PAC DEALING WITH LEG CRAMPS IN PREP FOR FLOYD FIGHT.

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Pac probably wishes he still had Ariza in his camp. It would probably be cheaper than the $1200 little tubes of massage cream Roach claims they have to buy for Pac's calves. :oo
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Isn't there a better way to build up your cardio then running on the f#cking hard ass pavement these days? In particular if dude gots leg issues. Why not look into other options. Throw dude in the pool or something.

Plus on a side note I've never fully understood jogging for boxers. Seems like you'd wanna do multiple sprints rather than run at a leisurely pace for an hour or whatever.
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ReggieDiggs wrote:Isn't there a better way to build up your cardio then running on the f#cking hard ass pavement these days? In particular if dude gots leg issues. Why not look into other options. Throw dude in the pool or something.

Plus on a side note I've never fully understood jogging for boxers. Seems like you'd wanna do multiple sprints rather than run at a leisurely pace for an hour or whatever.
Jogging long distances helps with your overall stamina, it's essential for 12 round fights. Sprinting is just as hard on your body and it isn't going to be as beneficial for a 12 round fight because it doesn't do nearly as much for your cardio. Road work has always been a part of training for boxers at the top level.

Take a cheetah for example, it can run up to 65 MPH but can only sustain that for a short distance, where as a wolf can run miles and miles with out getting tired and will basically run it's prey into the ground. Without proper road work a fighter isn't going to be nearly as fresh in the later rounds.
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Running helps but is not necessary. Wlad Klitschko wisely replaced all of his roadwork with swimming years back and that has without a doubt prolonged his career.

Once you hit your mid 30s, all of those years banging pavement will just wreck havoc on your joints and knees.
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NateJR wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:Isn't there a better way to build up your cardio then running on the f#cking hard ass pavement these days? In particular if dude gots leg issues. Why not look into other options. Throw dude in the pool or something.

Plus on a side note I've never fully understood jogging for boxers. Seems like you'd wanna do multiple sprints rather than run at a leisurely pace for an hour or whatever.
Jogging long distances helps with your overall stamina, it's essential for 12 round fights. Sprinting is just as hard on your body and it isn't going to be as beneficial for a 12 round fight because it doesn't do nearly as much for your cardio. Road work has always been a part of training for boxers at the top level.

Take a cheetah for example, it can run up to 65 MPH but can only sustain that for a short distance, where as a wolf can run miles and miles with out getting tired and will basically run it's prey into the ground. Without proper road work a fighter isn't going to be nearly as fresh in the later rounds.
I don't believe its essential. I think there are alternatives like swimming instead of the standard roadwork. I believe I've heard Wladimir exclusively swims or mostly swims as his cardio work. I'm sure there are others.

I'd be curious to see a study comparing stamina increases between people sprinting vs jogging. I don't buy that its a done deal that it doesn't help as much as jogging.
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dempseyfire wrote:Wlad Klitschko wisely replaced all of his roadwork with swimming years back and that has without a doubt prolonged his career.
:TU: Just posting about this, but I got long post lagging in the am.
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There are plenty of highly sophisticated types of running tracks now that are rubberized to be much easier on your joints, if you want to run. Can't make Rocky-type videos if you are using those though...
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NateJR wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:Isn't there a better way to build up your cardio then running on the f#cking hard ass pavement these days? In particular if dude gots leg issues. Why not look into other options. Throw dude in the pool or something.

Plus on a side note I've never fully understood jogging for boxers. Seems like you'd wanna do multiple sprints rather than run at a leisurely pace for an hour or whatever.
Jogging long distances helps with your overall stamina, it's essential for 12 round fights. Sprinting is just as hard on your body and it isn't going to be as beneficial for a 12 round fight because it doesn't do nearly as much for your cardio. Road work has always been a part of training for boxers at the top level.

Take a cheetah for example, it can run up to 65 MPH but can only sustain that for a short distance, where as a wolf can run miles and miles with out getting tired and will basically run it's prey into the ground. Without proper road work a fighter isn't going to be nearly as fresh in the later rounds.
Actually, that is not true at all.

It's been long proven that it is far more efficient to build up your cardio with interval work - interspersing walking, sprinting and jogging over much shorter distances.

What is important is the amount of oxygen your body is able to metabolise in those three minutes, for maximum output, and how fast you can recover.

Running mile after mile causes a lot of wear and tear, and also issues with the spinal muscles, pelvis, feet, knees and ankles. Sprint training is a far more efficient use of time, and causes less overall wear and tear than pounding the pavements for hour upon hour week after week.

I would be surprised if Fortune had him out running long training runs, I'd imagine there is a l of sprint work.

Cheetah's and wolves are built entirely differently, that's a piss-poor comparison, Cheetah's are built entirely for short bursts of explosive speed. they are a different animal.

I've spoken to quite a few professional conditioners before, who said that the fixation with roadwork was largely historic and that it wasn't well suited to the type of explosive work boxers do.

I remember Holyfield used to eschew long road runs in favour of bleep test runs and fartlek.

I'm sure that fighters could get just as much benefit from rowing, swimming, or any other high-demand physical activity.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
NateJR wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:Isn't there a better way to build up your cardio then running on the f#cking hard ass pavement these days? In particular if dude gots leg issues. Why not look into other options. Throw dude in the pool or something.

Plus on a side note I've never fully understood jogging for boxers. Seems like you'd wanna do multiple sprints rather than run at a leisurely pace for an hour or whatever.
Jogging long distances helps with your overall stamina, it's essential for 12 round fights. Sprinting is just as hard on your body and it isn't going to be as beneficial for a 12 round fight because it doesn't do nearly as much for your cardio. Road work has always been a part of training for boxers at the top level.

Take a cheetah for example, it can run up to 65 MPH but can only sustain that for a short distance, where as a wolf can run miles and miles with out getting tired and will basically run it's prey into the ground. Without proper road work a fighter isn't going to be nearly as fresh in the later rounds.
Actually, that is not true at all.

It's been long proven that it is far more efficient to build up your cardio with interval work - interspersing walking, sprinting and jogging over much shorter distances.

What is important is the amount of oxygen your body is able to metabolise in those three minutes, for maximum output, and how fast you can recover.

Running mile after mile causes a lot of wear and tear, and also issues with the spinal muscles, pelvis, feet, knees and ankles. Sprint training is a far more efficient use of time, and causes less overall wear and tear than pounding the pavements for hour upon hour week after week.

I would be surprised if Fortune had him out running long training runs, I'd imagine there is a l of sprint work.

Cheetah's and wolves are built entirely differently, that's a piss-poor comparison, Cheetah's are built entirely for short bursts of explosive speed. they are a different animal.

I've spoken to quite a few professional conditioners before, who said that the fixation with roadwork was largely historic and that it wasn't well suited to the type of explosive work boxers do.

I remember Holyfield used to eschew long road runs in favour of bleep test runs and fartlek.

I'm sure that fighters could get just as much benefit from rowing, swimming, or any other high-demand physical activity.
This. Interval work is much more beneficial to a boxer
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True, i always thought that jogging main use was to bring weight down as it can be done for long periods to burn off calories.
A combination of varied sprints with jogging in between is much more similar to what a boxer will be doing in the ring.
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