Badhusker wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:So Timmy is crap? That doesn't say much for Pac's last 3 opponents does it. You base wins over those guys and a KO loss as #1 pfp?
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rigo is my #1 p4p, not pac, learm how to read correctly
timmy is crap, so where the rest of pacs last opponents, but ability is more important than record. if you always go by record, judging who's boxer is better than the other, than you dumbhead had donaire winning against rigo or hopkins winning over kovalev. but thats not how boxing work, boxing is a sport of present and when a boxer is better than somebody in present time, than what happened on a record in the past does not matter much.
My bad, you had Pac #2, ok. Like it or not, the competition you recently face is a huge factor. If it was not, Ward would be up there, and GGG probably a lot higher on lists. Wlad would be higher if he had better competition, Rigo, Thurman might be higher if he gets some big wins. If Kovalev beat Stevenson or Ward he would be higher, etc. As the saying goes, what have you accomplished lately? Fighters get taken off the list due to inactivity, and drop because of poor opposition. You don't maintain or raise your pfp status fighting guys like Rios and Algieri....or according to you - B crap level Tim Bradley. According to some Floyd should be moved down because of Maidana, but I think he would beat anyone of Pac's three opponents. Two of them badly, and one in a close but clear decision. My opinion.
Personally I don't put much stock in pfp lists because it is just an opinion, and definitely much more subjective than objective. Kind of like comparing fighters from different eras.
My list?
1. Mayweather
2. Ward
3. GGG
4. Rigo
5. Gonzalez
6. Pacquiao
7. Thurman
8. Kovalev
9. Wlad
10. Crawford
Now, put the names in a can, shake them up, spill them out, and make your argument. Opinions are never wrong. Some are accomplished, some have yet to prove they are.[/quote]
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sure are oppinions wrong, very often they are totaly wrong.
it is very simple to rate boxers for me. if they fought each other and one beat the other, than it is easy to rate the winner above the loser.
but if they did not fight each other or cant because they are in different divisions, than i fantasys who would win and i go of who has the better skill set, who is faster, who is more powerful, who has the advantage athleticy etc.. and than decide. so, p4p lists are never 100 % accurate, but they are very good and very badp4p lists. the baddest p4p lists are when they put robberys as an actual win. imagine canelo geting a scorecard in favour of him, i mean for me floyd won like 11 out of 12 rounds, but the official result was MD, so the fight was official close to being a win of canelo, when in reality canelo did nothing to earn the win and so many stupid people or media website than would have put canelo inside the top 3 because a robbery win of floyd and you want to tell me oppinions are never wrong hahahahaha.....
, thats why i dont go by officiel judging but by what i see and me as an expert i say, it was a draw.
