Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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koolkc107 wrote:
SFW wrote:Lol oh hell no there are still people drinkin the kool-aid on Berto? Gots to say the nay no on Berto
Hey, I thought he was toast too, but after what he did to Lopez (who I respect highly) I rethought my position on Andre.
I've followed Lopez a long time. He looked bad. Bloated, and diminished. And he was out boxing Berto most of that fight. That's bad. And disaster when he faces a top guy.
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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I agree that this is a better fight for Porter than it is for Thurman. I feel Thurman's proved himself ready for a big payday. He doesn't have anything else to prove before getting a PPV like type fight. How come no one is clamoring for a Khan/Thurman fight or what about all the people that blow Brook on this site like he's Joe Freaking Louis. What about Brook/Thurman? Thurman will knock Brook into the sixth row. Thurman needs to start getting some props for what he's doing in the ring. He's clearly in the top 5 of the best division in boxing.
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The reason people ain't calling for Khan v Thurman is they already know Khan and his advisors wouldn't go anywhere near Thurman. Just like they don't want anything to do with Kell Brook. Why else would Khan turn down a mega fight for the IBF title at Wembley stadium in front of 80,000 fans and massive ppv sales. Risk to reward. Khan knows another defeat would potentially be the end of any big money fights against Pac/May etc

Now there's a fight i really like Brook v Thurman that would be a really great fight and a very interesting match up. They are both very decent boxers who possess good power, hand speed and accuracy. Not sure who i'd favour but I'd pay good money to watch it. :TU:
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I don't think this fight happens to be honest. I think Porter will be fighting Bradley for a title eliminator and Thurman will end up fighting Madaina.
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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Would've liked the fight, BEFORE Porter lost to Brook. Now, not so much...

Thurman vs Maidana & Porter vs Berto instead.
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NateJR wrote:I don't think this fight happens to be honest. I think Porter will be fighting Bradley for a title eliminator and Thurman will end up fighting Madaina.
That would be even better.
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Porter is clearly a more dangerous fight for Thurman than Guerrero. Guerrero let Thurman fight at the pace he wanted to fight at, and had a clear handspeed disadvantage. Porter will not let him fight at that pace.

Tough fighter to for a finesse/potshot guy like Thurman. I could easily see Porter pulling the upset if he improves his defense a little.
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="dempseyfire"]Porter is clearly a more dangerous fight for Thurman than Guerrero. Guerrero let Thurman fight at the pace he wanted to fight at, and had a clear handspeed disadvantage. Porter will not let him fight at that pace.

Tough fighter to for a finesse/potshot guy like Thurman. I could easily see Porter pulling the upset if he improves his defense a little.[/
Yeah, that's the case and the question (did he actually improve his defense)?

I fear that Porter may be tailor made for Thurman if he goes rushing in the way he did vs Brook and run right into something that makes Keith look spectacular if he puts him to sleep with it.
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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Brook is fighting rios in the summer when he blasts out Frankie Gaving who is no where near these guys levels

I think Thurman vs Porter is a great fight and i would look forward to watching it if it happens
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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koolkc107 wrote:More of a good thing for Porter than Thurman.

Porter wins and he is "back". Thurman wins and it is more or less expected.

That said, Keith by KO is what I'd guess.

you right.

but basicly it is a good fight for both of them, a win for both means, you beat a good opponent. i mean, sure i would prefer seeing thurman against either the winner of pac/may or brook, because i have high expectation of thurman, he think he is a level boxer. but porter is no joke, dude is tough and it would end in a thurman-guerrero type of fight, just good entertainmant, so i am all for it. thurman will move and deliver his combos, porter will try to engage cause he got the warrior spirit, but quiet fast find out that the power infront of him is to much to handle and probably get tkod around 8
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caldo2025 wrote:I agree that this is a better fight for Porter than it is for Thurman. I feel Thurman's proved himself ready for a big payday. He doesn't have anything else to prove before getting a PPV like type fight. How come no one is clamoring for a Khan/Thurman fight or what about all the people that blow Brook on this site like he's Joe Freaking Louis. What about Brook/Thurman? Thurman will knock Brook into the sixth row. Thurman needs to start getting some props for what he's doing in the ring. He's clearly in the top 5 of the best division in boxing.
On what evidence? Would be a 50/50 fight.
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danamba7 wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I agree that this is a better fight for Porter than it is for Thurman. I feel Thurman's proved himself ready for a big payday. He doesn't have anything else to prove before getting a PPV like type fight. How come no one is clamoring for a Khan/Thurman fight or what about all the people that blow Brook on this site like he's Joe Freaking Louis. What about Brook/Thurman? Thurman will knock Brook into the sixth row. Thurman needs to start getting some props for what he's doing in the ring. He's clearly in the top 5 of the best division in boxing.
On what evidence? Would be a 50/50 fight.

I'm not one of these Brook lovers because he barely and controversially beats Porter. Thurman is no one trick pony like Porter. He can box and he's got power in both hands. Porter has one tool and thats his bullrush approach. Once Brook figured out how to combat that, Porter had no other tools to turn to. Thurman will beat Brook handedly and will knock him out. Just my opinion but i know you people love Brook for some odd reason.
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caldo2025 wrote:I'm not one of these Brook lovers because he barely and controversially beats Porter.
It wasn't controversial.
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Horse wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I'm not one of these Brook lovers because he barely and controversially beats Porter.
It wasn't controversial.
Far from it, Porter barely landed anything of note on Brook.

And Caldo, why is it odd that "us people" love an undefeated British world champ with good power and good skills who travelled to the US to win his belt? Seems to be the exact recipe for a boxer that we should love.
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that is one fight that would be a phenomenal fight

not to upset the masses but if goes ahead i would look forward to this more than the Mw v pac ...
2 fighters in there prime evenly matched

just in case i do upset and get a backlash for saying it would be a better fight and before you troll chuck says so

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Thurman too good for Porter and for Brook.. I rate Thurman very highly.
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Ian1973 wrote:Thurman too good for Porter and for Brook.. I rate Thurman very highly.


mate hes very good but for now the jury still out until he has more names on his record but a very exciting future
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ajwesty13 wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:Thurman too good for Porter and for Brook.. I rate Thurman very highly.


mate hes very good but for now the jury still out until he has more names on his record but a very exciting future
says the non expert who is not able to see greatness right away
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danamba7 wrote:
Horse wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:I'm not one of these Brook lovers because he barely and controversially beats Porter.
It wasn't controversial.
Far from it, Porter barely landed anything of note on Brook.

And Caldo, why is it odd that "us people" love an undefeated British world champ with good power and good skills who travelled to the US to win his belt? Seems to be the exact recipe for a boxer that we should love.
I'll be honest, I was rooting for Brook in the Porter fight and was happy that he won but I don't think Brook did enough to win the title that night. To me, you've got beat the champion but like i said, the result was what I was hoping for. The fight was absolute rubbish though. I blame Porter for that fact but still was an awful fight to watch.

So Brook wins one fight and he things that he can dictate terms all over the place? The Brit's finally have another person to sing those ridiculous songs to in the ring. It's been a long time since the world finally saw what an overrated bloke Ricky Hatton was. Brook hasn't fought anyone worth a damn other than Porter so he's in no position to demand Khan to do anything or dictate terms. The one thing that bothered me the most was how Brook chased Khan down in the press for weeks for a fight that he knew Khan couldn't participate in because of his religious holiday. It was public and common knowledge but it was just a pathetic attempt to make himself look good and brave all the while knowing there was no chance the fight could happen. He's just another bust like most of these Brittish Fighters that the goofs eat fish and chips and sing over. No thanks.
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So Brook wins one fight and he things that he can dictate terms all over the place? The Brit's finally have another person to sing those ridiculous songs to in the ring. It's been a long time since the world finally saw what an overrated bloke Ricky Hatton was. Brook hasn't fought anyone worth a damn other than Porter so he's in no position to demand Khan to do anything or dictate terms. The one thing that bothered me the most was how Brook chased Khan down in the press for weeks for a fight that he knew Khan couldn't participate in because of his religious holiday. It was public and common knowledge but it was just a pathetic attempt to make himself look good and brave all the while knowing there was no chance the fight could happen. He's just another bust like most of these Brittish Fighters that the goofs eat fish and chips and sing over. No thanks.[/quote]
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wt heck are u talkin about, he totaly outboxed porter, technicly overwhelmed him, he easily won 8-9, simple ud over a good boxer.

also, dont talk crap about brook wants to dictate anything, he just wants khan, because it makes sense that 2 famous uk boxers have to meet each other.
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lol brook schooled porter. It wasn't even close. Porter didn't think so himself.
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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Chepppaaa wrote:
says the non expert who is not able to see greatness right away

I think Thurnan is quality and have stated that many times in this forum... but before I think you get to elite you need a few names on that record...
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ajwesty13 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
says the non expert who is not able to see greatness right away

I think Thurnan is quality and have stated that many times in this forum... but before I think you get to elite you need a few names on that record...

thurman will never be elite, he is too robotic for that, but he will and is already a b+ boxer, regardless of who he will fight.
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Chepppaaa wrote:
ajwesty13 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
says the non expert who is not able to see greatness right away

I think Thurnan is quality and have stated that many times in this forum... but before I think you get to elite you need a few names on that record...

thurman will never be elite, he is too robotic for that, but he will and is already a b+ boxer, regardless of who he will fight.
Sorry fella it sounded like you were calling thurman great now he's a b+ boxer I'm confused
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Re: Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter

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Would be great if it was to happen. Interesting to see how Thurman deals with Porters awkward, even dirty fighting style. On top of that Porter is physically strong. I would give Thurman only a slight edge. I think there is a chance of this fight happening, because they are both struggling to get decent opponents.
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