Updating the BOXREC Forum heavyweight rankings CLOSED

[jezzamundo]

BWH Rankings as of 25 April 2015:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bryant Jennings
6. Vyacheslav Glazkov
7. Bermane Stiverne
8. Carlos Takam
9. Tony Thompson
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Artur Szpilka
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Chris Arreola
14. Ruslan Chagaev
15. Mike Perez

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Carlos Takam's KO4 win over Marcelo Luiz Nascimento?

My vote: Takam remains at #8, Nascimento remains unranked.

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Artur Szpilka's TKO2 win over Ty Cobb?

My vote: Szpilka remains at #11, Cobb remains unranked.

Topic C - How are the rankings affected by Wladimir Klitschko's UD12 win over Bryant Jennings?

My vote: Klitschko remains champion, Jennings remains at #5.


Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Takam, Nascimento, Szpilka, Cobb, Klitschko and Jennings. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner than I have done above.

[Horse]

Takam - Up to No. 7
Szpilka - Stays at No. 11
Klitschko - Stays as champion
Jennings - Stays at No. 5

The rest - No change

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

Takam up to #6.
Szpillka down to #12.
The rest No Change.

[Tony1244]

I always hesitate to do this because I'm always told that I "Did it wrong," kind of like when your wife asks you to do a chore. Here it goes:





My vote: Takam moves up to #7, Nascimento remains unranked.

My vote: Szpilka moves up to #10, Cobb remains unranked.

My vote: Klitschko remains champion, Jennings remains at #5.

Nascimento and Cobb aren't very good, but I try to credit activity.

[Lackeos]

Takam remains at #8, Nascimento remains unranked.
Szpilka remains at #11, Cobb remains unranked.
Klitschko remains champion, Jennings UP TO #4.

Bryant's performance against Wlad was so competitive, I have to move him above Pulev, at least; because Wlad broke his foot off in Pulev's ass. I honestly have gained so much additional respect for Jennings off of that performance, it makes me wonder if he's actually better than Fury, Wilder, and Povetkin. But moving him all the way up to #1 from a loss feels like it'd be going too far.

[Belanio]

My vote: Takam to #6, Nascimento remains unranked.
My vote: Szpilka to #9, Cobb remains unranked.
My vote: Klitschko remains champion, Jennings to #11.

[dagilechia]

Takam 6 Nascimento unranked
Szpilka 9 Cobb unranked
Wlad Champ Jennings 4

[Crease]

Takam up one place... Jennings slips down to 8th.
Frankly, I'm surprised that he is ranked so highly. He hasn't had that many meaningful victories thus far in his career.

[Horse]

Takam up one place... Jennings slips down to 8th.
Frankly, I'm surprised that he is ranked so highly. He hasn't had that many meaningful victories thus far in his career.

Jennings has two wins over current BoxRec forum top 15 ranked fighters.

Only Klitschko & Fury have beaten as many or more.

[keirw]

Takam remains at 8, nascimento stays unranked

Szpilka remains 11, Cobb stays unranked

Klitschko remains Champ, Jennings up to 4

Neither Takam or Szpilka's victories are worthy of a move up the rankings imo.
I think Jennings should move above Pulev given the contrasting performances vs Wlad

[Tarkus]

Takam up to #7, Nascimento remains unranked.
Szpilka up to #10, Cobb remains unranked.
Klitschko remains champion, Jennings down to #6.

[greg]

No change:
Takam remains at #8, Nascimento remains unranked.
Szpilka remains at #11, Cobb remains unranked.
Klitschko remains champion, Jennings remains at #5.

[Freedom2013]

Topic A - Takam up to #7, Nascimento remains unranked.

Topic B - Szpilka up to #10, Cobb remains unranked.

Topic C - Klitschko remains champion, Jennings remains at #5.

[crusader]

Takam to #6
No other changes

[Crease]

Jennings has two wins over current BoxRec forum top 15 ranked fighters. Only Klitschko & Fury have beaten as many or more.

Thanks for that mate, I didn't realise that - but then I don't keep up-to-date with the Forum rankings.


In saying that, I don't know what it is, but I wouldn't rank him in my top 10 of the current Heavies.

[jezzamundo]

Bump, votes will be tallied on the weekend.

[Lennox]

You might find this helps;

www.independentworldboxingrankings.com

[jezzamundo]

You might find this helps;

http://www.independentworldboxingrankings.com

I've always liked these rankings (they're generally better than BoxRec's and far better than the alphabet soup rankings), but I think mine are usually a little better because they are voted on and not determined by a calculator and can adjust for judge corruption and/or incompetence.

[tiny_acres]

You might find this helps;

http://www.independentworldboxingrankings.com

I've always liked these rankings (they're generally better than BoxRec's and far better than the alphabet soup rankings), but I think mine are usually a little better because they are voted on and not determined by a calculator and can adjust for judge corruption and/or incompetence.

Corruption and incompetence in boxing? You must be mistaken.

[Lennox]

Jezzamundo - I agree, I think that a top 10 or 15 is better by a panel. I think much past that and it gets skewed up a bit a not enough people really know enough to decifer who is the 22nd best or 32nd best, after top 15 subjective is better. All ratings some will see some in the wrong positions to some eyes. In yours I think only Chagaev is too high, so overall pretty good. If you look deeper into the IWBR, you will see Chagaev has only beat 1 top 50 opponent in something like 5 years. Perhaps Arreola might be a bit high. IWBR has Glazkov too high, he has done it on merit but subjectively he does not look better than Fury or Wilder or indeed Joshua. Sometimes ABCs have fighters fighting for titles that have never faced a top 100 opponent. You can challenge that and say its just IWBR ratings but it is hard to find meaningful fights of these N100 fighters when you look at their records, if you look on world title fights or lineage you can see the pre-fight rating of the champ and challenger since 1994. Not often do the champs make proper top 10 defences.

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

You might find this helps;

http://www.independentworldboxingrankings.com

Not bad, apart from Glazkov being #3 - but I guess he has kept on "winning" so no surprises there.

Just an FYI: you've got Erkan Teper listed as Erkham Tepper.

[jezzamundo]

Votes have been tallied. Takam improves to #7, Szpilka remains at #11, Wlad remains champion and Jennings stays at #5:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bryant Jennings
6. Vyacheslav Glazkov
7. Carlos Takam
8. Bermane Stiverne
9. Tony Thompson
10. Dereck Chisora
11. Artur Szpilka
12. Steve Cunningham
13. Chris Arreola
14. Ruslan Chagaev
15. Mike Perez