State Of Aussie Boxing?

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As a Brit, I have a lot of respect for Aussie sport but I don't know too much about your boxing scene outside of the obvious Browne, Solimon, Geale, Katsidis etc. So what is current state of Aussie boxing? And how do you think Sherrington will fair against Eubank Jr?
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pretty bog standard if I'm honest considering the money they pump into all the other sports it seems a shame not to have better boxers around representing Australia, oh well "surfs up" :TU:
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IMO, over recent years some promoters have focused onto corporate table sales more so than average sit and stand punters. In doing so, they loaded the show with absolute crap title bouts, which is nothing short of suck-in for corporate table buyers, who know sweet fark all about boxing
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danamba7 wrote:As a Brit, I have a lot of respect for Aussie sport but I don't know too much about your boxing scene outside of the obvious Browne, Solimon, Geale, Katsidis etc. So what is current state of Aussie boxing? And how do you think Sherrington will fair against Eubank Jr?
Boxing in Australia is in a poor state at the moment. And it will only get poorer. As most of our fighters only look to keep their "0" by padding their records and not fight the best in their own back yard first. Mundine, Geale, Sherrington, Soliman etc haven't got long left. And we only have Horn and a rejuventated Zapavigna coming through that are real chances of winning real world titles. Browne is overrated and Sherrington is simply a very good domestic fighter. Eubank Jnr will stop him IMO.
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Do you know if you fight in the amatuers in this country their is 2 orginisations [3 if you count GLOBAL amateur boxing in Queensland]
that you can fight for, One is the Australian Amatuer Boxing Assosiation [ABA] or the Australian Amatuer Boxing League [ABL] if you fight on a League promoted Amatuer fight night in Wagga[OR SURROUNDING AREA'S] where there has not been a ABA fight night put on for 9 year's you are essensially blocking yourself from representing N.S.W/ AUSTRALIA in any state/international competition because if you don't fight with the ABA
you will be excluded from the pool of Amatuer Boxer's picked to represent your state/country :witzend: IT MUST BE WORKING LOOK AT ALL THOSE OLYMPIC MEDAL'S :lol: [last time we won one in boxing mobile phone's weren't around not in my house anyways] :lol: 1988.
EGO'S ARE LIKE ASS-HOLE'S EVERY-ONE'S GOT ONE......... :DD my mother told me about those mission manager's....... :shame:
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AntonS wrote:IMO, over recent years some promoters have focused onto corporate table sales more so than average sit and stand punters. In doing so, they loaded the show with absolute crap title bouts, which is nothing short of suck-in for corporate table buyers, who know sweet fark all about boxing
It's important to look after those corporate guys. :TU:
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Francis75 wrote:
AntonS wrote:IMO, over recent years some promoters have focused onto corporate table sales more so than average sit and stand punters. In doing so, they loaded the show with absolute crap title bouts, which is nothing short of suck-in for corporate table buyers, who know sweet fark all about boxing
It's important to look after those corporate guys. :TU:
:lol:
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At the risk of someone jumping down my throat telling me to let it go and move on, I'll say Australian boxing has seen far better days.
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Well a guy who I thought was a bright prospect just got KO'd by Jack Asis. :doh:
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Like a Boss wrote:At the risk of someone jumping down my throat telling me to let it go and move on, I'll say Australian boxing has seen far better days.
It's always been completely dead. It's a fledgling fringe niche sport.
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Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
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good to see the negativity for oz boxing yet again, it never goes away.

considering the lack of participants, we punch well above our weight.
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buster007 wrote:good to see the negativity for oz boxing yet again, it never goes away.

considering the lack of participants, we punch well above our weight.
To be fair though, lack of participants is a problem in itself. Not enough kids inspired to get into boxing. Could only take one pro star or one Olympic gold medalist to kick it off though.
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danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
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Like a Boss wrote:
danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
Also just out of interest, how do the Aussies view British boxing? I know we have a heated rivalry in Rugby and Cricket but do you view our scene with respect or do you think it's average, overrated etc?
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danamba7 wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
Also just out of interest, how do the Aussies view British boxing? I know we have a heated rivalry in Rugby and Cricket but do you view our scene with respect or do you think it's average, overrated etc?
Well it won't shock you to hear me say English boxing is in far better shape than Aussie boxing.
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Like a Boss wrote:
danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
Darchinyan is Armenian and Tszyu is Russian.
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Yup, but both started their pro career in Oz & are naturalized Aussies. I guess you consider me Slovene 'cos I was born there
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Francis75 wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
Darchinyan is Armenian and Tszyu is Russian.
Can't see him saying anywhere that they were Australian born. Just that our country had been blessed with them. :TU:
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[quote="Francis75"][quote="Like a Boss"][quote="danamba7"]Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.[/quote]

[b][u]Australian boxing[/u][/b] has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, [u][b]Tszyu & Darchinyan[/b][/u] and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.[/quote]

Darchinyan is Armenian and Tszyu is Russian.[/quote]

u r wrong.
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Francis75 wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
danamba7 wrote:Interesting replies. I find it quite surprising that Aussie boxing is apparently poor. You're not only strong in sports, but also strong in tough sports (Both forms of Rugby and Aussie rules). With certain countries, it makes sense why their boxing scene isn't great e.g. France (no offence anyone :lol:) but I would expect Australia to have a strong scene.
Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions along the way. Fenech, Rose, Famechon, Carothers, Mattioli, Ellis, Harding, Peden, Tszyu & Darchinyan and Geale, just to name a few.

It is certainly going through lean times at the moment. But that can change fairly quickly of course. A win by Geale over Cotto is the sort of shot in the arm it needs right now and the progression of Lucas Browne also.
Darchinyan is Armenian and Tszyu is Russian.
You went to the trouble of underlining my words but didn't bother to read them :lol:

"Australian boxing has been blessed with some great champions"

I never said they were all Australian born.
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:witzend: :witzend: :witzend: :witzend: no brains to fix the problem starts right at the bottom....AMATUER BOXING..........
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AntonS wrote:Yup, but both started their pro career in Oz & are naturalized Aussies. I guess you consider me Slovene 'cos I was born there
Technically yes, but maybe you have assimilated to the Aussie way meaning you are now Austrlian?????

Unfortunately KT has gone back to Russia, he considers himself Russian, I have no problem with this by the way but the Aussies that keep spruiking him as such are wrong...... No Biggee
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lol

whatever!
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AntonS wrote:Yup, but both started their pro career in Oz & are naturalized Aussies. I guess you consider me Slovene 'cos I was born there
If you are born in, lets say Russia, to Russian parents, go to school in Russia, live there ALL of your younger years and then move to, lets say Australia, for career reasons at 20 yrs of age or so, THEN you are Russian.
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