Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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Can Lee pull off the trifecta and win another fight he's supposed to lose? I'm off the belief this is a bridge too far and the odds are too low here. -285 for Quillin? Thats it? Lee has arguably lost every round of his last 2 fights and erased it all with 1 punch KO's. I havent seen the sort of suspect chin for Quillin that leads me to believe that lightning is going to strike yet again. I like Quillin alot in this fight. Think he can not only hurt Lee, but is too fast for him and wont get overzealous having seen what happened to the last 2 guys that did.

I dont think Quillin is "great" per se but he's a top 3 middleweight and I'd set the odds for this fight closer to -600 if I were setting the odds.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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I like Quillin too and I agree with most of your post, but I don't know where him being too fast for Lee is coming from. I recall you mentioning Quillin's speed before but I don't see how it's better than average.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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He is faster than Lee. That is where it's coming from.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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I'm not a huge fan of Quillin so this may appear to have some bias but I hope Lee knocks his head into a ringside bucket of popcorn. Do you want to see the definition of boxing marketing and manufacturing a contender in the boardroom? Check out the 31 boxers Quillin's beaten. In 31 fights, Gabe Rosado is the best he's faced and lets face it, beating Rosado is a rite of passage in the division, not a megafight. Rosado is like "Special Delivery" Jones from WWF days Circa 1984. Every good wrestler beat SD Jones on the way up.

With that said, Quillin should win the fight and he does have real skill that i can't deny. But, Lee is just one punch away no matter how many rounds Quillin puts in the bank. ALSO, Boxing should be a little ashamed of itself with this fight IMO. Quillin figuratively throws the world title belt in the garbage can because he won't honor a mandatory and two months later, they give him a title fight. Boxing needs to get it's shiit together.
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Lee by KO late rounds :bag:
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diddy wrote:He is faster than Lee. That is where it's coming from.
Korobov is also a little faster than Lee. Did it help him ? Did Quillin's alleged speed help him against Rosado ?
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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ikorolev wrote:
diddy wrote:He is faster than Lee. That is where it's coming from.
Korobov is also a little faster than Lee. Did it help him ? Did Quillin's alleged speed help him against Rosado ?
Korobov's chin blows. He was badly hurt by a club fighter. He can't take a good shot.
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N'Dam is the best guy Quillin fought. Not Rosado.
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diddy wrote:He is faster than Lee. That is where it's coming from.
I disagree. Quillin's speed is average at best and I think Lee at least matches him in that area.
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diddy wrote:N'Dam is the best guy Quillin fought. Not Rosado.
N'Dam selected wrong tactics. He should have fought Quillin like he fought Stevens.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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hopefully andy knocks da boring ducker ass down
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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Quillin needed all those knockdowns of N'dam just to barely win. Rosado was gettin to him too, undeniably. With that chin up so high Lee can definitely catch him, but finishing is another story. Though I do want Lee to win.
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Quillin way too much for Lee and wins in 5 one sided round's :KO:
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Quillin knows that Lee is a good counter-puncher capable of hurting him, so I expect him to be very cautious and the fight to be very boring like the first few rounds in the Korobov fight with Quillin being guaranteed a decision by hometown judges.
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How sweet would it be to see Lee KO Quitting? That would a fantastic thing to see. Not sure Lee can make it happen, but boy oh boy will I be rooting for him to derail an overly protected Haymon fighter.
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Andy is one of those guys you can't ever count out. I'd pick Peter from the day the fight got made til the day of the fight with no hesitation, but having said that Andy can pull a W from the jaws of defeat like few others.
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diddy wrote:
Korobov's chin blows. He was badly hurt by a club fighter.

Quillin was hurt bad by a club fighter too.
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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Nope.

Kid chocolate will put a beating on Lee worse than chavez jr did .
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I would love it Lee pulled out the win. But most likely Quillin takes him out in about eight rounds.

Let's be honest, Lee has never been that good. He was tooth and nail with Craig McEwan until he landed a big one and as Diddy mentioned, was clearly losing his last two fights before pulling out a big punch.

The difference here is Quillin has more power and is a much more experienced fighter than Jackson and Korobov. He'll take his time, put a beating on Lee and take him out without giving him a chance to land something big IMO.
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kidbazooka1 wrote:Nope.

Kid chocolate will put a beating on Lee worse than chavez jr did .
Pretty sure that Lee was up on the cards before the KO.

I think this may be a bit one sided, I don't see Lee being KO'd, but a wide points decision is expected.
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black panther wrote:I would love it Lee pulled out the win. But most likely Quillin takes him out in about eight rounds.

Let's be honest, Lee has never been that good. He was tooth and nail with Craig McEwan until he landed a big one and as Diddy mentioned, was clearly losing his last two fights before pulling out a big punch.

The difference here is Quillin has more power and is a much more experienced fighter than Jackson and Korobov. He'll take his time, put a beating on Lee and take him out without giving him a chance to land something big IMO.
Quillin is more experienced than Korobov who had hundreds of amateur fights ??? Their professional experience is comparable. Quillin only had two opponents (N'Dam and Rosado) who were better that the other crappy opposition both of them fought, and he barely won those fights.

Unless he stays outside for the whole fight, he will get caught, so quality of his chin (which is unknown) will be a major factor.
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ikorolev wrote:
black panther wrote:I would love it Lee pulled out the win. But most likely Quillin takes him out in about eight rounds.

Let's be honest, Lee has never been that good. He was tooth and nail with Craig McEwan until he landed a big one and as Diddy mentioned, was clearly losing his last two fights before pulling out a big punch.

The difference here is Quillin has more power and is a much more experienced fighter than Jackson and Korobov. He'll take his time, put a beating on Lee and take him out without giving him a chance to land something big IMO.
Quillin is more experienced than Korobov who had hundreds of amateur fights ??? Their professional experience is comparable. Quillin only had two opponents (N'Dam and Rosado) who were better that the other crappy opposition both of them fought, and he barely won those fights.

Unless he stays outside for the whole fight, he will get caught, so quality of his chin (which is unknown) will be a major factor.

He knocked down N'dam six times and won widely on the cards. Yes N'dam did well when he wasn't kissing canvas but I'd hardly call that Quillin barely winning! :lol:

The professional game is very different to the amateurs. It's my belief that Korobov stayed amateur too long. HOw is any way way shape or form is he as experienced as Quillin whose fought one of the best LMWs ever in Winky Wright and has been in four scheduled 12 round fight and has done 12 rounds twice?

Gotta love the current scene.
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He defeated shot Winky Wright who fought him after 3 years of inactivity.
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ikorolev wrote:Quillin only had two opponents (N'Dam and Rosado) who were better that the other crappy opposition both of them fought, and he barely won those fights.
Someone remembered it was April Fools Day :TU:
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Re: Peter Quillin vs Andy Lee

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Andy has done great with his right hook lately though there's the chance he will look for it too much now. Peter seems to do most things well and he won't be rushing in hands down or stepping straight back. Quillan on points I reckon.
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