BJS CEJ Rematch

[Boxerbeetle]

I'm a huge BJS fan, but to suggest the Eubank fight wasn't close is just wrong imo. It shouldn't have been close - Saunders should have outclassed him with ease - but it was. Saunders is obviously talented, but his lack of stamina is very worrying & doesn't bode well for the future; he shouldn't be pushed to the limit by a relative novice just because he gasses so early. It's not like Brook against Jones either, where it was clearly a one-off, it's an ongoing & consistent flaw which needs to be rectified asap before he steps up properly.

I had Saunders winning by 6 rounds, watched it back and I had it to him by 3 or 4, can't remember which, wouldn't call it a close fight though, Eubank Jr didn't come close to winning it.

Interesting. I had Saunders by 2, I thought it was pretty close. I also remember my mum texting me saying how surprised she was to hear BJS had won when the scores were announced - she'd been listening on 5 Live who apparently thought Eubank had won it clearly.

[expe]

I'm a huge BJS fan, but to suggest the Eubank fight wasn't close is just wrong imo. It shouldn't have been close - Saunders should have outclassed him with ease - but it was. Saunders is obviously talented, but his lack of stamina is very worrying & doesn't bode well for the future; he shouldn't be pushed to the limit by a relative novice just because he gasses so early. It's not like Brook against Jones either, where it was clearly a one-off, it's an ongoing & consistent flaw which needs to be rectified asap before he steps up properly.

I had Saunders winning by 6 rounds, watched it back and I had it to him by 3 or 4, can't remember which, wouldn't call it a close fight though, Eubank Jr didn't come close to winning it.

Interesting. I had Saunders by 2, I thought it was pretty close. I also remember my mum texting me saying how surprised she was to hear BJS had won when the scores were announced - she'd been listening on 5 Live who apparently thought Eubank had won it clearly.

I gave Saunders the first 6 rounds, then 3 of the last 6, when I watched it again there was a level round or two in there and Eubank Jr took another round or two off him. The last 6 rounds were close, but BJS was comfortable the first 6, I never really got the impression Eubank was ever going to win on the cards, I was shocked when they said split decision, he threw a lot late on, but he didn't land a lot clean, a lot of his punches found thin air.

[handsofstone]

I had Saunders winning by 2 as well(116-114) ,Billy Joe's stamina is what loses him most rounds but I'm a big fan of his style and find myself having him winning a lot of his closely contested fights clear,a lot of people had Ryder beating him,I I had BJS winning well(117-112),I also had him beating Blackwell 118-111 when some had it a lot closer

The O'Sullivan, Hall and Pryce fights were all near shutouts so I haven't had Saunders dropping that many rounds

[Tarkus]

The first fight was a major step up for Eubank and you could say he was not ready for it. Now that he had two fight on higher level you should expect better showing, especially that he finished strong the first fight. On the other hand I have not noticed any major improvement. He is same crude-ish brawler with above average power and low workrate. 50/50

[danamba7]

The first fight was a major step up for Eubank and you could say he was not ready for it. Now that he had two fight on higher level you should expect better showing, especially that he finished strong the first fight. On the other hand I have not noticed any major improvement. He is same crude-ish brawler with above average power and low workrate. 50/50

His work rate wasn't low in the Chudinov fight! Showed an immense level of fitness.

[expe]

The first fight was a major step up for Eubank and you could say he was not ready for it. Now that he had two fight on higher level you should expect better showing, especially that he finished strong the first fight. On the other hand I have not noticed any major improvement. He is same crude-ish brawler with above average power and low workrate. 50/50

His work rate wasn't low in the Chudinov fight! Showed an immense level of fitness.

He was knackered after 4 rounds.

[Finn]

The first fight was a major step up for Eubank and you could say he was not ready for it. Now that he had two fight on higher level you should expect better showing, especially that he finished strong the first fight. On the other hand I have not noticed any major improvement. He is same crude-ish brawler with above average power and low workrate. 50/50

His work rate wasn't low in the Chudinov fight! Showed an immense level of fitness.

He was knackered after 4 rounds.

? If he was knackered in the 4th round he wouldn't have been able to fight at that intensity in the 12th, you guys must be some real Eubank haters. His fitness levels were impressive and his work rate was high.

[expe]

His work rate wasn't low in the Chudinov fight! Showed an immense level of fitness.

He was knackered after 4 rounds.

? If he was knackered in the 4th round he wouldn't have been able to fight at that intensity in the 12th, you guys must be some real Eubank haters. His fitness levels were impressive and his work rate was high.

He was blowing early on, easy to see, mouth wide open for most of the fight, he got away with it because Chudinov wasn't good enough to force him to fight at his pace and the one useful thing he has learnt from his Dad is to go for a walk when he's tired.

[danamba7]

He was blowing early on, easy to see, mouth wide open for most of the fight, he got away with it because Chudinov wasn't good enough to force him to fight at his pace and the one useful thing he has learnt from his Dad is to go for a walk when he's tired.

Anyone would be blowing after those long spells of throwing all power shots. It was impressive how fast he recovered. All in all, he's far from the finished article but I was impressed personally.

[expe]

He was blowing early on, easy to see, mouth wide open for most of the fight, he got away with it because Chudinov wasn't good enough to force him to fight at his pace and the one useful thing he has learnt from his Dad is to go for a walk when he's tired.

Anyone would be blowing after those long spells of throwing all power shots. It was impressive how fast he recovered. All in all, he's far from the finished article but I was impressed personally.

He's fitter than his Dad was, but I'd like to see him try and fight like that, then have someone put it on him in return and see if he can keep the pace up before I could call his stamina incredible.

[Tarkus]

The first fight was a major step up for Eubank and you could say he was not ready for it. Now that he had two fight on higher level you should expect better showing, especially that he finished strong the first fight. On the other hand I have not noticed any major improvement. He is same crude-ish brawler with above average power and low workrate. 50/50

His work rate wasn't low in the Chudinov fight! Showed an immense level of fitness.

I did not say his fitness was poor. Work rate was though low. He relies on power rather then on volume. And without actually having a serious punch his strategy is flawed.

[Monte Fisto]

I'm a huge BJS fan, but to suggest the Eubank fight wasn't close is just wrong imo. It shouldn't have been close - Saunders should have outclassed him with ease - but it was. Saunders is obviously talented, but his lack of stamina is very worrying & doesn't bode well for the future; he shouldn't be pushed to the limit by a relative novice just because he gasses so early. It's not like Brook against Jones either, where it was clearly a one-off, it's an ongoing & consistent flaw which needs to be rectified asap before he steps up properly.

I had Saunders winning by 6 rounds, watched it back and I had it to him by 3 or 4, can't remember which, wouldn't call it a close fight though, Eubank Jr didn't come close to winning it.

Interesting. I had Saunders by 2, I thought it was pretty close. I also remember my mum texting me saying how surprised she was to hear BJS had won when the scores were announced - she'd been listening on 5 Live who apparently thought Eubank had won it clearly.

i heard the US commentary also had Eubank winning. i had BJS winning, but its crazy to think it wasn't a close fight.

[JC]

Eubank is always going to struggle with movers, flat footed guys play into his hands.

When you fight like he does it's hard to have a high workrate if you can't get set. I think it was more of a case of Saunders slowing down in the second half than Eubank sitting back in the first six.

[coneye]

It would all depend on Jimmy Tibbs ,, If Jimmy is honest with himself , he's going to look at the last fight and say Billy has the skills and experience he should of beat Eubank in a complete shut out ..But did'nt

He will then have to ask why , and admit a virtual novice , pushed it so hard that BJ started to gas and even let him nick a few rounds .

He would then say WE GOT A PROBLEM ... Billy has not got the fitness and stamina needed ..

Now being the experienced trainer he is ,, one would think he will acknoledge that , he will make Billy start running , and running , sparring and sparring , eating correctly , doing his gym work a lot harder , and everything, and anything, to get him to build his stanima and fitness rate .

If that were to happen it does'nt matter how many russian journemen they bring to make Eubanks look good he will never beat Billy

But if that does'nt happen then Billy needs to go get another trainer ,, Billys problems for boxing at elite level have been shown ,,, now its up to his trainer TO FIX THEM .

[CiganoBoxer]

Eubank is always going to struggle with movers, flat footed guys play into his hands.

I think it was more of a case of Saunders slowing down in the second half than Eubank sitting back in the first six.

yep

[Crease]

Saunders would win (again). He hasn't become a worse fighter overnight...

[Noxy]

Eubank is a good fighter but I don't see why he would win a rematch, he was beaten fair and square first time around and what would he do different second time?

[ajwesty13]

Sorry but I dont see any reason to have a rematch that soon.

It would make sense to leave the rematch until there is a belt on the line. Plus a bit more animosity wouldnt go a miss to make it a bigger fight

[Dunstan]

Eubank will now have the confidence of being a world 'champion' *



*Although his title is of the third division, Scott Quigg, Interim, not really worth anything at all variety.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Look for CEJ to turn the tables

[stevieb_8006]

BJS actually sticks to the gameplan this time and makes it easy.