Andre Ward vs. Paul Smith

ikorolev
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Paul Smith

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digzee wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Did you know that they are fighting at 172 ?
Are you sure? As a previous poster said Smith is a small SMW.
I saw Ward saying it in an interview:

http://www.BS.com/video-andre- ... ore--90197?

Plus this:

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2015&m=04
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Re: Andre Ward vs. Paul Smith

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sucracristo wrote:
digzee wrote: I don't know if your being serious when you say a "major world title" because those fights should have been for the Euro title at best, don't dress it up as something it isn't.
like 20 of abraham's last 30 fights have been for major titles, you mental case.
they're recognized by the hall of fame as world title fights.
he's ranked 2 by the ring and this site and if you have him outside the top
10 in the world you escaped your straight jacket and made it online to type lunacy.
like it or not, there are 4 major titles, meaning if you are in the top 10 there is a
40% chance you have one of them, and for a voluntary defense you probably
aren't going to defend against one of the legit top 10 guys. also, the ebu title
DOES earn you a top 10 world ranking by the wbc, so if paul smith is euro title
worthy then that by definition makes him a legit voluntary defense.

i already said this is a bad matchup and i never said smith should get handed anything.
he just needs to beat a ranked middle to get the shot i mentioned and take a look
at the ibf and wbo's top 15. this site and ibo still have him top 30 and if he was in with
anthony dirrell last night he would have a title. he's a legit top 15 guy at 168 and i'd say
better at 160
Read your post as you did say he should fight for a middleweight title "paul smith should
go down to middle and fight andy lee for the wbo or whoever has the ibf"

I don't think anybody rates Abraham as world class at SMW despite having a belt, fringe world class I would say, I don't know why your bringing up his middleweight reign, he's lost handily to every world level guy he's fought at 168, so what does his middleweight reign got to do with this? Just because there are too many belts and he's in a weak division doesn't make him world class.

I'm the mental case? Your the one who says guys who have less then 10 fights but have potential are already world class.

Paul Smith would not beat Anthony Dirrell, I don't think he would beat Rebrasse.
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Abraham haven't fought elite opponents since 2011. The only decent opponent he fought since then was Stieglitz, but Robert is not an A level, and Arthur managed to get stopped by him and have two close wins.
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