jeff malcom

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Must admit had never heard of him until about an hour ago, he had an insane amount of fights and even got a shot at the WBO title so how highly was he thought of in oz ?
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You spelt his last name wrong [Malcolm] had his 49th pro fight while still a teenager turned pro when only 15 years old one week he'd be fighting in Griffith NSW the next week he'd be in Port Morsbey PNG Fighting, most of his losses was when he was learning on the job against stronger bigger men
was signed by Don King in the early 80's lived at Kings training camp in Orwell OHIO when it came to his ability he was always honest on who he could beat to be a world champion[didn't bullsh.. himself like some] Use to sparr Dons WBC jr welter [was malcolms prime fighting weight] world champ Leroy Haley reports where Malcolm handled him with ease Malcolm was locked out of the picture by Don and his son Carl who was Malcolms manager [Don had his own plans]
Malcolm never lost a fight on USA soil finally got his shot at a world tittle after 21 years of hard slog against WBO Welterweight champion American Manning Galloway, Malcolm was by this time past his best at 36 years old lost a un dec in 1979 he went to Nigeria Africa to defend his Commonwealth jr welterweight tittle, Imagine if a manager/trainer asked a world rated fighter today[let alone in 1979] to go to Nigeria and fight they'd be sacked on the spot people spoke about his speed of hand and foot but what they don't mention was his ch :salut: in of granite............
was a world rated Grandfather at 45 years old. :box: :box: :box: :box:
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Didn't he in more recent years oversee Mundines weight loss down to 154lbs?
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Kelandbeave wrote:Didn't he in more recent years oversee Mundines weight loss down to 154lbs?
This bloke is a expert on what weight someone should be by just having a quick glance at them he can tell your best fighting weight he reminds me when ever I see him how many kg's I need to lose :lol: :lol: :lol: Mundine should always been a jr middleweight and yes I believe Malcolm was the
one that said it can be done[ moving to jr middle ] when most said their mad to even try. :TU:
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Unbelievable fighter, saw him fight at about 44yo and his opponent, a nz Olympian turn pro couldn't land a glove on him, finally his opponent landed a clean one on him in about the 4th and within about 5 seconds it was over, Jeff destroyed him
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NZ Olympian :lol:
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Kelandbeave wrote:NZ Olympian :lol:
I think the point is 44years of age :lol: ,fighting on the street at that age against the local pug of a one horse town would a big effort for any normal
bloke let alone getting in a boxing ring with any Olympic boxer from NZ or any other small country and give him a boxing lesson.
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Pureist wrote:Unbelievable fighter, saw him fight at about 44yo and his opponent, a nz Olympian turn pro couldn't land a glove on him, finally his opponent landed a clean one on him in about the 4th and within about 5 seconds it was over, Jeff destroyed him
I was 8 years old when I first watched him Defended his Commonwealth tittle against Baby Cassius Austin in Griffith in 1978 all I can really remember was Malcolm on the ropes weaving and ducking sometimes has low has his knee and Baby Cassius punch's flying over the top of Malcolm this seemed to go on for the whole 15 round's Malcolm was rated in the top ten by the WBC in the jr welter class at the time and come to think of it he might have been rated in the top ten by the WBA at the time of his last fight in 2002 that's a 24 year gap i'll have to check it.
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Flash was a crafty southpaw who fought just about anywhere and against anyone. Watched his WBO title fight against Manning Gallaway at Jupiters. Lost quite convincingly but as was said his better days where behind him.
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Kelandbeave wrote:NZ Olympian :lol:
Yeah doesn't quite have the ring to it of A Cuban Olympian or USA Olympian does it. :OhYes:
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Kelandbeave wrote:Didn't he in more recent years oversee Mundines weight loss down to 154lbs?
I believe Ray Kelly was instrumental in Mundine getting down to 154 Kel. Ray's weight loss milkshakes got Anthony's weight down.
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Calm down mate.

He was a good fighter yes. :TU:
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Cheers guys :TU:
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Kelandbeave wrote:NZ Olympian :lol:
And Australia has had such an extensive list of Olympians.
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Francis75 wrote:
Kelandbeave wrote:Didn't he in more recent years oversee Mundines weight loss down to 154lbs?
I believe Ray Kelly was instrumental in Mundine getting down to 154 Kel. Ray's weight loss milkshakes got Anthony's weight down.
Well it doesn't really matter who was the one who said go to this weight class but I do know Malcolms advice[opinion] was held in high
regard by team Mundine.
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It's an incredible acheivement to have 127 pro fights. But with all due respect, Barry Michael, Hector Thompson, Gerard Zohs and Sean Sullivan are the only names on his resume I have heard of. And the later two weren't exactly world class.
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Lairdy wrote:It's an incredible acheivement to have 127 pro fights. But with all due respect, Barry Michael, Hector Thompson, Gerard Zohs and Sean Sullivan are the only names on his resume I have heard of. And the later two weren't exactly world class.
Just logged in to check weights on the data base. Haven't you heard of Frank and Matt Ropis, Ronald Doo, Billy Moeller, Billy Mulholland or Russel Sands, Lairdy? I'm a bit to young for that era but appreciate how good they are. Seaqn Sullivan was no world beater but he was a good, honest international level boxer who always gave a good account of himself. To have wins or split losses with most of those names above is very impressive.
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Jeff was a very skillful fighter and an awkward southpaw to boot. He took on the best of the locals in the 70s and 80s, including Barry Michael (getting a points decision).

His defensive skills was on the the main reasons for his incredible longevity in the ring - 138 fights and stopped only thrice.
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He was good enough to beat Bobby Joe Young. Unfortunately didn't capitalise on the win (Young went on to hand Aaron Pryor his one and only loss some years later)
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dberry wrote:
Lairdy wrote:It's an incredible acheivement to have 127 pro fights. But with all due respect, Barry Michael, Hector Thompson, Gerard Zohs and Sean Sullivan are the only names on his resume I have heard of. And the later two weren't exactly world class.
Just logged in to check weights on the data base. Haven't you heard of Frank and Matt Ropis, Ronald Doo, Billy Moeller, Billy Mulholland or Russel Sands, Lairdy? I'm a bit to young for that era but appreciate how good they are. Seaqn Sullivan was no world beater but he was a good, honest international level boxer who always gave a good account of himself. To have wins or split losses with most of those names above is very impressive.
I've only been following boxing thoroughly for maybe 10 years, and I'm quite a bit younger than you Dale. Thus why I have only heard of the fighters I named. Yes, Sullivan certainly did give it his all. Granite chin.
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How good a boxer was Jeff "The Flash" Malcolm, well Baby Cassius Austin was at the time the current Australian and Commonwealth Junior Welterweight Champion and was all set to fight the ageing Sauseng Manksureng (spelling might be incorrect) of Thailand for the World Title, but chose to have a warm up fight instead and fought Jeff over 15 x 3 minute rounds at the Lions Den in Melbourne, and lost both titles that afternoon.

The fight contract stipulated that if Baby Cassius lost the fight then there would have to be a rematch, and so Mario Guerra a local Griffith boxing promoter/identity arranged for the rematch to be held out doors under the stars on a warm summers night at the Griffith Dog Ground, not only would it be a 12 fight exciting promotion but it drew the biggest ever crowd to a Boxing event that was ever staged in Griffith.
From memory the main event between Jeff and Laukie Austin commenced at 10.pm and after 15 x 3 minute rounds of absolute brilliant boxing and counter punching Jeff The Flash Malcolm, without any doubt was the victor again, having said that Lauchie at times boxed/punched well and split Jeff's nose and his left eye.
I don't think that Jeff Malcolm ever received the proper recognition for his heart, courage and brilliant southpaw boxing ability, because the night that he fought and beat Lauchie Austin again in Griffith, I believe he would have beaten any Junior Welterweight in the world, he was definitely
at the top of his game and one of the finest boxers this country has ever produced!! :TU: :bag:
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Good comments guys. :TU: However I did edit/ditch some comments so topic remains on track :)
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Lairdy wrote:It's an incredible acheivement to have 127 pro fights. But with all due respect, Barry Michael, Hector Thompson, Gerard Zohs and Sean Sullivan are the only names on his resume I have heard of. And the later two weren't exactly world class.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gerard Zohs imagine how Malcolm felt watching Mundine get 600k ON DEBUT to smash Zohs only months before he gets a few thousand to do the same thing to Zohs
and he was in to his THIRD DECADE HAS A PRO FIGHTER I once bought this up to him he's response was a shrug of the shoulders I never bought it up again until now
Well Well Lairdy thanks for being honest with us but u know what you'v done u let the cat out of the bag so to speak let your guard down and exsposed your boxing knowledge
ITS BEEN WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF A POSTAGE STAMP. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Malcolm boxed Bobby Joe Young ears off on the Dokes v Coetzier card in the states in 1982 Young at the time was ranked in the top ten in the world as a welter the ring magazine rated Young the hardest punching welter in the world Malcolm was in the world top ten at jr welter the tricky southpaw couldn't get any one to fight so he took on the bigger Young[ today you wouldn't hear of this
a world rated fighter up against another world rated fighter who is from the weight class above YOUNG WAS ONLY MAN TO BEAT THE GREAT ARRON PRYOR.
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Robert Carroll wrote:How good a boxer was Jeff "The Flash" Malcolm, well Baby Cassius Austin was at the time the current Australian and Commonwealth Junior Welterweight Champion and was all set to fight the ageing Sauseng Manksureng (spelling might be incorrect) of Thailand for the World Title, but chose to have a warm up fight instead and fought Jeff over 15 x 3 minute rounds at the Lions Den in Melbourne, and lost both titles that afternoon.

The fight contract stipulated that if Baby Cassius lost the fight then there would have to be a rematch, and so Mario Guerra a local Griffith boxing promoter/identity arranged for the rematch to be held out doors under the stars on a warm summers night at the Griffith Dog Ground, not only would it be a 12 fight exciting promotion but it drew the biggest ever crowd to a Boxing event that was ever staged in Griffith.
From memory the main event between Jeff and Laukie Austin commenced at 10.pm and after 15 x 3 minute rounds of absolute brilliant boxing and counter punching Jeff The Flash Malcolm, without any doubt was the victor again, having said that Lauchie at times boxed/punched well and split Jeff's nose and his left eye.
I don't think that Jeff Malcolm ever received the proper recognition for his heart, courage and brilliant southpaw boxing ability, because the night that he fought and beat Lauchie Austin again in Griffith, I believe he would have beaten any Junior Welterweight in the world, he was definitely
at the top of his game and one of the finest boxers this country has ever produced!! :TU: :bag:
COULD'NT HAVE SAID IT BETTER :TU:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Lairdy wrote:It's an incredible acheivement to have 127 pro fights. But with all due respect, Barry Michael, Hector Thompson, Gerard Zohs and Sean Sullivan are the only names on his resume I have heard of. And the later two weren't exactly world class.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Gerard Zohs imagine how Malcolm felt watching Mundine get 600k ON DEBUT to smash Zohs only months before he gets a few thousand to do the same thing to Zohs
and he was in to his THIRD DECADE HAS A PRO FIGHTER I once bought this up to him he's response was a shrug of the shoulders I never bought it up again until now
Well Well Lairdy thanks for being honest with us but u know what you'v done u let the cat out of the bag so to speak let your guard down and exsposed your boxing knowledge
ITS BEEN WRITTEN ON THE BACK OF A POSTAGE STAMP. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Malcolm boxed Bobby Joe Young ears off on the Dokes v Coetzier card in the states in 1982 Young at the time was ranked in the top ten in the world as a welter the ring magazine rated Young the hardest punching welter in the world Malcolm was in the world top ten at jr welter the tricky southpaw couldn't get any one to fight so he took on the bigger Young[ today you wouldn't hear of this
a world rated fighter up against another world rated fighter who is from the weight class above YOUNG WAS ONLY MAN TO BEAT THE GREAT ARRON PRYOR.
Oh, so because I haven't followed boxing for as long as you (or perhaps have more happening in my life). All my boxing knowledge is "written on the back of a postage stamp". Get a grip matey! For someone that has followed the sport for just 10 years, I actually know quite a bit.
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