MALTA BOXING COMMISSION - UK, SCOTLAND & IRELAND SANCTIONING

[Wake up call]

Luca

I was almost going to side with your body, as I think everyone deserves a chance in life or sport what ever their intentions are until someone comes along and proves that the body or company is actually doing something unjust. I am now back on the fence but falling towards the side you do not want me to fall. Im not suggesting for any second that you lot are upto no good but 'expe' has brought up some good points.

Something I never thought about until expe brought it up, is the word 'Malta' I presumed you were a Maltese boxing commission but as it seems you are registered in the UK what actual connections do you have in Malta? Is this one of those tax dodging loop holes such as all these UK registered online casinos that are registered in Gibraltar? So why are you a Maltese boxing commission?

Going onto security, are all your security guards licenced by the SIA in the UK that are employed on your doors?

Also another point made by expe if a british boxer fails any medical subjected by the BBBoC would you or have you allowed them to fight on your show knowing that they have failed medicals? Lets be fair here, if medicals are failed this is for the benefit for a boxer, isnt it?

Antonio Counihan, Nathan Decastro, George Hillyard and Iain Weaver have all appeared on MBC shows after failing medicals with the board.

Hillyard and Lee Churcher are also ineligible for board licenses due to unspent criminal convictions.

[LucaDiCaro]

Explain to us how Suz Member was fit to box professionally? I'm not talking medically, I'm talking about skill. No bullshit about the Tanzanian license, there's more than enough footage of his unlicensed fights on youtube to show you that he has no place in a boxing ring.

When Luca is stumped by logical questions.

So you are saying that when a foreign licensed boxer is added to an event that you expect that the home sanctioning organisation should go searching on youtube for their previous fights?

Do the BBBofC or any other sanctioning organisation do that? - the answer is a big NO

[LucaDiCaro]

Luca

I was almost going to side with your body, as I think everyone deserves a chance in life or sport what ever their intentions are until someone comes along and proves that the body or company is actually doing something unjust. I am now back on the fence but falling towards the side you do not want me to fall. Im not suggesting for any second that you lot are upto no good but 'expe' has brought up some good points.

Something I never thought about until expe brought it up, is the word 'Malta' I presumed you were a Maltese boxing commission but as it seems you are registered in the UK what actual connections do you have in Malta? Is this one of those tax dodging loop holes such as all these UK registered online casinos that are registered in Gibraltar? So why are you a Maltese boxing commission?

Going onto security, are all your security guards licenced by the SIA in the UK that are employed on your doors?

Also another point made by expe if a british boxer fails any medical subjected by the BBBoC would you or have you allowed them to fight on your show knowing that they have failed medicals? Lets be fair here, if medicals are failed this is for the benefit for a boxer, isnt it?

Alex Zammit and Myself created the Malta Boxing Commission at the request of the European Boxing Union in June 2011. I think that these articles will answer any of the questions you may have on the origins of the MBC as well as the reasons for the removal from office of Mr Zammit in 2012 and the appointment of a new President shortly after.

http://fightnetwork.com/news/11562:ebu- ... ommission/

http://philboxing.com/news/story-76663.html

http://neutralcorneronline.com/neutral- ... ommission/

http://www.proboxing-fans.com/malta-box ... on_102612/


I'm pleased you bought up about security as currently it is not the responsibility of the sanctioning organisation to arrange the security for an event - which we actually disagree with.

At this time we have a list of recognised SIA security companies and advise the promoters to only use those on the list, but in light of a few nasty incidents recently (incidently all of which that were on events sanctioned by the BBBofC) we will be looking at the possibility of it being ourselves which appoint the security, as we do with Doctors and medical coverage.

However, it has already been pointed out to us that we could be left open to allegations of favoritism to certain organisations or worse, so honestly don't know if it will happen or not as that is a decision for the whole executive committee.

Yes we have licensed some people who had their license suspended by or refused by the BBBofC, incidently we have refused to license even more than we have licensed - It is very easy for Expe or Wake Up Call to make the comments they do, as they do not know the facts, choose to ignore them or use them out of context.

When someone makes an application to the MBC they are required to undertake a full medical, blood screening and MRI/MRA scans. Once completed the Chief Medical officer checks that everything is correct, which if they are a license is issued.

We are fully aware that there are a number of people who have licenses with us that had 'failed' with the BBBofC, however in each case this is because either the so called issue didn't exist, as is the case on the examples below, or the BBBofC had ignored expert opinion, as in the case of Iain Weaver (see below)

WE WERE NOT AWARE that this particular boxer had been REFUSED having his BBBofC license renewed due to an irregularity on the MRI scan - Please note that we have a contract with In-Health the same company that undertake scans on behalf of the BBBofC.

We arranged for his medicals, blood screening and MRI/MRA all of which came back perfect, when I told him this, only then did he tell us that the board said he failed his MRI.

I personally advised him that he should go back to the BBBofC with the reports, which he did, however the BBBofC refused to review his case.

This is also the case on another boxer we licensed, however in his case it was that the BBBofC had said their were irregularities on his blood screening - again when he applied to us all the medicals, blood screening and MRI were all perfect. As with the previous boxer we advised that he discusses this with the BBBofC, which he did but as with the other case they refused to review his case.

I did discuss points on one of those that may cause the most concern (Iain Weaver) in the original post, Now rather than explain once more please read Iain's open letter to the BBBofC and please take note of what has been said by the four neurologists http://ringnews24.com/index.php/world-b ... of-control

I would ask that you read the preamble of the original post as I make clear that Iain is not just licensed by the Malta Boxing Commission but also Nevada (yes the same Nevada that will sanction Mayweather-Paquiao on May 2nd), California, Florida, New Jersey, Canada and Mexico.

I hope that these answer your question adequately.

[Wake up call]

You should go into politics as you clearly love using deflection techniques and fabrication to avoid issues.

In regards to Suz Member. YES. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that ALL boxers on your shows are adequate. The board does do checks into overseas licensed boxers and has rejected MANY on the basis of their ability. Member is from Preston, not Tanzania so that should have raised alarm bells in itself. It was common knowledge to people involved in boxing that he could not fight long before you allowed him to get himself battered by a nobody in one round on your show.

You can bang on about Iain Weaver, but there are a list of other boxers on MBC shows that are NOT licensed elsewhere and have been rejected by the board for medical reasons.

You are yet to explain the justification of allowing bouncers to box on your shows. These bouncers sign a waiver before boxing and solely paid in tickets. How is that ethical. And don't blame the EBF etc as we all know you are in cahoots with them and you are allowing this to go on at shows that carrying your company's logo and branding.

As for the EBU. They only allowed you to join because they felt you would solely operate in Malta. You are no longer EBU members.

You may have been involved in Alex Zammit's Maltese Board in 2011, but you company (the one who now sanction UK shows with) was not formed until August 2012.

Please do not treat us like idiots. You sir are running what is effectively no different to all other forms of unlicensed (meaning non BBBofC) boxing and are attempting to pull the wool over people's eyes by using a country in your title.

[Wake up call]

Luca

Just an early notice, I'm setting up the South Sudan boxing commission in the UK. We re going to sanction REAL old fashioned British title fights and we're going to present our champions with great big huge purple belts which they can show to all their friends.
We've no money and haven't a clue about our long term plans,but I'm pretty sure we can find a few half wits to take out licences.
The first show will be in a marquee outside my back door !!

[LucaDiCaro]

You should go into politics as you clearly love using deflection techniques and fabrication to avoid issues.

In regards to Suz Member. YES. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that ALL boxers on your shows are adequate. The board does do checks into overseas licensed boxers and has rejected MANY on the basis of their ability. Member is from Preston, not Tanzania so that should have raised alarm bells in itself. It was common knowledge to people involved in boxing that he could not fight long before you allowed him to get himself battered by a nobody in one round on your show.

You can bang on about Iain Weaver, but there are a list of other boxers on MBC shows that are NOT licensed elsewhere and have been rejected by the board for medical reasons.

You are yet to explain the justification of allowing bouncers to box on your shows. These bouncers sign a waiver before boxing and solely paid in tickets. How is that ethical. And don't blame the EBF etc as we all know you are in cahoots with them and you are allowing this to go on at shows that carrying your company's logo and branding.

As for the EBU. They only allowed you to join because they felt you would solely operate in Malta. You are no longer EBU members.

You may have been involved in Alex Zammit's Maltese Board in 2011, but you company (the one who now sanction UK shows with) was not formed until August 2012.

Please do not treat us like idiots. You sir are running what is effectively no different to all other forms of unlicensed (meaning non BBBofC) boxing and are attempting to pull the wool over people's eyes by using a country in your title.

If anyone should be in politics it's you - I haven't avoided a single issue, I have answered every single one, yet for reasons only known to yourself you either decide to ignore my responses or turn them around to suit your 'argument'.

[expe]

You should go into politics as you clearly love using deflection techniques and fabrication to avoid issues.

In regards to Suz Member. YES. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that ALL boxers on your shows are adequate. The board does do checks into overseas licensed boxers and has rejected MANY on the basis of their ability. Member is from Preston, not Tanzania so that should have raised alarm bells in itself. It was common knowledge to people involved in boxing that he could not fight long before you allowed him to get himself battered by a nobody in one round on your show.

You can bang on about Iain Weaver, but there are a list of other boxers on MBC shows that are NOT licensed elsewhere and have been rejected by the board for medical reasons.

You are yet to explain the justification of allowing bouncers to box on your shows. These bouncers sign a waiver before boxing and solely paid in tickets. How is that ethical. And don't blame the EBF etc as we all know you are in cahoots with them and you are allowing this to go on at shows that carrying your company's logo and branding.

As for the EBU. They only allowed you to join because they felt you would solely operate in Malta. You are no longer EBU members.

You may have been involved in Alex Zammit's Maltese Board in 2011, but you company (the one who now sanction UK shows with) was not formed until August 2012.

Please do not treat us like idiots. You sir are running what is effectively no different to all other forms of unlicensed (meaning non BBBofC) boxing and are attempting to pull the wool over people's eyes by using a country in your title.

If anyone should be in politics it's you - I haven't avoided a single issue, I have answered every single one, yet for reasons only known to yourself you either decide to ignore my responses or turn them around to suit your 'argument'.

If you can't answer the question, you make stuff up or shift the blame elsewhere, the mark of a true politician.

What's your connection with Malta then? Apart from the EBU asking you to start a Maltese Boxing commission in 2011, what do you have to do with the country? Surely after the EBU withdrew recognition, you no longer had anything to do with the island and no reason to be running a Boxing commission claiming to represent it.

[Des1]

This is all about the BBBofC controlling boxers and the sport for their own benefit and not in the best interest of the fighters or the sport, They make Irish licensed fighters living in the North pay £50 to fight in Northern Ireland because the class them as foreign fighters, that's just one of hundreds of issues, the strangle hold they have on the sport is over and about time.

Exactly, how can they do that when supposedly Northern Ireland is considered as part of the UK?

[kamicazze]

This is all about the BBBofC controlling boxers and the sport for their own benefit and not in the best interest of the fighters or the sport, They make Irish licensed fighters living in the North pay £50 to fight in Northern Ireland because the class them as foreign fighters, that's just one of hundreds of issues, the strangle hold they have on the sport is over and about time.

Exactly, how can they do that when supposedly Northern Ireland is considered as part of the UK?

The bbb of c charge oversees fighters to fight?

[Wake up call]

This is all about the BBBofC controlling boxers and the sport for their own benefit and not in the best interest of the fighters or the sport, They make Irish licensed fighters living in the North pay £50 to fight in Northern Ireland because the class them as foreign fighters, that's just one of hundreds of issues, the strangle hold they have on the sport is over and about time.

Exactly, how can they do that when supposedly Northern Ireland is considered as part of the UK?

What Irishboxing has said is at best a half-truth. The board charge a one off fee to all non-BBBofC licensed fighters on their shows.

In Northern Ireland you have boxers fighting on Republic of Ireland licenses who have therefore not contributed to the board and the provisions it provides.

As the IBU is a seperate body operating in a different territory the board charges the same fee it would to, say, a fighter boxing on a Bulgarian license.

It is not charged to all boxers in Northern Ireland, only the minority who themselves choose to take an IBU license instead.

Carl Frampton, for example, does not pay a foreign fighter fee because he is BBBofC licensed.

[kamicazze]

Ok thanks for clearing that up. So how much of a fee must they pay?

[daviddee]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

[Alba]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

maybe im diffrent, if i want to see kick boxing ill go and see a kick boxing show ... nothing against it i just am not intrested in it. I have heard it is common in europe, but out of the gERMAN Italian Russian boxing shows i have watched on tv (and it is a lot over the last decade) i havent seen any kick boxing so were does it go on ?

[Wake up call]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

maybe im diffrent, if i want to see kick boxing ill go and see a kick boxing show ... nothing against it i just am not intrested in it. I have heard it is common in europe, but out of the gERMAN Italian Russian boxing shows i have watched on tv (and it is a lot over the last decade) i havent seen any kick boxing so were does it go on ?

Spain mainly.

[Wake up call]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

If you knew the answers you'd know he's avoided them or made up his responses.

Also, you mention mismatches, but MBC are yet to sanction anything but mismatches.

A "bit of competition" won't serve the BBBofC well, it will serve to draw every Tom, Dick and Harry out of the woodwork with their own bogus bodies. Boxing is confusing enough without it becoming like UK MMA or kickboxing, where you have dozens of sanctioning bodies, dozens of titles and no real fanbase but it's too difficult to work out who the real fighters are from the pretenders.

[LucaDiCaro]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

If you knew the answers you'd know he's avoided them or made up his responses.

Also, you mention mismatches, but MBC are yet to sanction anything but mismatches.

A "bit of competition" won't serve the BBBofC well, it will serve to draw every Tom, Dick and Harry out of the woodwork with their own bogus bodies. Boxing is confusing enough without it becoming like UK MMA or kickboxing, where you have dozens of sanctioning bodies, dozens of titles and no real fanbase but it's too difficult to work out who the real fighters are from the pretenders.

The difference between what I say and what you say Wake Up Call is that everything said from my end is a hundred percent verifiable, whereas it seems that you either have your own agenda, actually are someone at the BBBofC, or being fed questions or comments by someone at the BBBofC, as you are deliberately misleading in your comments and intent in turning my responses around to suit your 'agenda', or whoever is feeding you the questions agenda.

When it comes to the boxers licensed by the MBC I have their applications, as well as if in the case of those you chose to name their medical reports not just from the doctors that undertook them but also by the specialists that the BBBofC ignore, moreover I even have copies of the BBBofC letters including in one case a copy of the e.mail from the BBBofC's own neurological consultant advising them that there is no reason not to license that particular boxer.

When it comes to Malta being EBU - I posted a link to the PR and yet you hadn't read it, or chose to ignore it as it clearly states that the MBC was created by Alex and Myself.

Also do a little more checking when you talk about Alex and his "Malta Boxing Council" check out what happened to this organisation he set up after I fired him - It doesn't exist anymore.

As for Suz Member, it's time for you to close your personal attacks on the kid, he may not be a good boxer, but beleive me I have seen many on BBBofC shows that are as bad if not worse and even posted a link to a particular boxer who the BBBofC licensed that I am sure no other organisation, including ourselves, would. The BBBofC's current trials have no meaning, shadow boxing and pad work should never be the basis of issuing licenses, this should be done with a proper sparring trial just like the BBBofC used to do and we still do.

Mismatches - well sorry I can pull thousands of mismatches by the BBBofC but can't be bothered even if it was to stop people taking notice of your postings - but here's one of our events from December - tell me how is the matching on this event any different to any average BBBofC small hall event http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=702448

Either way don't pretend you know anything about me or the Malta Boxing Commission or any aspect of the work we do, because you don't you make it up or someone is doing it for you to post.

[Wake up call]

I have read all the posts on here unfortunately. I don't really see where Expe and Wake up Call are coming from saying Luca is avoiding the questions? He has answered every question. Just because you don't like or believe the answer then it doesn't mean he's a politician or swerving. I don't really have a massive feeling either way on this. I think in boxing safety should always be paramount and BBBofC have one of the best procedures for this. In saying this it seems to be when it suits them. I have seen a lot of foreign fighters being allowed to fight who are way out there depth and should not even be fighting white collar. Also matchmaking is not great so many Mismatches every single week. I think a bit of competition may well do British Boxing good although I'm not fully convinced this is the way. I do like the idea of other martial arts on the same card. It's good for the fans and might boost ticket sales at small hall shows. In saying that I don't like the Idea of white collar and pro boxing mixing.

If you knew the answers you'd know he's avoided them or made up his responses.

Also, you mention mismatches, but MBC are yet to sanction anything but mismatches.

A "bit of competition" won't serve the BBBofC well, it will serve to draw every Tom, Dick and Harry out of the woodwork with their own bogus bodies. Boxing is confusing enough without it becoming like UK MMA or kickboxing, where you have dozens of sanctioning bodies, dozens of titles and no real fanbase but it's too difficult to work out who the real fighters are from the pretenders.

The difference between what I say and what you say Wake Up Call is that everything said from my end is a hundred percent verifiable, whereas it seems that you either have your own agenda, actually are someone at the BBBofC, or being fed questions or comments by someone at the BBBofC, as you are deliberately misleading in your comments and intent in turning my responses around to suit your 'agenda', or whoever is feeding you the questions agenda.

When it comes to the boxers licensed by the MBC I have their applications, as well as if in the case of those you chose to name their medical reports not just from the doctors that undertook them but also by the specialists that the BBBofC ignore, moreover I even have copies of the BBBofC letters including in one case a copy of the e.mail from the BBBofC's own neurological consultant advising them that there is no reason not to license that particular boxer.

When it comes to Malta being EBU - I posted a link to the PR and yet you hadn't read it, or chose to ignore it as it clearly states that the MBC was created by Alex and Myself.

Also do a little more checking when you talk about Alex and his "Malta Boxing Council" check out what happened to this organisation he set up after I fired him - It doesn't exist anymore.

As for Suz Member, it's time for you to close your personal attacks on the kid, he may not be a good boxer, but beleive me I have seen many on BBBofC shows that are as bad if not worse and even posted a link to a particular boxer who the BBBofC licensed that I am sure no other organisation, including ourselves, would. The BBBofC's current trials have no meaning, shadow boxing and pad work should never be the basis of issuing licenses, this should be done with a proper sparring trial just like the BBBofC used to do and we still do.

Mismatches - well sorry I can pull thousands of mismatches by the BBBofC but can't be bothered even if it was to stop people taking notice of your postings - but here's one of our events from December - tell me how is the matching on this event any different to any average BBBofC small hall event http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=702448

Either way don't pretend you know anything about me or the Malta Boxing Commission or any aspect of the work we do, because you don't you make it up or someone is doing it for you to post.

Ha ha ha ha.

What a clown you are. It seems what people in the game say about you is true.

And that card you've just posted is the biggest pile of poo I have ever seen.

I've pointed out the facts and you've attempted to turn it around with a pathetic personal attack.

Everything you say is verifiable? Don't make me laugh.

If that is the case, show use evidence of the following:

1) Photographs of the parking facilities at the nightclub you have sanctioned a show even the though the board wouldn't for safety reasons.

2) Evidence that you DO NOT allow unskilled white collar boxers to appear on shows you are involved in.

3) Evidence that your company legitimately existed prior to you registering it in the UK? And that you are the recognised body in Malta.

4) Evidence that conducted thorough checks into the ability of Suz Member before allowing him to get hurt on your show.

5) Evidence that you personally have a connection to Malta and are not just using its name as way of latching onto international bodies.

6) Evidence that you do not licence ex-cons who do not meet the requirements of the board because they have existing convictions.

On top of all this, you are a director of some of the companies promoting events and one of the bodies giving titles. If that is not a conflict of interest I don't know what is.

[josco]

Whilst it certainly does seem that Mr di Caro is a pretty talented and hardworking publicist here are a few snippets to possibly help in putting the Malta Boxing Commission debate into some sort of perspective :

- The company was formed in August 2012 (as someone else has mentioned) with a paid up share capital of £100.

- The trading address of the company is a one bedroom flat in Woolwich. Other companies based at the same address include WBU
Europe Ltd and Universal Boxing Union (UBU) Ltd although these do not seem to be trading.

- Mr di Caro is the sole director of these three companies.

- The last published annual accounts of MBC showed cash in the bank of £52 with net assets of MINUS £1576.

So in all kindness MBC does appears to be very much a work in progress but good luck to Mr di Caro despite the negative portents. Del Boy would be proud.

It is interesting though to see that a quite a number of well known people in the boxing world are shown as 'friends' on his Facebook page (I lost count after John H Stracey).

[Looking On]

To be honest the debate has become tiresome now.

What started out as interesting to hear the views and opinions of Mr Di Caro and his opponents has now become a slanging match that benefits nobody other than those who wish to oppose.

If you dont like it dont support it, dont go to the events etc.

Otherwise hes got the right to run a business just like anyone else has on here.

[kamicazze]

I think an Ifl tv type interview with mr di Caro is the way forward. I'll volunteer

[kamicazze]

To be honest the debate has become tiresome now.

What started out as interesting to hear the views and opinions of Mr Di Caro and his opponents has now become a slanging match that benefits nobody other than those who wish to oppose.

If you dont like it dont support it, dont go to the events etc.

Otherwise hes got the right to run a business just like anyone else has on here.

This ^^^ give the man a chance

[expe]

To be honest the debate has become tiresome now.

What started out as interesting to hear the views and opinions of Mr Di Caro and his opponents has now become a slanging match that benefits nobody other than those who wish to oppose.

If you dont like it dont support it, dont go to the events etc.

Otherwise hes got the right to run a business just like anyone else has on here.

It's not a business, it's a boxing commission, if he's set it up to make money, even more reason for him to be banned from boxing, governing bodies shouldn't be trying to make a profit from sport. Obviously we don't support it, but that really isn't going to be enough to stop it, there needs to be serious punishments for anyone involved in any of this.

[Boxing Prospect]

Explain to us how Suz Member was fit to box professionally? I'm not talking medically, I'm talking about skill. No bullshit about the Tanzanian license, there's more than enough footage of his unlicensed fights on youtube to show you that he has no place in a boxing ring.

When Luca is stumped by logical questions.

So you are saying that when a foreign licensed boxer is added to an event that you expect that the home sanctioning organisation should go searching on youtube for their previous fights?

Do the BBBofC or any other sanctioning organisation do that? - the answer is a big NO

For what it's worth the JBC do suspend foreign fighters from fighting in Japan if they are found to be unskilled or fail to give a worthwhile effort. It is a case of punishing after the fact but it does stop a fighter from going back over if they lack the ability. Maybe something like that could be implemented?

[Looking On]

To be honest the debate has become tiresome now.

What started out as interesting to hear the views and opinions of Mr Di Caro and his opponents has now become a slanging match that benefits nobody other than those who wish to oppose.

If you dont like it dont support it, dont go to the events etc.

Otherwise hes got the right to run a business just like anyone else has on here.

It's not a business, it's a boxing commission, if he's set it up to make money, even more reason for him to be banned from boxing, governing bodies shouldn't be trying to make a profit from sport. Obviously we don't support it, but that really isn't going to be enough to stop it, there needs to be serious punishments for anyone involved in any of this.

While i appreciate your passion to defend the sport you love, at the end of the day boxing is a business, and probably more of a business than it is a sport.

People willing to work for free are few and far between and those involved in boxing are no different.
A perfect example is to ask anyone who runs their own gym... they love it and are passionate about boxing, they couldnt be a trainer otherwise as its a thankless task which often gets little reward... but tell them they are never earning anything out of it and most wouldnt bother, the gyms wont pay for themselves.
No different for a sanctioning body, or a promoter or manager and even a boxer themselves a lot of the time.
As for punishment for people who are involved..... what would they be punished for...? theyve not commited any type of crime... would it be fair to punish you if you started a painting and decorating business and the local rivval company didnt like that you had ? should that make you be punished.? .

Your not stupid you understand what im saying.... while you may not like it, theres nothing me, you or anyone else can do to prevent it.

Like any business... if you dont like the product you dont buy it...

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To be honest the debate has become tiresome now.

What started out as interesting to hear the views and opinions of Mr Di Caro and his opponents has now become a slanging match that benefits nobody other than those who wish to oppose.

If you dont like it dont support it, dont go to the events etc.

Otherwise hes got the right to run a business just like anyone else has on here.

It's not a business, it's a boxing commission, if he's set it up to make money, even more reason for him to be banned from boxing, governing bodies shouldn't be trying to make a profit from sport. Obviously we don't support it, but that really isn't going to be enough to stop it, there needs to be serious punishments for anyone involved in any of this.

While i appreciate your passion to defend the sport you love, at the end of the day boxing is a business, and probably more of a business than it is a sport.

People willing to work for free are few and far between and those involved in boxing are no different.
A perfect example is to ask anyone who runs their own gym... they love it and are passionate about boxing, they couldnt be a trainer otherwise as its a thankless task which often gets little reward... but tell them they are never earning anything out of it and most wouldnt bother, the gyms wont pay for themselves.
No different for a sanctioning body, or a promoter or manager and even a boxer themselves a lot of the time.
As for punishment for people who are involved..... what would they be punished for...? theyve not commited any type of crime... would it be fair to punish you if you started a painting and decorating business and the local rivval company didnt like that you had ? should that make you be punished.? .

Your not stupid you understand what im saying.... while you may not like it, theres nothing me, you or anyone else can do to prevent it.

Like any business... if you dont like the product you dont buy it...

No one has to work for free, whoever is running the sanctioning body should be paid a fair wage, the sanctioning body shouldn't be trying to make a profit though, it is a governing body not a business. Promoters are perfectly entitled to make a profit, but governing bodies shouldn't be making a profit from running the sport.

The comparisons you're making aren't valid because governing bodies aren't businesses. Unfortunately they have better things to do with their time, but I'd like to see the government sign into law that the British Boxing Board of Control is the governing body for professional boxing and the ABA is the governing body for amateur boxing, anyone trying to operate outside them gets banned, same for every other sport out there. The board are perfectly capable of punishing anyone involved as it is anyway, if they have any balls they'll ban every single person indefinitely. The same goes for EU law, it should not apply to sport, it was designed for business, not sport, which would end any of the bollocks legal challenges Luca is trying to come up with, once again though, they have better things to be doing with their time.