Manny Is No Angel

[koolkc107]

I have been seeing a lot of threads started about Floyd Mayweather's behavior outside the ring.

I am starting this one not as a rebuttal for those threads but in the interests of a more balanced view of the context in which this fight is taking place.

In other words, if we are going to say "So and so is no choirboy", we'd better be able to talk about both fighters.

This is a good article. It verifies the overall truth of Manny as a womanizing degenerate gambler and adulterer.

That changed for her in 2003 when Pacquiao knocked out Marco Antonio Barrera in San Antonio.
“That time I feel that, ‘Oh, Manny’s really famous,’ ” she said. “This is not only the Philippines. This is the whole world. This is very different. So is our lifestyle. And the people surrounding us also.”
She spoke plainly about what happened next, without emotion: the all-night gambling binges, the cock farm he owned in the Philippines, the “cheating” and “all the girls.” She said he “did not spend much time” with their four children. (She is currently pregnant with their fifth.)
Pacquiao spoke in general terms about this period. He said he was different now but did not elaborate. His promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank Boxing, confirmed the gambling part of Jinkee’s account. He described Pacquiao as “like a degenerate gambler” who played several types of games and “always lost.”
Jinkee said: “What I’ve been through, it’s very hard for me. I counted. It’s 11 years that I’m struggling with our marriage.”
In those 11 years, Pacquiao won title after title, moving up in weight classes, his style savage and relentless. He became a congressman in the Philippines, despite the chaos that surrounded him.
Now, Jinkee has her own endorsements. She is also an elected official, chosen, she said, by Pacquiao because he did not want to pick between two friends who wanted his support. She won election easily.
The low point came in November 2011, when Pacquiao clashed with Juan Manuel Marquez for a third time. Pacquiao won by decision, but unconvincingly, and afterward, as a doctor stitched a deep cut above his right eye, Jinkee scolded him in Tagalog. She repeated “bad Manny” in English as they recited some of the Ten Commandments — “thou shalt not commit adultery” included — and organized a Bible study session upon their return home.
Pacquiao had planned a recommitment ceremony for the next day, but Jinkee refused to participate. She said she had asked him for a separation. The boxer’s life was in turmoil.
It is impossible to know how much he actually changed afterward, but the entourage seems smaller, the vibe more relaxed. Roach asked Jinkee the other day if she was happy. She said yes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/23/sport ... .html?_r=0

This is about rumors he was involved in political assassination.

The Manila Bulletin reported yesterday that welterweight titlist and international superstar Manny Pacquiao has been linked to an "attempted ambush" of a mayor in the Philippines. One of the vehicles used in the attempt is allegedly registered to Pacquiao's wife, Jinkee. The fighter has denied the charges that he was affiliated with the crime:

But Pacquiao, standard bearer of People’s Champ Movement, said the attempt to link him to the assassination try on Glan town mayor Enrique Yap Jr. was politically-motivated aimed at tainting his candidacy which has been gaining on his rival businessman Roy Chiongbian.

The two Toyota vans with plate numbers RBR 709 and MDM 577 were seized by the authorities from the suspects who allegedly attempted to ambush Yap.

Also taken from the suspects were an Armalite rifle and a .45 caliber pistol.

"These unfounded charges against me came out as a result of the recent survey which showed my candidacy was faring well against my opponent," Pacquiao said.

Pacquiao went on to further explain the possibility, which he does not deny, of the vehicle being registered to his wife:

Local television reports here showed Pacquiao denying involvement on the attempted ambush on Mayor Yap. Pacquiao did not discount the possibility though that they own the vans but explained that it could be one of their many vans in their transportation business which is being managed by Jinky.

Doesn't sound like this is going to be a big event for Pacquiao, but you never know, I suppose.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/4/28/14 ... h-of-mayor

This is a political ally of Pacquiao involved in a killing similar to the one above

The late Perrett was driving home after delivering a speech at the municipal gym when he was waylaid by an undetermined number of men armed with M-16 and M-14 rifles and .45 caliber pistols.

Although wounded in the thigh, Perrett was able to drive his black Fortuner to the police checkpoint where he was given first aid. He was rushed to the hospital in General Santos City but died of cardiac arrest due to severe loss of blood.

http://www.rappler.com/nation/55681-pac ... -complaint

This is about his gambling addiction. Supposedly he has beat it.

Many gamblers in Las Vegas have made a lot of money betting on Manny Pacquiao to win fights in recent years.

Pacquiao apparently isn’t a good gambler himself.

The alarming extent of Pacquiao’s gambling problem was detailed in a Sports Illustrated article that hit newsstands Wednesday. One Pacquiao associate told SI’s Chris Mannix that Pacquiao, who has made between $20 million and $30 million per fight during the peak of his celebrated career, once asked promoter Bob Arum for a $2 million advance on one of his purses to pay off gambling debts. Arum acknowledged that he wired hundreds of thousands of dollars to casinos “five or six times” to help Pacquiao pay his debts.

http://www.BS.com/pacquiaos-ga ... ore--53751

Here is Manny, a confirmed adulterer and father of out of wedlock child while married, making moral statements about gay people.

Pacquiao continues: "God only expects man and woman to be together and to be legally married, only if they so are in love with each other."

"It should not be of the same sex so as to adulterate the altar of matrimony, like in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah of Old."

http://laist.com/2012/05/16/manny_pacqu ... iage_r.php

[diddy]

Manny has been cheating on her for years. She's only still with him because he's filthy, dirty rich. It's not just about their kids - if they were to divorce she would surely win custody - it's about the money, always is.

[Ricky_]

Pacquiao was the brains behind a political assassination. I've heard it all now.

[phillykid]

so you think cheating on your wife is equivalent to beating the mother of your kids in front of your kids? and you think this is a "balanced view"?

yeah, OP you're a fornicating idiot.

[tiny_acres]

The people that blindly accept Manny's sainthood are no better than the idiots who do
the same for Floyd.
They both have skeletons in their closets.Hell they may even have entire cemetaries in
there for all we know.

[FloydtheDuck]

Just when I thought the bnovelist guy starts the worst whiny threads on here

This guy comes in here and takes his crown


Congrats. You're P4P #1 retard now

[Monte Fisto]

At least there's a sense of humour in bnovs posts.

[Badhusker]

Interesting article on Floyd's abuse charge. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... 49219.html
The same lady that filed the charge admitted lying about the same thing previously. I'm not saying she lied this time, but it may be blown up to be more than it is.
The thing is, Manny is seen by the public as the saint, but is far from it. Both are prima donnas that look out for number one. Good vs evil is always a good sell though.

[KBB]

Just when I thought the bnovelist guy starts the worst whiny threads on here

This guy comes in here and takes his crown


Congrats. You're P4P #1 retard now

Why? Because he made a thread that speaks the truth about your hero? You haven't offered anything to disprove anything he's quoted from other sources, he didn't make up any of the stuff he stated but got it from credible sources.

It is a constant thing here to read posts from people like yourself that have nothing tangible to add so you start hurling insults or attacking one's character as though that somehow dispels the truths that he has posted.

Fine, you don't agree then just say you don't but you don't have to be a dumb asshole that results to insults when someone doesn't agree with you.

Manny is a piece of sh*t, far worse than Floyd but just because he doesn't talk sh*t he gets a pass when in reality he is as fake as a 3 cent foodstamp.

[MachoTime]

Hilarious stuff forget the National Enquirer and all the other rag mags in the supermarket checkout. Geez I might get rid of my cable reading entertainment like this..better than T.V for Christ Sakes...

[Ricky_]

Just when I thought the bnovelist guy starts the worst whiny threads on here

This guy comes in here and takes his crown


Congrats. You're P4P #1 retard now

Why? Because he made a thread that speaks the truth about your hero? You haven't offered anything to disprove anything he's quoted from other sources, he didn't make up any of the stuff he stated but got it from credible sources.

It is a constant thing here to read posts from people like yourself that have nothing tangible to add so you start hurling insults or attacking one's character as though that somehow dispels the truths that he has posted.

Fine, you don't agree then just say you don't but you don't have to be a dumb asshole that results to insults when someone doesn't agree with you.

Manny is a piece of sh*t, far worse than Floyd but just because he doesn't talk sh*t he gets a pass when in reality he is as fake as a 3 cent foodstamp.

Do you think Pacquiao is a murderer as mentioned in the OP?

[AntonS]

Keep your cool gents. I deleted libellous accusation & subsequent posts quoting accusation. Any more of it & I'll lock it or even ditch it. Cheers
http://boxrec.com/forum/memberlist.php? ... oup&g=1338

[fanman]

Pacquiao was the brains behind a political assassination. I've heard it all now.

right. Maybe floyd should give him a beating for 'slain politicians everywhere'.

[ReggieDiggs]

Why would you give a f#ck if Manny is or isn't a angel? Or Floyd or whoever?

Be a fan or don't be a fan of a boxer. Enjoy or don't enjoy watching them in the ring. Don't be a momo & worry about their personal out of the ring bs though.

[Ricky_]

Keep your cool gents. I deleted libellous accusation & subsequent posts quoting accusation. Any more of it & I'll lock it or even ditch it. Cheers
http://boxrec.com/forum/memberlist.php? ... oup&g=1338

The op still accuses Pacquaio of being complicit in a political assassination.... yet posts relating Mayweathers A samples get pulled!

[AntonS]

Your post was reported. I had a look at it, ditched it & all subsequent posts containing your post. Consider yourself lucky you didn't score a formal warning & 7 days holiday. I recommend you're careful what you post from now on.

[IRLangmaid25]

We all portray these people as supermen, but interned they have feet of clay and vices like the rest of us.

[AntonS]

For obvious reasons we must disallow libellous accusations. Anyone that wants to be brave, can post them in twitter etc under their true full name.

[AntonS]

Our ban/suspension policy:-

We have a 3 strike policy. Therefore, upon their third warning they shall receive a ban (the length of the ban is at Moderator's discretion, depending on the severity of the offence). If they receive a warning again upon their return from a ban then they shall be permanently banned.

[ReggieDiggs]

For obvious reasons we must disallow libellous accusations. Anyone that wants to be brave, can post them in twitter etc under their true full name.

I'm definitely of the opinion getting this deep into any boxers personal life is some momo sh!t (unless someone hit your daughter or apparently killed your brother, of course), BUT is it really libellous to talk about some sh!t other people wrote a story about & its clearly labeled as a rumor &/or has a link to that person's story? Seems like that would make the news reporting on or potentially anyone randomly talking about a libellous claim a whole new libellous claim lawsuit for the person claiming as such. It would in theory be a never ending cycle lol.

[AntonS]

Links to media reports is that site's problem not ours. However, if a member of this forum resorts to defamatory comments, we might have a problem. Such was a case a while ago with one high profile promoter.
We need to keep our backside on safe side....so to speak ;;-) After reading from A >Z I failed to see why I shouldn't lock it.