List of Pacquiao’s Excuses?

[aran_boparai]

Mayweather said in a few interviews that all the trash talk was for promotion, this fight he don't need to. Maybe, he is nervous? Maybe Pacquaios camp is more nervous knowing the task that's coming up, truth is f*** knows I'm a Pacquiao fan more than Mayweather but his skill and class will just nullify anything new Pacquaio will try to do in this fight, I think the media may have over exaggerated on some of those points Thats why the locking down the media from the gym for a while

[SFW]

Floyd knows he has the biggest test of his career. And the past wins mean nothing now, it all rides on this.. so he's preparing for the ultimate test. No nonsense just training for the best Manny Pacquiao. He knows he has the edge, and a win is the likely outcome should he play it smart.n words left to say, we've had 5+ years of words..

All the dribble coming out of the Pacquiao camp is chaotic, and that's how Manny likes it. RJJ was the same way, they focused better when they had a lot going on.. I wouldn't pay much attention to the whining, it's been the same rants over and over every fight

[ReggieDiggs]

In Manny's defense these sound like Freddie's excuses not Manny's.

And fml Freddie just won't shutup this time around. I'm not even sure Freddie is training Manny anymore cuz surely he can't be training Manny & getting 8 stories out a day ffs can he?

[caldo2025]

"Roach Admits Concern Over Mayweather-Pacquiao Ref"

What a great post here fergusg. Admittedly, I am a Pacquaio fan but also a realist that feels that he has a very slim chance of winning this fight. Just look at all those Roach quotes that you listed. I am not sure what he's trying to prove by doing this but he's failing all around in his attempt to get bad blood flowing through his fighters veins. Roach needs to realize that this fight is on a level that even he has no experience with. I truly feel that no other fight in the history of the sport contained this much skill from both boxers.

With that said, I do feel that he has a great concern when it comes to the referee for this fight. This is a home game for Floyd and don't think that he doesn't have any say over officials and judges. He owns boxing in Nevada and that was clearly on display with his two fights with Chico Maidana. Have you ever seen a boxer dictate his opponents boxing gloves on fight night like that? Holding a huge payday over them until they agreed to change to a different glove that they had not trained with? That's like taking the mitt away from a gold glove shortstop in the World Series. The worst was what happened in the second fight, IMO:

*In their first fight, referee Tony Weeks let Maidana and Floyd fight most of the fight on the ropes. As a good ref must do, if any of their hands are free then they are left to fight without breaking. This clearly favored the stronger Maidana and the fight was very close. In the second fight, Kenny Baylis would not allow the fight on the ropes for a second. He was breaking them up while they had each of their hands free. It was maddening to me because it was clear to me that Floyd coached Baylis up before the fight and even mentioned it in the prefight meeting on live tv.

That is the BS that i hope doesn't rear it's ugly head in this contest. I doubt the fight will be fought on the ropes but i just hope that the ref is calling it clean and let the action naturally take place. Other than this factor though, Roach needs to just realize his dumb comments aren't helping his fighter and his comments are rookie bs.

[ReggieDiggs]

In Manny's defense these sound like Freddie's excuses not Manny's

To be fair, the media realise that Manny Pacquiao isn't a reliable source to quote

What?!?! Manny gets quoted all the time. The media will quote Manny's dog farting if it sounds close enough to an English language word.

The only thing going on this time around is Freddie is talking to the media like he has less than 30 days til he becomes irrelevant on the big stage in boxing or that he's reached his peak in the sport & its all downhill starting on May 3.

I mean if you look at what Freddie is saying he's saying EVERYTHING lol. Manny is gonna beat the sh!t outta Floyd. Floyd is getting beat up in training. Leg cramps. Ref blah blah blah. Secret ninja sparring partners. He's not left very many angles unturned just being objective about the situation. You don't even gotta come biased about Freddie to see he's a talking machine, for some reason, this time around.

Bottom line though is almost every fighter gots some excuses when they lose cuz its kinda how you gotta be, mindset-wise, in a highly competitive sport like boxing. You can't work day in, day out to your maximum capability or go into the ring with as much confidence as you need thinking you are the 2nd best fighter in there. And when it happens that you lose admitting that you were 2nd best, for some verbally & for others inside their own head, simply because you were 2nd best & not for some other reason isn't a pill you can swallow & still keep the level of confidence you need for the next time you enter the ring. If Manny loses it won't likely be simply because he was 2nd best on May 2 & if Floyd loses it won't likely be simply because he was 2nd best on May 2 in their own opinions. Its nothing new.

[KBB]

"Roach Admits Concern Over Mayweather-Pacquiao Ref"

What a great post here fergusg. Admittedly, I am a Pacquaio fan but also a realist that feels that he has a very slim chance of winning this fight. Just look at all those Roach quotes that you listed. I am not sure what he's trying to prove by doing this but he's failing all around in his attempt to get bad blood flowing through his fighters veins. Roach needs to realize that this fight is on a level that even he has no experience with. I truly feel that no other fight in the history of the sport contained this much skill from both boxers.

With that said, I do feel that he has a great concern when it comes to the referee for this fight. This is a home game for Floyd and don't think that he doesn't have any say over officials and judges. He owns boxing in Nevada and that was clearly on display with his two fights with Chico Maidana. Have you ever seen a boxer dictate his opponents boxing gloves on fight night like that? Holding a huge payday over them until they agreed to change to a different glove that they had not trained with? That's like taking the mitt away from a gold glove shortstop in the World Series. The worst was what happened in the second fight, IMO:

*In their first fight, referee Tony Weeks let Maidana and Floyd fight most of the fight on the ropes. As a good ref must do, if any of their hands are free then they are left to fight without breaking. This clearly favored the stronger Maidana and the fight was very close. In the second fight, Kenny Baylis would not allow the fight on the ropes for a second. He was breaking them up while they had each of their hands free. It was maddening to me because it was clear to me that Floyd coached Baylis up before the fight and even mentioned it in the prefight meeting on live tv.

That is the BS that i hope doesn't rear it's ugly head in this contest. I doubt the fight will be fought on the ropes but i just hope that the ref is calling it clean and let the action naturally take place. Other than this factor though, Roach needs to just realize his dumb comments aren't helping his fighter and his comments are rookie bs.

To answer your biased question above, the simple answer is "YES"!! Oscar dictated heavily what would happen in his championship fights against everyone he fought (except when he fought Pacquiao/he wasn't a champion then). Oscar dictated everything and if you didn't agree, you didn't get the fight!!

Stop allowing the silliness you've expressed to trick yourself into believing that what you've stated is grounds or reasoning for Mayweather being able to have some type of advantage, if you are going to believe that garbage then you may as well have believed Floyd when he stated Manny was on PEDS and all the reasons he gave.

Roach is fearful and anyone who says those are not Manny's excuses is wrong!! Manny can speak for himself, he doesn't have to say everything in English when speaking to the Press/Media, he can ask for an Interpreter so that they can convey his own personal feelings about the things that Freddie have been saying but as far as I'm concerned if he allows whatever Roach says to stand without speaking to it then he is in agreement with it.

Manny is fearful and thereby allowing all the excuses to be made so when he loses his fans will undoubtedly pick up the ball and run with it.

[koolkc107]

This IS a great OP.

And these things may be the most accurate indicator of how the Wild Card camp really feel about their chances.

We all know that guy who pops a lot of BS, overcompensates with overconfidence because deep down he know he doesn't rate.

More and more, I see this right as a one-sided rout...and I think Roach and Manny know the beatdown is coming from Floyd too in their heart of hearts.

[Ricky_]

Oscar dictated heavily what would happen in his championship fights against everyone he fought (except when he fought Pacquiao/he wasn't a champion then).

[tiny_acres]

Oscar dictated heavily what would happen in his championship fights against everyone he fought (except when he fought Pacquiao/he wasn't a champion then).

Ricky laughs because he has nothing to argue.He knows it is true.

[Ricky_]

Oscar not calling the shots vs Pacquiao is pretty funny. Idiots.

[IRLangmaid25]

We might as well throw Zou Shiming in there as well as Freddie Roach worked the corner for Shiming in his Flyweight title shot in Macau, so not doing a full camp with Roach could be another one.

[KBB]

Oscar not calling the shots vs Pacquiao is pretty funny. Idiots.

Did he call the shots on the weight? Did he??

[Badhusker]

Spy Drone flying over Pac's camp recently. Must be Floyd's team, because he is scared.

[Ricky_]

Oscar not calling the shots vs Pacquiao is pretty funny. Idiots.

Did he call the shots on the weight? Did he??

Yes.

[KBB]

Oscar not calling the shots vs Pacquiao is pretty funny. Idiots.

Did he call the shots on the weight? Did he??

Yes.

You are so full of sh*t it's coming out of your ears:


De La Hoya wanted the contract weight to be 150 pounds; Pacquiao (who had weighed 129 for his junior-lightweight title defense against Juan Manuel Marquez earlier in the year) would go no higher than 147. Oscar wanted the bout to be contested with ten-ounce gloves; Manny preferred eight-ounces. And De La Hoya wanted as much money as he could get, while Pacquiao wanted as much money as he could get.

On August 13th, Schaefer and Bob Arum (Pacquiao’s promoter) confirmed that Oscar had given in on the issues of weight and gloves but that negotiations had broken down over the division of revenue. Team De La Hoya was seeking a 70-30 split in its favor. Team Pacquiao would go no further than 60-40.

Thus, on August 21st, Golden Boy sweetened the pot by offering a 67-33 revenue split and Team Pacquiao accepted.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thoma ... -of-boxing

The source is none other than the 3rd biggest Pacquiao nuthugger on the planet (right behind you as #1 and Skip Bayless as #2).

[Ricky_]

Nobody had even heard of Pacquiao and Oscar was the biggest draw of all time. What an utter clown you are brut.

[caldo2025]

Stop allowing the silliness you've expressed to trick yourself into believing that what you've stated is grounds or reasoning for Mayweather being able to have some type of advantage, if you are going to believe that garbage then you may as well have believed Floyd when he stated Manny was on PEDS and all the reasons he gave

Not since Frank Sinatra has one person meant so much to Las Vegas so if you think that Floyd doesn't get preferential treatment of some sort in every one of his fights than you are a fool, plain and simple. Did Ali every threaten to take his ball and go home if Joe Frazier didn't change his gloves? Floyd has brought billions of dollars to boxing and Las Vegas and pulls the puppet strings on both and has been for years. Floyd even owns these Boxing Organizations. How can he be Champion of the WBA and WBO in two weight divisions? This was illegal until Floyd decided he's above the law. I bet he's never fought a mandatory challenger in the last 10 years. With 3 weeks left until the fight, i'm sure that Floyd will come up with some kind of bush league reason to put the fight in jeopardy unless he gets his way. So PLEASE don't say Floyd doesn't have any advantage going into this fight because you would have to be clueless not to notice. It's a HUGE advantage in so many ways so stop being crazy now.

Manny probably was on steroids, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, but how you can figure that into this conversation is a desperate reach and doesn't even make sense so try again. To gain back some credibility, just admit the above is true and give an unbiased view of the facts for once. It's ok, your Floyd lunchbox will still be on the kitchen table tomorrow morning.

[Ricky_]

I have to admit that I’m not considered an intellectual power-house

Quite.

I have never in my life witnessed such bizarre behaviour during the build-up of any fight!

That's because you don't know much about boxing.

[BoxBuzz]

I have to admit that I’m not considered an intellectual power-house

Quite.

I have never in my life witnessed such bizarre behaviour during the build-up of any fight!

That's because you don't know much about boxing.

Hey Ricky.......bring your better angels to the conversation.....if you don't mind.

[ajwesty13]

What?!?! Manny gets quoted all the time. The media will quote Manny's dog farting if it sounds close enough to an English language word.

The only thing going on this time around is Freddie is talking to the media like he has less than 30 days til he becomes irrelevant on the big stage in boxing or that he's reached his peak in the sport & its all downhill starting on May 3.

I mean if you look at what Freddie is saying he's saying EVERYTHING lol. Manny is gonna beat the sh!t outta Floyd. Floyd is getting beat up in training. Leg cramps. Ref blah blah blah. Secret ninja sparring partners. He's not left very many angles unturned just being objective about the situation. You don't even gotta come biased about Freddie to see he's a talking machine, for some reason, this time around.

Bottom line though is almost every fighter gots some excuses when they lose cuz its kinda how you gotta be, mindset-wise, in a highly competitive sport like boxing. You can't work day in, day out to your maximum capability or go into the ring with as much confidence as you need thinking you are the 2nd best fighter in there. And when it happens that you lose admitting that you were 2nd best, for some verbally & for others inside their own head, simply because you were 2nd best & not for some other reason isn't a pill you can swallow & still keep the level of confidence you need for the next time you enter the ring. If Manny loses it won't likely be simply because he was 2nd best on May 2 & if Floyd loses it won't likely be simply because he was 2nd best on May 2 in their own opinions. Its nothing new.

Staying out of this one but this made me giggle. ..

[KBB]

Stop allowing the silliness you've expressed to trick yourself into believing that what you've stated is grounds or reasoning for Mayweather being able to have some type of advantage, if you are going to believe that garbage then you may as well have believed Floyd when he stated Manny was on PEDS and all the reasons he gave

Not since Frank Sinatra has one person meant so much to Las Vegas so if you think that Floyd doesn't get preferential treatment of some sort in every one of his fights than you are a fool, plain and simple. Did Ali every threaten to take his ball and go home if Joe Frazier didn't change his gloves? Floyd has brought billions of dollars to boxing and Las Vegas and pulls the puppet strings on both and has been for years. Floyd even owns these Boxing Organizations. How can he be Champion of the WBA and WBO in two weight divisions? This was illegal until Floyd decided he's above the law. I bet he's never fought a mandatory challenger in the last 10 years. With 3 weeks left until the fight, i'm sure that Floyd will come up with some kind of bush league reason to put the fight in jeopardy unless he gets his way. So PLEASE don't say Floyd doesn't have any advantage going into this fight because you would have to be clueless not to notice. It's a HUGE advantage in so many ways so stop being crazy now.

Manny probably was on steroids, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, but how you can figure that into this conversation is a desperate reach and doesn't even make sense so try again. To gain back some credibility, just admit the above is true and give an unbiased view of the facts for once. It's ok, your Floyd lunchbox will still be on the kitchen table tomorrow morning.

Wow this is some serious comedic BS here but I guess I can try and entertain your foolery, it appears your only/sole agenda is to hate on Floyd and not really address the list of Pacquiao's excuses which are and have been placed here in abundance.

Floyd is the Champion of the WBA and WBO in two weight divisions because he beat the fighters who had those titles and earned them rightfully and for you to say "he owns those Boxing Divisions" only goes to show how little you know because those organizations are made up of many members like a board and no one person "owns" them although they do have a President who "presides" over them but does not "own" them.

I really had to LOL at your feeble insult attempts about the lunchbox ordeal, that is as comical as you stating that Mayweather owns the WBA and WBO.

If Floyd had so much "ownership" of Vegas like you say then he would've had his license as a Promoter years ago and without a vote, he would've also ensured that his Uncle Roger would have never been suspended for a year as well for that debacle with Zab and his father.

I'll give you credit though you do have a great sense of creativity in making up generic reasons to assume that they are facts that somehow depict the so called "influence" and "ownership" of things in Vegas you seem to conjure up out of thin air as to what you ASS-ume that Floyd supposedly has.

Keep going with your fantasies even if they are OT, you'd make a good story writer for fiction comic books.

[caldo2025]

Floyd is the Champion of the WBA and WBO in two weight divisions because he beat the fighters who had those titles and earned them rightfully and for you to say "he owns those Boxing Divisions" only goes to show how little you know because those organizations are made up of many members like a board and no one person "owns" them although they do have a President who "presides" over them but does not "own" them.

You are knowledgable enough in the sport to know that it has not been possible, by rule, to own the same belts in multiple weight classes. Every other fighter has been forced to vacate one the belts. But not Mayweather. Why is that? You CLAIM that Floyd doesn't reap any benefits or preferential treatment but there's one staring at you in the face but you now play dumb like you didn't know. If you truly didn't know then I suggest you take a look and offer up some of your reasoning behind which i'm sure will unbiased.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, Floyd Mayweather Jr is the best boxer I have ever seen. I don't feel that he needs the added advantages that he gets in these fights but i can't deny the fact that he gets them. I think that in a fight like this, that advantage might be a little more important than in other contests because Manny represents the toughest challenger Floyd will have ever faced. 5 years ago, Floyd would have mopped the decks with Manny but I think this fight will be a lot closer and some advantages that Floyd gets could be the difference. We shall see what those advantages are as we get closer to fight night. You will see and I will be back to remind you of what you see.

[KBB]

You are knowledgable enough in the sport to know that it has not been possible, by rule, to own the same belts in multiple weight classes. Every other fighter has been forced to vacate one the belts. But not Mayweather. Why is that? You CLAIM that Floyd doesn't reap any benefits or preferential treatment but there's one staring at you in the face but you now play dumb like you didn't know. If you truly didn't know then I suggest you take a look and offer up some of your reasoning behind which i'm sure will unbiased.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, Floyd Mayweather Jr is the best boxer I have ever seen. I don't feel that he needs the added advantages that he gets in these fights but i can't deny the fact that he gets them. I think that in a fight like this, that advantage might be a little more important than in other contests because Manny represents the toughest challenger Floyd will have ever faced. 5 years ago, Floyd would have mopped the decks with Manny but I think this fight will be a lot closer and some advantages that Floyd gets could be the difference. We shall see what those advantages are as we get closer to fight night. You will see and I will be back to remind you of what you see.

To answer your question, because no fighter has beaten him...plain and simple. Sure there have been fighters who have been stripped but don't act as if this is the first time you've seen these boxing organizations do strange things, the WBA with their Super Champions, Champions and things like Champions Emeritus are all designed to show favoritism towards the fighters who hold those titles.

If I recall Klitschko retired and they still allowed him to maintain a title (Champion Emeritus) and come back to fight as though he never lost his title in the ring (which in reality he hadn't).

I see that it is a problem for you though because it is Floyd Mayweather we're speaking about, if it was Manny I hardly doubt you'd back an eyelash about it.

Please come back to remind us of what you see after the fight, you are going to be singing the same tune you would have 5-6 years ago about this fight. Do not be surprised by the utter one-sidedness of this bout.

[Pureist]

He doesn't have to vacate because he hasn't been beaten, what a load of crap, floyd drives the gravy train in Vegas for all the officials, without him those officials don't make as much money, please your blinded by love, what about defending against your mandatory, is that also because he hasn't been beaten, mundine is floyds mandatory after beating rabchenko, do you think he will fight mundine, do you think he will be stripped for not fighting mundine, Klitchko fought Leapai in his mandatory, leapai was 10 levels below but Klitchko still had to fight him, your an ignorant fool if you think floyd doesn't recieve preferential treatment, if pacquaio wins 8 rounds of the fight and it goes to the scorecards I bet floyd gets the decision, tell me your thoughts, did floyd lose against Castillo in their first fight, I'm not talking about the scorecards, I'm asking YOUR opinion

[KBB]

He doesn't have to vacate because he hasn't been beaten, what a load of crap, floyd drives the gravy train in Vegas for all the officials, without him those officials don't make as much money, please your blinded by love, what about defending against your mandatory, is that also because he hasn't been beaten, mundine is floyds mandatory after beating rabchenko, do you think he will fight mundine, do you think he will be stripped for not fighting mundine, Klitchko fought Leapai in his mandatory, leapai was 10 levels below but Klitchko still had to fight him, your an ignorant fool if you think floyd doesn't recieve preferential treatment, if pacquaio wins 8 rounds of the fight and it goes to the scorecards I bet floyd gets the decision, tell me your thoughts, did floyd lose against Castillo in their first fight, I'm not talking about the scorecards, I'm asking YOUR opinion

Here are my thoughts, first you don't have to be an insulting asshole to have a decent conversation with me; second if Manny wins 8 rounds he will win the fight easily and will get the W rightfully so.

Did Maidana get a Draw on one of the judges scorecards in their fight?? So, was Floyd more loved than Oscar and had Vegas in his back pocket when he rightfully won that fight even though it wasn't nowhere near as close as they made it out to be as a Split Decision?

See, your problem here is that you just come here to hate and blindly I might add too. Personally I thought I he lost the first fight with Castillo (this is something I've always said), I thought Zab should've been credited with a knockdown vs Mayweather and the reason I can honestly say things like this as I tend to do all the time is because I'm a fair and honest person who happens to be an unbiased fan.

Sure I love the style of boxing that Floyd brings in the ring and I think for the most part he's been a nuisance and asshole outside of it sometimes but I think some of that can be contributed to him trying to establish a persona in order to market himself and the other part I think stems from a lack of proper moral upbringing (his father was in jail for selling drugs).

I know you don't like me but that's because you really don't know me and you think reading crap I post here makes you some type of expert on what you "think" you know about me then you really have me all wrong.

Like I said, there may be some rule bending going on for Floyd but this is boxing and it doesn't only happen in Vegas or solely for Mayweather and when it comes to the things that sanctioning bodies like the WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF and the rest do to pad their pockets then I don't really see them doing it for the fighter's benefit but moreso for their own.

Why else would these organizations charge sanctioning fees and ridiculous amounts like $600,000 for a belt? Who gets that money? The fighter sure doesn't, their the ones who pay those fees. So I ask you, do you think they are doing this for the fighter's benefit or their own???