Cotto vs geale

MidniteProwler · Post by **MidniteProwler** » 21 Apr 2015, 22:21

Like a Boss wrote:
Kelandbeave wrote:
Like a Boss wrote: There were similar thoughts expressed by some when Geale journeyed to Germany, twice, and both times returned with titles.
And similar to his fight with GGG D

Mentioning or implying Cotto and Sylvester are similar situations is embarrassing
Geale twice travelled to Germany. Beating reigning champions Sylvester & Sturm in "their own backyard" and where "people didn't think Geale would the get the benefit of the doubt" and Geale returned with both their titles.

That you don't seem to value those two performances by Geale is embarrassing.

He needed the benefit of the doubt because they were both close fights, I had Sturm beating him 115-113.

Kelandbeave · Post by **Kelandbeave** » 21 Apr 2015, 23:38

Yeah there was a real backlash in Germany about previous robberies last 20yrs against American and English fighters that the judges seemed to be uneasy about giving Sturm the decision against Geale.... That fight was close and i also had Sturm nicking it but the judges thought they better finally throw the Western world a bone. Sylvester was and is a B level fighter so that win doesn't count. Imagine what a prime Mundine wouldvé done to Sylvester?

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 21 Apr 2015, 23:46

Geale's wins in Germany over Sylvester & Sturm were great achievements and netted him the IBF & WBA titles respectively.

Those wins also proved he has the capacity to travel and win title fights in other fighter's "own backyards."

He fell short against GGG, but so has everybody else.

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 22 Apr 2015, 00:30

Kelandbeave wrote: Sort that quote button out and i'll think about responding to your BABS

what is a BABS?

I don't care if u respond to me or not.

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 22 Apr 2015, 00:32

Kelandbeave wrote: Yeah there was a real backlash in Germany about previous robberies last 20yrs against American and English fighters that the judges seemed to be uneasy about giving Sturm the decision against Geale.... That fight was close and i also had Sturm nicking it but the judges thought they better finally throw the Western world a bone. Sylvester was and is a B level fighter so that win doesn't count. Imagine what a prime Mundine wouldvé done to Sylvester

what nonsense.

MidniteProwler · Post by **MidniteProwler** » 22 Apr 2015, 00:48

Kelandbeave wrote:Yeah there was a real backlash in Germany about previous robberies last 20yrs against American and English fighters that the judges seemed to be uneasy about giving Sturm the decision against Geale.... That fight was close and i also had Sturm nicking it but the judges thought they better finally throw the Western world a bone. Sylvester was and is a B level fighter so that win doesn't count. Imagine what a prime Mundine wouldvé done to Sylvester?

Agreed, Sylvester went on to get KO'd by Proska in his next fight.

amwsnw · Post by **amwsnw** » 22 Apr 2015, 06:09

What a load of crap. To go to Germany and get the decision against any of their world champs is an outstanding effort. Daniel did it twice. Sturm is a quality fighter and Daniel did enough to win that fight. Sylvester was a decent enough fighter to hold one of the better versions of the world title and Daniel beat him. Some people just find it difficult to commend people on excellent efforts. Are the same people going to call Cotto a shot fighter should Daniel beat him - probably.

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 23 Apr 2015, 01:20

MidniteProwler wrote:
Kelandbeave wrote:Yeah there was a real backlash in Germany about previous robberies last 20yrs against American and English fighters that the judges seemed to be uneasy about giving Sturm the decision against Geale.... That fight was close and i also had Sturm nicking it but the judges thought they better finally throw the Western world a bone. Sylvester was and is a B level fighter so that win doesn't count. Imagine what a prime Mundine wouldvé done to Sylvester?
Agreed, Sylvester went on to get KO'd by Proska in his next fight.

Proksa was 25-0 at the time and went on to fight GGG a year later.

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 23 Apr 2015, 01:21

amwsnw wrote:What a load of crap. To go to Germany and get the decision against any of their world champs is an outstanding effort. Daniel did it twice. Sturm is a quality fighter and Daniel did enough to win that fight. Sylvester was a decent enough fighter to hold one of the better versions of the world title and Daniel beat him. Some people just find it difficult to commend people on excellent efforts. Are the same people going to call Cotto a shot fighter should Daniel beat him - probably.

You got it sussed

Francis75 · Post by **Francis75** » 23 Apr 2015, 04:25

amwsnw wrote:What a load of crap. To go to Germany and get the decision against any of their world champs is an outstanding effort. Daniel did it twice. Sturm is a quality fighter and Daniel did enough to win that fight. Sylvester was a decent enough fighter to hold one of the better versions of the world title and Daniel beat him. Some people just find it difficult to commend people on excellent efforts. Are the same people going to call Cotto a shot fighter should Daniel beat him - probably.

Most think Geale just got Sturm at the right time. Sturm was done.

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 23 Apr 2015, 04:32

these people r called haters.

the internet is full of them unfortunately.

Francis75 · Post by **Francis75** » 23 Apr 2015, 06:38

buster007 wrote:these people r called haters.

the internet is full of them unfortunately.

So you think Sturm was at the peak of his powers ?

Sturm then lost to Soliman which should spell it out to you that he was done. He lost to SOLIMAN.

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 23 Apr 2015, 07:08

when someone focus' purely on only the 'negative' of a fighter non-stop, they r simply haters.

problem is they r the only ones who refuse to acknowledge it.

Kelandbeave · Post by **Kelandbeave** » 23 Apr 2015, 17:59

Francis75 wrote:
buster007 wrote:these people r called haters.

the internet is full of them unfortunately.
So you think Sturm was at the peak of his powers ?

Sturm then lost to Soliman which should spell it out to you that he was done. He lost to SOLIMAN.

Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing

MidniteProwler · Post by **MidniteProwler** » 23 Apr 2015, 18:53

Francis75 wrote:
buster007 wrote:these people r called haters.

the internet is full of them unfortunately.
So you think Sturm was at the peak of his powers ?

Sturm then lost to Soliman which should spell it out to you that he was done. He lost to SOLIMAN.

Sturm was never any good anyway, his claim to fame was losing to a fat out of shape blown up Welterweight Delahoya.

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 23 Apr 2015, 18:59

Kelandbeave wrote:
Francis75 wrote:
So you think Sturm was at the peak of his powers ?

Sturm then lost to Soliman which should spell it out to you that he was done. He lost to SOLIMAN.
Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing

Soliman has 44 wins too. When he fought Sturm the first time Soliman hadn't been beaten in 5 years. When he fought Sturm the second time Soliman hadn't been beaten in 6 years. Just the other half of the story for some balance

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 23 Apr 2015, 19:18

Word "hate/haters" is the most common word used in forums & schoolyards. This joint can live without it. Thanks

Kelandbeave · Post by **Kelandbeave** » 23 Apr 2015, 19:27

"Opinions" would be a more appropriate word.

All forums need them for a balanced view

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 23 Apr 2015, 19:43

Daniel Geale sure looks like fairly good value at $4.00.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 23 Apr 2015, 19:48

Like a Boss wrote:Daniel Geale sure looks like fairly good value at $4.00.

I'm taking a quinella

buster007 · Post by **buster007** » 24 Apr 2015, 03:21

opinions or hate?

what do u call it when someone states constantly only negative things about a boxer in every thread, but never one positive thing about them, even after beating the odds time and again?

cotto is supposedly cherry picking and the fight is a stay busy fight and cooto is in a different league to daniel, but geale should be able to win cause cotto is only a welter weight and should not be fighting at this weight, lol.

AntonS · Post by **AntonS** » 24 Apr 2015, 03:52

Ignore their post & just post your opinion. In other words stop whinging 'cos it's giving me the shites

Francis75 · Post by **Francis75** » 24 Apr 2015, 05:20

Kelandbeave wrote:

Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing

REALLY ? That many Kel.

Like a Boss · Post by **Like a Boss** » 24 Apr 2015, 20:15

Daniel Geale's comments from a recent interview with Fairsy & Jules on Launceston Radio :

"Very confident going into the fight. We understand it's going to be a tough fight against a guy that's going to be a future Hall of Famer. He's fought the best and I'll need to stick to my game plan".

"I'll have the whole crowd against me. He's been in big fights. Hard fights, and taken a lot of punishment, and he's there for the taking."

"I've put in all the hard training and I'm ready".

http://lafm.com.au/fairsy-and-jules/int ... ale-240415

Hounddawg · Post by **Hounddawg** » 29 Apr 2015, 09:19

Francis75 wrote:
Kelandbeave wrote:

Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing
REALLY ? That many Kel.

Out of the 2 of you, who sucks who's D"#k?

Never seen 2 guys follow each other around, back slapping each other, after always creating an angry mob.

Same person perhaps, on different IP address's, or just really, "really" enjoy each others company?

Soliman has 7 loss's less then Sugar Ray.....No, please don't retort with that they're not in the same league, it's obvious the win/loss/draw section of a fighters profile influences your decision on who can and can't fight.

Are we in another forum, is this Boxrec or ESB?

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