Now that Floyd is off the duck-list, who's #1 ducker now?

[hurricanemitch14]

Khan is duckig Brook and Keith Thurman.....if he were to fight and beat either guy he would get that big fight hands down but hes chinless chump and he knows it so hes sitting back trying to talk his way into a money fight.

[koolkc107]

Golovkin, because huge fights await him in other weightclasses

[KBB]

So is Pacquiao off the duck list now too?

WHEN PAC DUCK SOMEBODY?

Be careful what you ask for:


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

That equals ducking!!

[Chepppaaa]

A. Dirrell?
Which one are you referring to?
Both have the same initial

my mistake.

andre

[Chepppaaa]

Khan is duckig Brook and Keith Thurman.....if he were to fight and beat either guy he would get that big fight hands down but hes chinless chump and he knows it so hes sitting back trying to talk his way into a money fight.

100 % this

[Crease]

Kell Brook?

You mean a guy who has only two fights experience at the top level? Loo at the chronology of the facts:
Brook only entered World Title contention in the past year, and over the past 12 months Khan has fought Luis Collazo (former WBA Welterweight Champ) and Devon Alexander (former IBF Welterweight Champ)... And it looks lie his next fight is going to be Adrien Broner.

Amir is fighting the top level of opposition. I don't thin that he is avoiding Brook, I think that the fight will come, at the moment however he is building his resume for the US.

[KBB]

Kell Brook?

You mean a guy who has only two fights experience at the top level? Loo at the chronology of the facts:
Brook only entered World Title contention in the past year, and over the past 12 months Khan has fought Luis Collazo (former WBA Welterweight Champ) and Devon Alexander (former IBF Welterweight Champ)... And it looks lie his next fight is going to be Adrien Broner.

Amir is fighting the top level of opposition. I don't thin that he is avoiding Brook, I think that the fight will come, at the moment however he is building his resume for the US.

So you're making the same excuse Khan is making in saying Brook should be fighting top level competition, well isn't that what Khan claims he is??

Brook is the one with a belt/title, Khan doesn't have jack but an unstable name and a weak ass chin. If he's so concerned with himself calling out Manny and Floyd with his instability then he should seek a world title then he'd have a chip in the game, he's not on Floyd or Manny's level, he has yet to avenge his KO losses to all who have beaten him.

[Crease]

So you're making the same excuse Khan is making

Is it "an excuse" to recognise that Khan has much, much more experience fighting for World Titles (and unifications, to boot) than Brook does. Is it "an excuse" that Khan has repeatedly called out the best possible opposition (Mayweather & Pacquaio) and it looks like his next fight will be Broner - another top American fighter.

How exactly is he running from anyone? When he's fighting A-list boxers.

in saying Brook should be fighting top level competition, well isn't that what Khan claims he is??

In regards to Brook, he has come out and said that he'll be fighting twice this summer. I wish Kell all the best of luck he might be a World Champion, but he does need to face a higher standard of opponent to get the credibility that he wants. Particularly after having a look at his mando opponent, that guy was an extremely limited fighter.

Don't get me wrong, I give Kell full credit for fulfilling his Title obligations but all fighters should be judged by the same criteria. Your only as good as the opponents that you've beat.

[cocka09]

Kell Brook?

You mean a guy who has only two fights experience at the top level? Loo at the chronology of the facts:
Brook only entered World Title contention in the past year, and over the past 12 months Khan has fought Luis Collazo (former WBA Welterweight Champ) and Devon Alexander (former IBF Welterweight Champ)... And it looks lie his next fight is going to be Adrien Broner.

Amir is fighting the top level of opposition. I don't thin that he is avoiding Brook, I think that the fight will come, at the moment however he is building his resume for the US.

But how can Kahn be going after the best in the world if there is still doubt about him being the best in his country?

[Crease]

But how can Kahn be going after the best in the world if there is still doubt about him being the best in his country?

Let me ask you this, do you genuinely believe that Brook has done enough up to this point to be rated as a better fighter then Khan?

For my part, I wouldn't think so. As I've said before, Brook is doing well and he's well on his way, but he isn't a big enough fish to demand a shot against guys who are and have been multiple World Champions like Khan.

I would tend to compare it to Froch and DeGale, if James wins the IBF Supermidlewieight TItle, does have give him the right to say that Carl Froch is avoiding him and afraid to fight him?

[cocka09]

But how can Kahn be going after the best in the world if there is still doubt about him being the best in his country?

Let me ask you this, do you genuinely believe that Brook has done enough up to this point to be rated as a better fighter then Khan?

For my part, I wouldn't think so. As I've said before, Brook is doing well and he's well on his way, but he isn't a big enough fish to demand a shot against guys who are and have been multiple World Champions like Khan.

I would tend to compare it to Froch and DeGale, if James wins the IBF Supermidlewieight TItle, does have give him the right to say that Carl Froch is avoiding him and afraid to fight him?

I don't tink he should be rated as better than Kahn but I do think he has more than proved that he is worty of a shot at him. Kahn is not a world champion, Brook is. I honestly Kahn is avoiding him because he does not want to take the risk of being known as the second best in England.

I think the Froch and DeGale situation is very different. Froch is baiscally the main man in the division, Kahn is not. Froch can get a fight with Ward, Kahn is not on Floyd or Mannys radar at the minute. So why not take the Brook fight?

[Crease]

think the Froch and DeGale situation is very different. Froch is baiscally the main man in the division, Kahn is not. Froch can get a fight with Ward, Kahn is not on Floyd or Mannys radar at the minute. So why not take the Brook fight?

You can highlight the differences if you so wish, I accept them. But there are a lot similarities in the two situations...

And Froch can't get the ward fight, he's been trying.

[KBB]

So you're making the same excuse Khan is making

Is it "an excuse" to recognise that Khan has much, much more experience fighting for World Titles (and unifications, to boot) than Brook does. Is it "an excuse" that Khan has repeatedly called out the best possible opposition (Mayweather & Pacquaio) and it looks like his next fight will be Broner - another top American fighter.

How exactly is he running from anyone? When he's fighting A-list boxers.

in saying Brook should be fighting top level competition, well isn't that what Khan claims he is??

In regards to Brook, he has come out and said that he'll be fighting twice this summer. I wish Kell all the best of luck he might be a World Champion, but he does need to face a higher standard of opponent to get the credibility that he wants. Particularly after having a look at his mando opponent, that guy was an extremely limited fighter.

Don't get me wrong, I give Kell full credit for fulfilling his Title obligations but all fighters should be judged by the same criteria. Your only as good as the opponents that you've beat.

Well how can he beat that opponent if he is unwilling to face him? I already pointed out that Khan doesn't deserve Floyd or Manny, he needs to be considering the Brooks' and not the Broners because Adrien doesn't have a belt/title, all he brings in is cash.

[hurricanemitch14]

My vote goes to Khan artist hands down.

Talk is cheap! Sure Kahn has been calling May, Pac and Cotto. Yet he is still a duck

Who exactly do you think Amir has been ducking?

Thurman and Brook.


U cant yell me hes gonna make more money fight algeiri who just got hammered and cannot punch to save his life. He would make big bucks fighting Brook. He beats either dude he would get either pacman or floyd next.

[CheckHook]

The Brook fight is always there for Khan, which is why he isn't pushing for it. Khan could notch up back to back losses this year and still make good money fighting Brook in 2016. I think the whole concept of 'ducking' is so entrenched in the sport now its hard to really care or want to single one guy out over another. They'll al weighing up risk vs reward, timing and all sorts of options before signing fights, that's why the guys at the bottom of the pile are always the most vocal and the least likely to get accused of 'ducking'... They have so much less to lose.

If I were to single one guy out as a disappointing situation, I'd have to pick Cotto. He's the lineal champion at 160 and really has no interest in fighting 160lb fighters, with his sights set firmly on the guys campaigning at 147-154. Its a disappointing situation, but again its hard to blame him for not fancying the GGG fight when he could sell his 160lb title to Floyd for huge money later this year.

[Chepppaaa]

The Brook fight is always there for Khan, which is why he isn't pushing for it. Khan could notch up back to back losses this year and still make good money fighting Brook in 2016. I think the whole concept of 'ducking' is so entrenched in the sport now its hard to really care or want to single one guy out over another. They'll al weighing up risk vs reward, timing and all sorts of options before signing fights, that's why the guys at the bottom of the pile are always the most vocal and the least likely to get accused of 'ducking'... They have so much less to lose.

If I were to single one guy out as a disappointing situation, I'd have to pick Cotto. He's the lineal champion at 160 and really has no interest in fighting 160lb fighters, with his sights set firmly on the guys campaigning at 147-154. Its a disappointing situation, but again its hard to blame him for not fancying the GGG fight when he could sell his 160lb title to Floyd for huge money later this year.

khan acts like he is the best, than fight the best, undefeated strong poer punchers like thurman, or great athletic technicians like brook. dont waste your time boxing alexander or collazo, who are miles beyond the quality of brook and thurman. fight crap and call yourself one of the best and than get a challennge by a very good boxer liek brook and dont accept it, although it obvious that it make sense legacy wise and money wise, because selling out wembley stadium would make you a whole lot of cash, that is ducking

[CheckHook]

The Brook fight is always there for Khan, which is why he isn't pushing for it. Khan could notch up back to back losses this year and still make good money fighting Brook in 2016. I think the whole concept of 'ducking' is so entrenched in the sport now its hard to really care or want to single one guy out over another. They'll al weighing up risk vs reward, timing and all sorts of options before signing fights, that's why the guys at the bottom of the pile are always the most vocal and the least likely to get accused of 'ducking'... They have so much less to lose.

If I were to single one guy out as a disappointing situation, I'd have to pick Cotto. He's the lineal champion at 160 and really has no interest in fighting 160lb fighters, with his sights set firmly on the guys campaigning at 147-154. Its a disappointing situation, but again its hard to blame him for not fancying the GGG fight when he could sell his 160lb title to Floyd for huge money later this year.

khan acts like he is the best, than fight the best, undefeated strong poer punchers like thurman, or great athletic technicians like brook. dont waste your time boxing alexander or collazo, who are miles beyond the quality of brook and thurman. fight crap and call yourself one of the best and than get a challennge by a very good boxer liek brook and dont accept it, although it obvious that it make sense legacy wise and money wise, because selling out wembley stadium would make you a whole lot of cash, that is ducking

I highly doubt Khan vs Brook would sell out Wembley, but who knows? Either way, my points still stand. Khan can take that fight after back to back losses and it still makes him good money, so he isn't going to be in any rush to cash that ticket in. Its still the same scenario with the whole 'ducking' concept. Those at the bottom of the money pile are always the warriors who are willing to face anyone, while those at the top are a little bit more selective.

[Chepppaaa]

The Brook fight is always there for Khan, which is why he isn't pushing for it. Khan could notch up back to back losses this year and still make good money fighting Brook in 2016. I think the whole concept of 'ducking' is so entrenched in the sport now its hard to really care or want to single one guy out over another. They'll al weighing up risk vs reward, timing and all sorts of options before signing fights, that's why the guys at the bottom of the pile are always the most vocal and the least likely to get accused of 'ducking'... They have so much less to lose.

If I were to single one guy out as a disappointing situation, I'd have to pick Cotto. He's the lineal champion at 160 and really has no interest in fighting 160lb fighters, with his sights set firmly on the guys campaigning at 147-154. Its a disappointing situation, but again its hard to blame him for not fancying the GGG fight when he could sell his 160lb title to Floyd for huge money later this year.

khan acts like he is the best, than fight the best, undefeated strong poer punchers like thurman, or great athletic technicians like brook. dont waste your time boxing alexander or collazo, who are miles beyond the quality of brook and thurman. fight crap and call yourself one of the best and than get a challennge by a very good boxer liek brook and dont accept it, although it obvious that it make sense legacy wise and money wise, because selling out wembley stadium would make you a whole lot of cash, that is ducking

I highly doubt Khan vs Brook would sell out Wembley, but who knows? Either way, my points still stand. Khan can take that fight after back to back losses and it still makes him good money, so he isn't going to be in any rush to cash that ticket in. Its still the same scenario with the whole 'ducking' concept. Those at the bottom of the money pile are always the warriors who are willing to face anyone, while those at the top are a little bit more selective.

than you know shit about uk boxing fans.

so you dumbhead wanna tell me that khan vs algieri would make more sense quality and financielly wise than brook vs khan in wembley, when froch vs groves was a huge success at wembley and khan a bigger name than froch and brook a bigger name than groves.....


and again, it is not true what your are saying. look at guys like oscar or pacquiao, they were at the top money wise and yes they were selectiv, but it didnt prevent them from taking on all possible great challenges like prime mosley, prime hopkins, margarito and other avoided guys......

[ajwesty13]

IF KHAN TAKES THIS FIGHT WITH CA THEN NO MORE DEFENDING KHAN IS A fornicate**G DUCKER

[CheckHook]

than you know poo about uk boxing fans.

so you dumbhead wanna tell me that khan vs algieri would make more sense quality and financielly wise than brook vs khan in wembley, when froch vs groves was a huge success at wembley and khan a bigger name than froch and brook a bigger name than groves.....


and again, it is not true what your are saying. look at guys like oscar or pacquiao, they were at the top money wise and yes they were selectiv, but it didnt prevent them from taking on all possible great challenges like prime mosley, prime hopkins, margarito and other avoided guys......

If Brook vs Khan happens in the summer I doubt it sells out Wembley, so I guess I'll just accept the fact that 'I don't know sh it about boxing, I can live with that. The rest of my points remain the same, you can disagree with the sentiment all you want, but the reality is everyone in boxing is weighing up risk vs reward, this isn't something specific to Amir Khan and isn't going to change any time soon.

[ikorolev]

I see discrimination in nominating only duckers from English speaking countries. Why isn't such an outstanding ducker as Braehmer included ???

[Chepppaaa]

than you know poo about uk boxing fans.

so you dumbhead wanna tell me that khan vs algieri would make more sense quality and financielly wise than brook vs khan in wembley, when froch vs groves was a huge success at wembley and khan a bigger name than froch and brook a bigger name than groves.....


and again, it is not true what your are saying. look at guys like oscar or pacquiao, they were at the top money wise and yes they were selectiv, but it didnt prevent them from taking on all possible great challenges like prime mosley, prime hopkins, margarito and other avoided guys......

If Brook vs Khan happens in the summer I doubt it sells out Wembley, so I guess I'll just accept the fact that 'I don't know sh it about boxing, I can live with that. The rest of my points remain the same, you can disagree with the sentiment all you want, but the reality is everyone in boxing is weighing up risk vs reward, this isn't something specific to Amir Khan and isn't going to change any time soon.

stop your crap with risk and reward. at high level boxing anything can happen. its boxing, you will get punched in the face anyway. boxers like amir and fans like you are bad for boxing. because fans like you justify was cant be justified and thats being a fu&/(ing ducking pu&%/y......either you accept being punched in the face and fight the best, or you dont wanna get punched at all and have 0 challenges coming at you, is also fine for me, than quit boxing.

[Crease]

Well how can he beat that opponent if he is unwilling to face him?

You and I both know that there are other fights out there for Brook. It's not going to be difficult for Kell to attract a good fighter because of his World Title, and I would also add his unbeaten record to that. Everyone likes to take a man's 0 for his record.
Just off the top of my head, Kell could call out Malignaggi, Berto, Guerrero, Ortiz or maybe even someone with a massive name - someone like Marquez or Tim Bradley.

And all these options are there for Kell.

I already pointed out that Khan doesn't deserve Floyd or Manny,

That's only your opinion. Mine would be that Khan should be amongst the forerunners to fight Floyd or Pac next. The guy is an experienced fghter in World Title fights and he's earned his shot a lot more than some of Floyd's opponents:
Victor Ortiz (won 1 World Title fight)
Carlos Baldomir (won 2 World Title fights)
Marcos Maidana (won 2 "full" World Title fights)

There's a strong arguement to say that Floyd meets fighters when they are either too young, naive and the fights always comes too soon for them or that he meets great fighters when they are too old and past-their-best.

[Chepppaaa]

I see discrimination in nominating only duckers from English speaking countries. Why isn't such an outstanding ducker as Braehmer included ???

brähmer is not on the same level of adonis or kovalev. he would have 0 chance. he is a b level boxer who fights c-b level opponents and thats totaly okay, he fights guys who are in his league. the difference between him and adonis, cause adonis is a level and a level should fight a level, like bertebiev or kovalev.

you are a ducker, when you dont fight the guys of the same quality level of yours. nobody expects from a d level journeyman to call out golovkin and beat his ass.

[Chepppaaa]

Well how can he beat that opponent if he is unwilling to face him?

You and I both know that there are other fights out there for Brook. It's not going to be difficult for Kell to attract a good fighter because of his World Title, and I would also add his unbeaten record to that. Everyone likes to take a man's 0 for his record.
Just off the top of my head, Kell could call out Malignaggi, Berto, Guerrero, Ortiz or maybe even someone with a massive name - someone like Marquez or Tim Bradley.

And all these options are there for Kell.

I already pointed out that Khan doesn't deserve Floyd or Manny,

That's only your opinion. Mine would be that Khan should be amongst the forerunners to fight Floyd or Pac next. The guy is an experienced fghter in World Title fights and he's earned his shot a lot more than some of Floyd's opponents:
Victor Ortiz (won 1 World Title fight)
Carlos Baldomir (won 2 World Title fights)
Marcos Maidana (won 2 "full" World Title fights)

There's a strong arguement to say that Floyd meets fighters when they are either too young, naive and the fights always comes too soon for them or that he meets great fighters when they are too old and past-their-best.

so much crap in just 1 post, extraordinary..

why should unbeaten champ top 5 rated welterweight brook fight a shit boxer who lost 3 out of his 4 last fights in ortiz ??????????????
why should unbeaten champ top 5 rated welterweight brook fight a feather fisted totaly overrated nobody like malignaggi ??????????

why doesnt it get in your head that khan and brook at are top uk fighters and that so many people from england wanna see that fight
and that it would be a massive attraction in any big football stadium in england ?????????????

and how can you put amir khan in aserious discussion against either floyd or pac, when it is totaly unclear if they will fight again after their 300 million dollar fight ???????????