it is time to address you directly and personally in front of the world.

"Yes it is entirely true that when I formed the Malta Boxing Commission you were invited to join me in Ireland for the affiliation meeting but time and situations change and at a later stage our members have become unhappy with a VP that they have never met and they only hear about in his statements and promises which never materialise. Thus for this and reasons explained before they decided to remove you as this is their right.

"These are facts which have been decided by others and which you have to be man enough to except.

"Now for your claims about being a director of Malta Boxing Commission Ltd – The Malta Boxing Commission in Malta (MBC) has absolutely no connection to this company – This is a company which you formed in the UK and which you went so far as to use a document issued by a championship sanctioning body of provisional membership without authorization to do so – you Gianluca are the only director of this company and the copy of the receipt is attached as can be seen from the receipt you are the sole owner with no connection to the MBC in Malta and the MBC in Malta are presently in the process of complaining to the authorities in the UK to either make you dissolve this company or change the name. Because you formed a company called the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK without any form of documentation from the MBC does not give you right or privileges over the MBC in Malta in any way – So if today I registered a company in Malta & named it WBC ltd would that give me the right to boss Dr. Sulaiman around? – I think not! And the same applies for that company which you formed in England.

"From what I can see you are determined to try to take over the Malta Boxing Commission by any means or tactic – let us see: you formed the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK and the UK TKO Promotions registered to a member of your extended family, TKO boxing gym & have I seen TKO Ireland anywhere on the net? And you want to be the VP of a boxing commission which is situated in an Island which you have visited once for less than 24 hours. You know what Gianluca why do we not just make you prime minister of Malta!!! It seems that what you are attempting is to close a circle that if allowed would give you a position of unprecedented power in the boxing world to license boxers and officials at will, also to control both the officiating and business side of boxing."
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Wake up call wrote:Read this from Alex Zammitt in 2012. He now runs the Maltese Boxing Council in Malta. Neither of these bodies are part of the EBU as their past membership was revoked.

"Gianluca it is time to address you directly and personally in front of the world.

"Yes it is entirely true that when I formed the Malta Boxing Commission you were invited to join me in Ireland for the affiliation meeting but time and situations change and at a later stage our members have become unhappy with a VP that they have never met and they only hear about in his statements and promises which never materialise. Thus for this and reasons explained before they decided to remove you as this is their right.

"These are facts which have been decided by others and which you have to be man enough to except.

"Now for your claims about being a director of Malta Boxing Commission Ltd – The Malta Boxing Commission in Malta (MBC) has absolutely no connection to this company – This is a company which you formed in the UK and which you went so far as to use a document issued by a championship sanctioning body of provisional membership without authorization to do so – you Gianluca are the only director of this company and the copy of the receipt is attached as can be seen from the receipt you are the sole owner with no connection to the MBC in Malta and the MBC in Malta are presently in the process of complaining to the authorities in the UK to either make you dissolve this company or change the name. Because you formed a company called the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK without any form of documentation from the MBC does not give you right or privileges over the MBC in Malta in any way – So if today I registered a company in Malta & named it WBC ltd would that give me the right to boss Dr. Sulaiman around? – I think not! And the same applies for that company which you formed in England.

"From what I can see you are determined to try to take over the Malta Boxing Commission by any means or tactic – let us see: you formed the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK and the UK TKO Promotions registered to a member of your extended family, TKO boxing gym & have I seen TKO Ireland anywhere on the net? And you want to be the VP of a boxing commission which is situated in an Island which you have visited once for less than 24 hours. You know what Gianluca why do we not just make you prime minister of Malta!!! It seems that what you are attempting is to close a circle that if allowed would give you a position of unprecedented power in the boxing world to license boxers and officials at will, also to control both the officiating and business side of boxing."
Wake up call sounds like you are a member of the board mate
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spudder56 wrote:
Wake up call wrote:Read this from Alex Zammitt in 2012. He now runs the Maltese Boxing Council in Malta. Neither of these bodies are part of the EBU as their past membership was revoked.

"Gianluca it is time to address you directly and personally in front of the world.

"Yes it is entirely true that when I formed the Malta Boxing Commission you were invited to join me in Ireland for the affiliation meeting but time and situations change and at a later stage our members have become unhappy with a VP that they have never met and they only hear about in his statements and promises which never materialise. Thus for this and reasons explained before they decided to remove you as this is their right.

"These are facts which have been decided by others and which you have to be man enough to except.

"Now for your claims about being a director of Malta Boxing Commission Ltd – The Malta Boxing Commission in Malta (MBC) has absolutely no connection to this company – This is a company which you formed in the UK and which you went so far as to use a document issued by a championship sanctioning body of provisional membership without authorization to do so – you Gianluca are the only director of this company and the copy of the receipt is attached as can be seen from the receipt you are the sole owner with no connection to the MBC in Malta and the MBC in Malta are presently in the process of complaining to the authorities in the UK to either make you dissolve this company or change the name. Because you formed a company called the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK without any form of documentation from the MBC does not give you right or privileges over the MBC in Malta in any way – So if today I registered a company in Malta & named it WBC ltd would that give me the right to boss Dr. Sulaiman around? – I think not! And the same applies for that company which you formed in England.

"From what I can see you are determined to try to take over the Malta Boxing Commission by any means or tactic – let us see: you formed the Malta Boxing Commission Ltd in the UK and the UK TKO Promotions registered to a member of your extended family, TKO boxing gym & have I seen TKO Ireland anywhere on the net? And you want to be the VP of a boxing commission which is situated in an Island which you have visited once for less than 24 hours. You know what Gianluca why do we not just make you prime minister of Malta!!! It seems that what you are attempting is to close a circle that if allowed would give you a position of unprecedented power in the boxing world to license boxers and officials at will, also to control both the officiating and business side of boxing."
Wake up call sounds like you are a member of the board mate
Nope, just someone who cares enough to stop the charlatans from conning the public with their unlicensed shows and bogus titles.
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LucaDiCaro wrote:
Wake up call wrote:
Alba wrote:what i would like to know is that you are saying in Scotland you are going to be putting on shows that have kick boxing under WKA (funny the guy who runs it in Scotland is the same as the guy who is representing Malta up here) will you have the same officials for both codes?

how does the insurance work for the boxers for the show? are they covered by MBC, or by the WKA? Reason i ask is cause i seen WKA representatives officiating over unlincsed shows up here and i think ( and i could be wrong) that the Boxers are being covered by the WKA insurence ....

Plus in your title, you have UK and Scotland, scotland is part of the UK .... :TU:
Another question is regarding to the medical and insurance applicable to the "white collar" fighters on their card.

Luca has attempted to pull the wool over people's eyes by focusing on the supposedly "pro" boxers on their cards, but a quick look around proves they only make up 50% of the cards. One would assume that the costs involved mean that a lesser provision is provided to those "white collar" (ie unlicensed) boxers on the cards.

Also, look at the venues they are using. One of the upcoming shows is in a nightclub where the room hosting the boxing is upstairs making it difficult to get boxers out quickly in the event of an accident. On top of that, the venue is on the corner of a main road with no parking facilities. Where is the ambulance going park?

The board would never allow a show at such a venue.

As I have stated on my previous replies to you, we only sanction and insure the pro element, the white collar element is sanctioned and insured by another organisation such as the EBF, IBA or similar

We have only had two events in the UK where we have sanctioned the pro element and the EBF have sanctioned the white collar element all other events have been full pro shows - for anyone that wants confirmation on that it is all readily available here on BoxRec or FightFax or see the results page on our website http://www.maltaboxingcommission.com

There have been numerous boxing events at this venue, the Ambulance is positioned in the venue's loading area which provides direct unrestricted access to the actual area where the boxing takes place.
What drivel.

I spent half my student life in that very nightclub. The main room is on the second floor and the only area leading out is to balcony that is at least 30 feet above street level. The back of the nightclub is built onto a shopping centre and the only parking is a multi story at least 500 yards away.

All those past events you mentioned were unlicensed. The BBBofC has never sanctioned a show there and never will as it does not meet the board's requirements.

Just because you get a few fights from "white collar" filled shows on BoxRec does not making you a legitimate organisation. The EBF (your buddies) could easily do the exact same thing if it wished.
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Wake up call wrote:50/50 :OhYes:

Dufek, who has lost every time he's boxed in this country and two fights ago was KOed by a guy with a record of 2-14-1.

And you didn't answer why you are allowing an event at an unsuitable venue, or why you are claiming to be a proper commission and yet are permitting "white collar" bouts on your cards.

On top of that, your Suz Member excuse is incredibly lame.

Oh and doesn't the guy you used to be involved with at the MBC claim that your body is merely a UK company set up by yourself and has no real connection to Malta? I believe he said that your only connection was one visit that lasted 24 hours.

And isn't Zafraan Mushtaq due to appear on one of your shows? You are aware that he had his board license pulled after just one fight because he was that bad.

The BBBofC felt Dufek was a good enough opponent for John Wayne Hibbert (12-2 at the time) for a ten round Masters title in July last year, so why would we not feel he wouldn't be OK for Antonio.

I have answered about the venue

I have answered the question regarding Suz Member, it's clear by your posts that no matter what I answer you will disagree with it.

What do you expect - Mr Zammit to be over the moon that I sacked him! Of course not he is going to try everything he can to put out a case for some form of wrongdoing, not being funny most people would do the same - I can't understand why you choose to just post his side of the story, especially as both sides of the argument are out there, and it was for a very serious matter that he was removed from his position.

I understand that Zafraan Mushtaq has been proposed for the 29th March event, I am not aware of that, as he is boxing on a license from another federation.
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LucaDiCaro wrote:
Wake up call wrote:50/50 :OhYes:

Dufek, who has lost every time he's boxed in this country and two fights ago was KOed by a guy with a record of 2-14-1.

And you didn't answer why you are allowing an event at an unsuitable venue, or why you are claiming to be a proper commission and yet are permitting "white collar" bouts on your cards.

On top of that, your Suz Member excuse is incredibly lame.

Oh and doesn't the guy you used to be involved with at the MBC claim that your body is merely a UK company set up by yourself and has no real connection to Malta? I believe he said that your only connection was one visit that lasted 24 hours.

And isn't Zafraan Mushtaq due to appear on one of your shows? You are aware that he had his board license pulled after just one fight because he was that bad.

The BBBofC felt Dufek was a good enough opponent for John Wayne Hibbert (12-2 at the time) for a ten round Masters title in July last year, so why would we not feel he wouldn't be OK for Antonio.

I have answered about the venue

I have answered the question regarding Suz Member, it's clear by your posts that no matter what I answer you will disagree with it.

What do you expect - Mr Zammit to be over the moon that I sacked him! Of course not he is going to try everything he can to put out a case for some form of wrongdoing, not being funny most people would do the same - I can't understand why you choose to just post his side of the story, especially as both sides of the argument are out there, and it was for a very serious matter that he was removed from his position.

I understand that Zafraan Mushtaq has been proposed for the 29th March event, I am not aware of that, as he is boxing on a license from another federation.
All you have done is attempt to swerve the questions.

You allowed Suz Member (the worst boxer ever) to fight on YOUR show - FACT

Your company is UK registered and those in Malta, who were sanctioning shows long before you came along, do not recognise you as being their national body - FACT

You allow unskilled, unlicensed bouncers to box on your shows (whether they are EBF or whatever is irrelevant as they are still on shows you have sanctioned, with your licensed promoters and their posters carry YOUR logo) - FACT

You license ex-cons who are unable to get a BBBofC license - FACT

You license boxers who have failed medical procedures with the board - FACT

You allow shows at venues that would NEVER be accepted by the board for safety reasons - FACT

Board may have allowed Dufak to box. That's fine. But they never went on a public forum claiming it was a 50/50 contest - FACT
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Post by spudder56 »

Dont get excited wake up call if they are not making money on these shows they will soon call it a day but some other body will appear looking for a few quid to sanction shows/belts etc it's always been that way mate
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Post by JimJim2009 »

If I ever form my own boxing commission I'm not telling any of you guys :lol:
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Post by LucaDiCaro »

Wake up call wrote:
LucaDiCaro wrote:
Wake up call wrote:50/50 :OhYes:

Dufek, who has lost every time he's boxed in this country and two fights ago was KOed by a guy with a record of 2-14-1.

And you didn't answer why you are allowing an event at an unsuitable venue, or why you are claiming to be a proper commission and yet are permitting "white collar" bouts on your cards.

On top of that, your Suz Member excuse is incredibly lame.

Oh and doesn't the guy you used to be involved with at the MBC claim that your body is merely a UK company set up by yourself and has no real connection to Malta? I believe he said that your only connection was one visit that lasted 24 hours.

And isn't Zafraan Mushtaq due to appear on one of your shows? You are aware that he had his board license pulled after just one fight because he was that bad.

The BBBofC felt Dufek was a good enough opponent for John Wayne Hibbert (12-2 at the time) for a ten round Masters title in July last year, so why would we not feel he wouldn't be OK for Antonio.

I have answered about the venue

I have answered the question regarding Suz Member, it's clear by your posts that no matter what I answer you will disagree with it.

What do you expect - Mr Zammit to be over the moon that I sacked him! Of course not he is going to try everything he can to put out a case for some form of wrongdoing, not being funny most people would do the same - I can't understand why you choose to just post his side of the story, especially as both sides of the argument are out there, and it was for a very serious matter that he was removed from his position.

I understand that Zafraan Mushtaq has been proposed for the 29th March event, I am not aware of that, as he is boxing on a license from another federation.
All you have done is attempt to swerve the questions.

You allowed Suz Member (the worst boxer ever) to fight on YOUR show - FACT

Your company is UK registered and those in Malta, who were sanctioning shows long before you came along, do not recognise you as being their national body - FACT

You allow unskilled, unlicensed bouncers to box on your shows (whether they are EBF or whatever is irrelevant as they are still on shows you have sanctioned, with your licensed promoters and their posters carry YOUR logo) - FACT

You license ex-cons who are unable to get a BBBofC license - FACT

You license boxers who have failed medical procedures with the board - FACT

You allow shows at venues that would NEVER be accepted by the board for safety reasons - FACT

Board may have allowed Dufak to box. That's fine. But they never went on a public forum claiming it was a 50/50 contest - FACT
I haven't swerved a single question and it is clear by this post that no matter what I say you are not even interested in listening.
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Post by Wake up call »

Luca. I know fully well what you are and what you doing.

All you are doing is what Bruce Baker told me he was going to (and has to some extent) at the board's EGM in 2011.

Also you claim you sacked Alex Zammitt, but he was involved in the EBU link-up in 2011 and your company wasn't registered until August 2012.
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Post by expe »

LucaDiCaro wrote:
Wake up call wrote:
LucaDiCaro wrote:
The BBBofC felt Dufek was a good enough opponent for John Wayne Hibbert (12-2 at the time) for a ten round Masters title in July last year, so why would we not feel he wouldn't be OK for Antonio.

I have answered about the venue

I have answered the question regarding Suz Member, it's clear by your posts that no matter what I answer you will disagree with it.

What do you expect - Mr Zammit to be over the moon that I sacked him! Of course not he is going to try everything he can to put out a case for some form of wrongdoing, not being funny most people would do the same - I can't understand why you choose to just post his side of the story, especially as both sides of the argument are out there, and it was for a very serious matter that he was removed from his position.

I understand that Zafraan Mushtaq has been proposed for the 29th March event, I am not aware of that, as he is boxing on a license from another federation.
All you have done is attempt to swerve the questions.

You allowed Suz Member (the worst boxer ever) to fight on YOUR show - FACT

Your company is UK registered and those in Malta, who were sanctioning shows long before you came along, do not recognise you as being their national body - FACT

You allow unskilled, unlicensed bouncers to box on your shows (whether they are EBF or whatever is irrelevant as they are still on shows you have sanctioned, with your licensed promoters and their posters carry YOUR logo) - FACT

You license ex-cons who are unable to get a BBBofC license - FACT

You license boxers who have failed medical procedures with the board - FACT

You allow shows at venues that would NEVER be accepted by the board for safety reasons - FACT

Board may have allowed Dufak to box. That's fine. But they never went on a public forum claiming it was a 50/50 contest - FACT
I haven't swerved a single question and it is clear by this post that no matter what I say you are not even interested in listening.
Explain to us how Suz Member was fit to box professionally? I'm not talking medically, I'm talking about skill. No bullshit about the Tanzanian license, there's more than enough footage of his unlicensed fights on youtube to show you that he has no place in a boxing ring.
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Post by Wake up call »

expe wrote:Explain to us how Suz Member was fit to box professionally? I'm not talking medically, I'm talking about skill. No bullshit about the Tanzanian license, there's more than enough footage of his unlicensed fights on youtube to show you that he has no place in a boxing ring.
When Luca is stumped by logical questions.

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Post by Mimmy »

Luca

I was almost going to side with your body, as I think everyone deserves a chance in life or sport what ever their intentions are until someone comes along and proves that the body or company is actually doing something unjust. I am now back on the fence but falling towards the side you do not want me to fall. Im not suggesting for any second that you lot are upto no good but 'expe' has brought up some good points.

Something I never thought about until expe brought it up, is the word 'Malta' I presumed you were a Maltese boxing commission but as it seems you are registered in the UK what actual connections do you have in Malta? Is this one of those tax dodging loop holes such as all these UK registered online casinos that are registered in Gibraltar? So why are you a Maltese boxing commission?

Going onto security, are all your security guards licenced by the SIA in the UK that are employed on your doors?

Also another point made by expe if a british boxer fails any medical subjected by the BBBoC would you or have you allowed them to fight on your show knowing that they have failed medicals? Lets be fair here, if medicals are failed this is for the benefit for a boxer, isnt it?
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