Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight

[Chepppaaa]

by quality, when they were in prime time shape. I go first.

Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Antonio Tarver
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
Dariusz Michalczewski
Artur Beterbiev
Sergey Kovalev
Adonis Stevenson

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1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Adonis Stevenson
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Chad Dawson
6. Antonio Tarver
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Jean Pascal
9. Dariusz Michalczewski
10. Bernard Hopkins

[fanman]

Interesting. I believe you will get some wildly diverging opinions.

1. Chad Dawson
2. Roy Jones Jr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Antonio Tarver
6. Sergey Kovalev
7. Dariusz Michalczewski
8. Adonis Stevenson
9. Jean Pascal
10. Artur Beterbiev - I havn't seen him but hear great things

[Chepppaaa]

Interesting. I believe you will get some wildly diverging opinions.

1. Chad Dawson
2. Roy Jones Jr
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Antonio Tarver
6. Sergey Kovalev
7. Dariusz Michalczewski
8. Adonis Stevenson
9. Jean Pascal
10. Artur Beterbiev - I havn't seen him but hear great things

so dawson gets schwinged in 2 by prime adonis and you got dawson over him

like dawson would survive 12 against serguy.....

[fanman]

Before he ruined himself against ward. He outboxed hopkins, johnson & tarver quite easily.
But maybe i will reconsider.
But i still think with his size and skills he would have given rjj hell.

[crusader]

How do you think he'd deal with RJJ's speed? He sure struggled with Pascal's.

[jezzamundo]

As you requested, based on how good they were in their prime, not on resume at the weight:

1. RJJ
2. Kovalev
3. Dawson
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Tarver
7. DM
8. Stevenson
9. Pascal
10. Beterbiev

Beterbiev may well be better, but I can't rate him better than last at the moment because he hasn't yet proved himself against good enough opposition to really judge how good he is. I'm probably being generous with Kovalev in that regard, but he looks to be the goods and I see him stopping a prime Dawson.

[Chepppaaa]

As you requested, based on how good they were in their prime, not on resume at the weight:

1. RJJ
2. Kovalev
3. Dawson
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Tarver
7. DM
8. Stevenson
9. Pascal
10. Beterbiev

Beterbiev may well be better, but I can't rate him better than last at the moment because he hasn't yet proved himself against good enough opposition to really judge how good he is. I'm probably being generous with Kovalev in that regard, but he looks to be the goods and I see him stopping a prime Dawson.

good list.

i think i didnt make me fully understandable, my fault.

what i meant is these 10 boxers at prime at lh, while some boxers like joe or hopkins werent prime at lh, so its hard to argue. regardless, good list, you make sense. although i am very surprised with adonis being so low. dude he more athletic than tarver and much more powerful than dariusz, for me adonis is easily top 4. bertebiev, i can see right away that he is hardcore, pascal, tarver, even hopkins wouldnt stand a ground against this big light heavyweight with cruiserweight power.

[jezzamundo]

As you requested, based on how good they were in their prime, not on resume at the weight:

1. RJJ
2. Kovalev
3. Dawson
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Tarver
7. DM
8. Stevenson
9. Pascal
10. Beterbiev

Beterbiev may well be better, but I can't rate him better than last at the moment because he hasn't yet proved himself against good enough opposition to really judge how good he is. I'm probably being generous with Kovalev in that regard, but he looks to be the goods and I see him stopping a prime Dawson.

good list.

i think i didnt make me fully understandable, my fault.

what i meant is these 10 boxers at prime at lh, while some boxers like joe or hopkins werent prime at lh, so its hard to argue. regardless, good list, you make sense. although i am very surprised with adonis being so low. dude he more athletic than tarver and much more powerful than dariusz, for me adonis is easily top 4. bertebiev, i can see right away that he is hardcore, pascal, tarver, even hopkins wouldnt stand a ground against this big light heavyweight with cruiserweight power.

Actually I did understand and that's how I rated them - based on how good they were at their best at light heavyweight. If lower weight class primes were also included, I would have Hopkins at #2.

I agree that Stevenson is more athletic than Tarver and more powerful than DM, he is naturally gifted, but I don't consider him to be a particularly skilful boxer. I think Kovalev beats him comfortably if they fight. I would pick Stevenson over the current version of Hopkins, but the Hopkins who beat Tarver, I think beats Stevenson widely on points - he's a far superior technical boxer and would make Adonis look bad. You may well be right about Beterbiev - I just don't have the confidence to properly rate him at this stage of his career.

[Tony1244]

Roy Jones Jr
Joel Calzaghe
Bernard Hopkins
Sergey Kovalev
Antonio Tarver
Adonis Stevenson
Dariusz Michalczewski
Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Artur Beterbiev

[Mostel]

912,238,102 - Adonis Stevenson.

He sucks.

[KBB]

by quality, when they were in prime time shape. I go first.

Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Antonio Tarver
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
Dariusz Michalczewski
Artur Beterbiev
Sergey Kovalev
Adonis Stevenson

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1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Adonis Stevenson
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Chad Dawson
6. Antonio Tarver
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Jean Pascal
9. Dariusz Michalczewski
10. Bernard Hopkins

LOL to Michalczewski, Beterbiev, Tarver, Pascal being ahead of Hopkins.

1. Hopkins-(lost to Dawson, Cal and Kov) but beat Jones and Tarver easily and bested the Johnson in their primes
2. Tarver-(lost to Hopkins, Johnson and beat Jones twice) and beat Johnson in the rematch
3. Kovalev (if he beats Stevenson, he automatically goes to #1) beat BHop
4. Jones-lost to BHop, to Tarver twice and Johnson, also never faced Darius
5. Michaelczewski-never faced Jones and a host of others
6. Dawson-(beat BHop, Tarver, never faced Jones) lost to Pascal and was KO'd by Adonis
7. Jean Pascal-KO'd by Kov, had a Draw which should have been an L to BHop and then lost to BHop in a rematch but beat Dawson in his prime (both of them in their primes at the time)
8. Joe Calzaghe-beat an old Jones and Hopkins but never wanted a rematch with Hops outside of this he hasn't done enough where the others did
9. Adonis Stevenson-KO'd Dawson and beat a few others but nothing groundbreaking, he needs a legend on his roster and a big win over Kov in order to move up
10. Artur Beterbiev-too early for him to even be here but give him time, I think he'll move up ahead of Michaelczewski

[Chepppaaa]

As you requested, based on how good they were in their prime, not on resume at the weight:

1. RJJ
2. Kovalev
3. Dawson
4. Calzaghe
5. Hopkins
6. Tarver
7. DM
8. Stevenson
9. Pascal
10. Beterbiev

Beterbiev may well be better, but I can't rate him better than last at the moment because he hasn't yet proved himself against good enough opposition to really judge how good he is. I'm probably being generous with Kovalev in that regard, but he looks to be the goods and I see him stopping a prime Dawson.

good list.

i think i didnt make me fully understandable, my fault.

what i meant is these 10 boxers at prime at lh, while some boxers like joe or hopkins werent prime at lh, so its hard to argue. regardless, good list, you make sense. although i am very surprised with adonis being so low. dude he more athletic than tarver and much more powerful than dariusz, for me adonis is easily top 4. bertebiev, i can see right away that he is hardcore, pascal, tarver, even hopkins wouldnt stand a ground against this big light heavyweight with cruiserweight power.

Actually I did understand and that's how I rated them - based on how good they were at their best at light heavyweight. If lower weight class primes were also included, I would have Hopkins at #2.

I agree that Stevenson is more athletic than Tarver and more powerful than DM, he is naturally gifted, but I don't consider him to be a particularly skilful boxer. I think Kovalev beats him comfortably if they fight. I would pick Stevenson over the current version of Hopkins, but the Hopkins who beat Tarver, I think beats Stevenson widely on points - he's a far superior technical boxer and would make Adonis look bad. You may well be right about Beterbiev - I just don't have the confidence to properly rate him at this stage of his career.

yeah, i have to aggree, you make sense.

it is just hard for me to put prime adonis down, because his power is just rare and i just overall like the way he moves in the ring, not the most technical, but he is still slick, i doubt hopkins, even the one that beat tarver would have anything against this big bulked power puncher. i mean dawson just showed, pressure and power gives hopkins a hell of problems. adonis ones he got you puts an awful lot of pressure on you and has the power to realy make it difficult for you to get out. but it would be a super intreresting fight.

[Chepppaaa]

by quality, when they were in prime time shape. I go first.

Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Antonio Tarver
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
Dariusz Michalczewski
Artur Beterbiev
Sergey Kovalev
Adonis Stevenson

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1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Adonis Stevenson
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Chad Dawson
6. Antonio Tarver
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Jean Pascal
9. Dariusz Michalczewski
10. Bernard Hopkins

LOL to Michalczewski, Beterbiev, Tarver, Pascal being ahead of Hopkins.

1. Hopkins-(lost to Dawson, Cal and Kov) but beat Jones and Tarver easily and bested the Johnson in their primes
2. Tarver-(lost to Hopkins, Johnson and beat Jones twice) and beat Johnson in the rematch
3. Kovalev (if he beats Stevenson, he automatically goes to #1) beat BHop
4. Jones-lost to BHop, to Tarver twice and Johnson, also never faced Darius
5. Michaelczewski-never faced Jones and a host of others
6. Dawson-(beat BHop, Tarver, never faced Jones) lost to Pascal and was KO'd by Adonis
7. Jean Pascal-KO'd by Kov, had a Draw which should have been an L to BHop and then lost to BHop in a rematch but beat Dawson in his prime (both of them in their primes at the time)
8. Joe Calzaghe-beat an old Jones and Hopkins but never wanted a rematch with Hops outside of this he hasn't done enough where the others did
9. Adonis Stevenson-KO'd Dawson and beat a few others but nothing groundbreaking, he needs a legend on his roster and a big win over Kov in order to move up
10. Artur Beterbiev-too early for him to even be here but give him time, I think he'll move up ahead of Michaelczewski

oh god, you so dumb on so many levels.

first, you didnt even read what i asked and that was to rank the prime boxers at the light heavyweight limit based on ability and not based on records.

you than you list the boxers and basicly rank them based on accomplishmant (the record) and judge by this.

and than even if you would only rank based on record, you still got it completly wrong. i mean having hopkins as 1, just shows it all. how can hopkins who just had no chance against kovalev, dawson, lost to pascal, lost to calzaghe, how can he be 1? cause he beat on grandpa old jones or a past prime tarver? hopkins had 1 great win vs tarver, but is simply not a elite light heavyweight. he cant compete with strong big light heavys who pressure him, thats it. i mean, would you have listed him around 5-10, well, than why not, somebody can make a case, but 1, completly stupid.

i mean, sorry but you a total retard when it comes down to boxing.

[KBB]

by quality, when they were in prime time shape. I go first.

Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal
Antonio Tarver
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Joe Calzaghe
Dariusz Michalczewski
Artur Beterbiev
Sergey Kovalev
Adonis Stevenson

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1. Roy Jones Jr
2. Adonis Stevenson
3. Sergey Kovalev
4. Artur Beterbiev
5. Chad Dawson
6. Antonio Tarver
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Jean Pascal
9. Dariusz Michalczewski
10. Bernard Hopkins

LOL to Michalczewski, Beterbiev, Tarver, Pascal being ahead of Hopkins.

1. Hopkins-(lost to Dawson, Cal and Kov) but beat Jones and Tarver easily and bested the Johnson in their primes
2. Tarver-(lost to Hopkins, Johnson and beat Jones twice) and beat Johnson in the rematch
3. Kovalev (if he beats Stevenson, he automatically goes to #1) beat BHop
4. Jones-lost to BHop, to Tarver twice and Johnson, also never faced Darius
5. Michaelczewski-never faced Jones and a host of others
6. Dawson-(beat BHop, Tarver, never faced Jones) lost to Pascal and was KO'd by Adonis
7. Jean Pascal-KO'd by Kov, had a Draw which should have been an L to BHop and then lost to BHop in a rematch but beat Dawson in his prime (both of them in their primes at the time)
8. Joe Calzaghe-beat an old Jones and Hopkins but never wanted a rematch with Hops outside of this he hasn't done enough where the others did
9. Adonis Stevenson-KO'd Dawson and beat a few others but nothing groundbreaking, he needs a legend on his roster and a big win over Kov in order to move up
10. Artur Beterbiev-too early for him to even be here but give him time, I think he'll move up ahead of Michaelczewski

oh god, you so dumb on so many levels.

first, you didnt even read what i asked and that was to rank the prime boxers at the light heavyweight limit based on ability and not based on records.

you than you list the boxers and basicly rank them based on accomplishmant (the record) and judge by this.

and than even if you would only rank based on record, you still got it completly wrong. i mean having hopkins as 1, just shows it all. how can hopkins who just had no chance against kovalev, dawson, lost to pascal, lost to calzaghe, how can he be 1? cause he beat on grandpa old jones or a past prime tarver? hopkins had 1 great win vs tarver, but is simply not a elite light heavyweight. he cant compete with strong big light heavys who pressure him, thats it. i mean, would you have listed him around 5-10, well, than why not, somebody can make a case, but 1, completly stupid.

i mean, sorry but you a total retard when it comes down to boxing.

Your title said Rank them, I usually don't read your posts because they are as stupid as you are. I ranked them based on record and Hopkins' record bests them by far, I'm not dumb, I just didn't read your usual foolery.

[Chepppaaa]

you a total retard brut. so you read the names i wrote down and dont even read 1 sentence that i wrote above.

and than you say, "Your title said Rank them"

my title said "Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

so, in your mind hopkins accomplished more at light heavyweight than jones did.

just stop you are a retard in so many ways. with your black and white nonsense, your view on boxing quality. just on everything. what is wrong with you.

[KBB]

you a total retard brut. so you read the names i wrote down and dont even read 1 sentence that i wrote above.

and than you say, "Your title said Rank them"

my title said "Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

so, in your mind hopkins accomplished more at light heavyweight than jones did.

just stop you are a retard in so many ways. with your black and white nonsense, your view on boxing quality. just on everything. what is wrong with you.

I ranked them based on their entire careers not only for what they did or didn't do at LHW. Too bad you're too stupid to realize that, like I said, I usually don't bother reading your garbage because you're about an nth of a step higher in intellect than Bnovelist.

Have a nice night idiot.

[Chepppaaa]

you a total retard brut. so you read the names i wrote down and dont even read 1 sentence that i wrote above.

and than you say, "Your title said Rank them"

my title said "Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

so, in your mind hopkins accomplished more at light heavyweight than jones did.

just stop you are a retard in so many ways. with your black and white nonsense, your view on boxing quality. just on everything. what is wrong with you.

I ranked them based on their entire careers not only for what they did or didn't do at LHW. Too bad you're too stupid to realize that, like I said, I usually don't bother reading your garbage because you're about an nth of a step higher in intellect than Bnovelist.

Have a nice night idiot.

i perfectly realized how you ranked.

but you an idiot, because you can even fully read and understand 1 simple sentence.

"Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

not "Rank those Boxer's based on their overall career record"

[KBB]

i perfectly realized how you ranked.

but you an idiot, because you can even fully read and understand 1 simple sentence.

"Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

not "Rank those Boxer's based on their overall career record"

Honestly when I read it was a post by you I half heartedly even wanted to reply to it because 99.9% of the stuff you write is garbage. Have a nice night idiot.

[macaca]

Strictly professional I presume since Andre Ward is not in the mix?

[Chepppaaa]

i perfectly realized how you ranked.

but you an idiot, because you can even fully read and understand 1 simple sentence.

"Rank those Boxer's @ light heavyweight"

not "Rank those Boxer's based on their overall career record"

Honestly when I read it was a post by you I half heartedly even wanted to reply to it because 99.9% of the stuff you write is garbage. Have a nice night idiot.

yeah, than next time get fu&(k out of here or read the sh&/(t

[macaca]

lick a dick kbb