Where do you rank Kovalev P4P?

ikorolev · Post by **ikorolev** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:31

A poll would be helpful. I would put him somewhere in 5th-8th spot.

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:38

I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

ikorolev · Post by **ikorolev** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:47

bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

... and the division is really weak ... blah ... blah ... I think I have already heard that somewhere.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:49

I don't have a set of rankings but I think lower top ten is appropriate.

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:52

ikorolev wrote:
bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.
... and the division is really weak ... blah ... blah ... I think I have already heard that somewhere.

I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:53

Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:54

bigjack wrote:I wouldn't put him top ten yet,for me he hasn't beaten anyone of note,Hopkins was ancient and Pascal hadn't done anything worth talking about for several years.

He is very dominant in his wins though. If people put Alvarez in their top-10 after he beat an ancient Mosley and barely edged Trout, why not Kovalev?

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:54

I have him at No. 5.

bigjack · Post by **bigjack** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:56

crusader wrote:Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

Yes i like him,but that's my opinion,i'm sure you'll not agree with me

ikorolev · Post by **ikorolev** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:56

Braehmer sucks and he knows that which is why he doesn't come close to top 10 LHWs and fights nobodies instead. Beterbiev and Stevenson are the only ones who have chances (mainly puncher ones) to beat Kova.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:56

bigjack wrote:
crusader wrote:Is Braehmer someone of note in your opinion?

Yes i like him,but that's my opinion,i'm sure you'll not agree with me

He's okay, but I don't see how he's a notable opponent if Hopkins and Pascal aren't.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 15 Mar 2015, 13:58

bigjack wrote:I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.

Braehmer is not better than Hopkins, Pascal or Cleverly.

ikorolev · Post by **ikorolev** » 15 Mar 2015, 14:03

Horse wrote:
bigjack wrote:I never said that,if he beat Stephenson and then Braehmer i'd be impressed.
Braehmer is not better than Hopkins, Pascal or Cleverly.

Braehmer doesn't stand near 49-year old Hopkins or Pascal. WBA is the most corrupt of the ABC orgs, and they allowed Braehmer to fight Oliveira for their regular title. Oliveira is a nobody who fought nobody, and there were a bunch of more deserving candidates many of whom could beat Braehmer.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 15 Mar 2015, 14:18

I think Kovalev would stop Braehmer in 2-3 rounds.

koolkc107 · Post by **koolkc107** » 15 Mar 2015, 14:22

The next guy from the bottom 6 of the P4P list to lose will likely see Kovalev take his spot.

Blodhemn · Post by **Blodhemn** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:22

Easily top 10 but who really cares? P4P lists are jokes. He's the best LHW and it's not really close. I think he'd do well at cruiser as well.

pound per pound · Post by **pound per pound** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:28

In the top 6. The K man has very good skills, and fights the best out there.

brian13 · Post by **brian13** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:32

Top 8 definitely. All depends, if people include Ward or not due to inactivity. I will be inclined to go in the 6-7 range, just behind Wladimir. At this rate he is going at, he should be top 5 by the end of the year.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:39

Blodhemn wrote:Easily top 10 but who really cares?

Lots of people.

Blodhemn wrote:P4P lists are jokes.

No, they aren't.

Blodhemn · Post by **Blodhemn** » 15 Mar 2015, 15:48

Yeah you're right. Some people take them too sersiously... trying to pair up fighters with some being about the size as the other one's dinner is serious business.

Impractical Poster · Post by **Impractical Poster** » 15 Mar 2015, 16:18

crusader wrote:I don't have a set of rankings but I think lower top ten is appropriate.

I concur.

davie · Post by **davie** » 15 Mar 2015, 16:42

On resume just outside top ten,
on ability and scariness inside the top 10

So I think I'll put him at no10

Kootenay47 · Post by **Kootenay47** » 15 Mar 2015, 16:50

I rank him higher than Stevenson

handsofstone · Post by **handsofstone** » 15 Mar 2015, 16:57

No1 but if Braehmer beats Krasniqi next week ,he goes top

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