What's up with Wilder?
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jujigatame
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What's up with Wilder?
Been about 3-4 months since his title win, any news of his first defense? I figured they'd want him fighting somewhat frequently since he's in his prime right now. Wlad is fighting Fury so Wlad/Wilder probably can't happen until at least early 2016.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
It's been reported that June 20th is being eyed for his first defense. I expected him to fight Cunningham but certain articles suggested that it would be someone else, though no names were given.
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
Broke his hand....cleared for june return
Re: What's up with Wilder?
If he fights anything less than a top 10 ranked guy, he will get a huge amount of criticism, and rightfully so.
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Top 15 would do.Badhusker wrote:If he fights anything less than a top 10 ranked guy, he will get a huge amount of criticism, and rightfully so.
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jujigatame
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
I wouldn't have that much of a problem with Cunningham, just because I think he got brutally robbed against Glazkov and he's a good guy who deserves a nice payday.
Povetkin would be great but that's probably a total fantasy. Pulev, Glazkov, or even Tony Thompson would be decent. Just please no Chris Arreola. Please.
Povetkin would be great but that's probably a total fantasy. Pulev, Glazkov, or even Tony Thompson would be decent. Just please no Chris Arreola. Please.
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Tarver/Wilder anyone?
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WBC top 15 ratings
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
3 .- Tyson Fury (GB) EBU/BBBC
4 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
5 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Manuel Charr (Lebanon/Syria) BALTIC
10 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
11 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
12 .- Eric Molina (US)
13 .- Chris Arreola (US)
14 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
15 .- Mark De Mori (Australia/Croatia)
Povetkin is fighting Perez, Wlad is probably fighting Fury next, Glazkov is probably going to bide his time until he cashes-in on the IBF mandatory shot at Klitschko, and Stiverne probably won't get an immediate rematch. Everyone from #6 - 15 seems like a plausible candidate to me, to varying degrees. Perhaps it will be Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz, Tony Thompson, or Artur Szpilka.
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
3 .- Tyson Fury (GB) EBU/BBBC
4 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
5 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Manuel Charr (Lebanon/Syria) BALTIC
10 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
11 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
12 .- Eric Molina (US)
13 .- Chris Arreola (US)
14 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
15 .- Mark De Mori (Australia/Croatia)
Povetkin is fighting Perez, Wlad is probably fighting Fury next, Glazkov is probably going to bide his time until he cashes-in on the IBF mandatory shot at Klitschko, and Stiverne probably won't get an immediate rematch. Everyone from #6 - 15 seems like a plausible candidate to me, to varying degrees. Perhaps it will be Lucas Browne, Andy Ruiz, Tony Thompson, or Artur Szpilka.
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Andy Ruiz might make some sense being Mexican a fight in Cali would be BIG or Vegas. He's undefeated and a puncher in his own right
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I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
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Arreola would be a pathetic opponent.Dennis wrote:I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
I sure hope he doesn't take that bum (Arreola), Tarver is waiting for him and I think that would be a good scrap.
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Yes We Can
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
So was Wilder when he won the belt.Horse wrote:Arreola would be a pathetic opponent.Dennis wrote:I highly doubt that Wilder will fight a Top Rank or Main Events boxer in his voluntary title defense. He probably will fight Artur Szpilka, Steve Cunningham, Antonio Tarver or Chris Arreola since all are with Haymon.
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No, he wasn't.Yes We Can wrote:So was Wilder when he won the belt.
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Yes We Can
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?Horse wrote:No, he wasn't.Yes We Can wrote:So was Wilder when he won the belt.
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
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He was far more credible before fighting Stiverne than Arreola is now.Yes We Can wrote:His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
When was the last time Arreola beat someone as good as Scott?
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Yes We Can
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.Horse wrote:He was far more credible before fighting Stiverne than Arreola is now.Yes We Can wrote:His record was better than Arreola's prior to facing Stiverne?
Don't even try and pull that one Neddy.
When was the last time Arreola beat someone as good as Scott?
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
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Scott's better than Arreola.Yes We Can wrote:Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
Arreola doesn't deserve any more world title shots.
Stiverne beat Arreola easily twice, so what would beating him prove?
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I think that unless it is something big like Wlad or at least Fury, Haymon will keep feeding Wilder very beatable opponents.
Re: What's up with Wilder?
hes out on june 20th
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Yes We Can
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.Horse wrote:Scott's better than Arreola.Yes We Can wrote:Scott is a great name to have on your cv, until you watch the fight and appreciate the circumstances. The Chisora bail out was bad, the Wilder one should be career ending.
Arreola would be the 2nd best name on Deontays record. Not a great first defence but not terrible.
Arreola doesn't deserve any more world title shots.
Stiverne beat Arreola easily twice, so what would beating him prove?
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
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You rate Arreola. I think he's garbage.Yes We Can wrote:Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
I can't stand people hyping up that fat waste of space. Scott would beat Arreola, he is awful.
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jujigatame
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
I think Arreola may be marginally better than Scott, when you factor in his durability and Scott's tendency to fall down and not get up against anyone with power.
That said, there are a LOT of better options for Wilder to face.
That said, there are a LOT of better options for Wilder to face.
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Re: What's up with Wilder?
I would never hype him, i think he's average at best. But i dont think its a terrible fight for Wilder at this stage when in comparison to the rest of his cv..Horse wrote:You rate Arreola. I think he's garbage.Yes We Can wrote:Scott has done nothing to suggest he is better than Arreola. if they fought he would likely quit like he did against Chisora and Wilder.
C'mon Horse, triangle theories are not the answer. I'm not disputing the fact Arreola doesn't deserve it, but neither did Deontay. Arreola would be the second best win on his record, and the likelihood is would give him 6-12 rounds of action, whilst posing a couple of problems early door (something Malik was never likely to do BTW).
I can't stand people hyping up that fat waste of space. Scott would beat Arreola, he is awful.
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Suggesting Arreola getting another title shot isn't terrible is overhyping him.Yes We Can wrote:I would never hype him, i think he's average at best. But i dont think its a terrible fight for Wilder at this stage when in comparison to the rest of his cv..
Wilder dominated Stiverne who easily beat fat boy Arreola twice. The fight is totally unacceptable.