PBF v PacMan predictions

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KBB wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:I wouldn't say being dominated and beaten up is walking someone down. You say Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two guys who supposedly walked him down and got their arse handed to them. And both are much bigger than Floyd.
They still walked him down despite not being able to beat on him.

The point of this was to show that Floyd is capable of walking Manny down, sure those guys got beat because they are slower and lesser skilled than Mayweather despite being bigger.

Do you honestly think Floyd is incapable like those slower, bigger men were?
Well, then where are the examples of Manny not being able to fight going backwards?
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Impractical Poster wrote:
KBB wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:I wouldn't say being dominated and beaten up is walking someone down. You say Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two guys who supposedly walked him down and got their arse handed to them. And both are much bigger than Floyd.
They still walked him down despite not being able to beat on him.

The point of this was to show that Floyd is capable of walking Manny down, sure those guys got beat because they are slower and lesser skilled than Mayweather despite being bigger.

Do you honestly think Floyd is incapable like those slower, bigger men were?
Well, then where are the examples of Manny not being able to fight going backwards?

:TU:

He says Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two fighters who walked him down and got beat up.

That's Brut for you.
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IKSRTFO wrote: :TU:

He says Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two fighters who walked him down and got beat up.

That's Brut for you.
I guess you missed the entire point of that. I ask you again, do you think those other guys are faster, more accurate than Floyd? Do you really think that Floyd isn't going to hit Manny especially if he's walking him backwards?

Floyd has the height, reach and equal (if not faster) speed than Manny, plus he is more accurate than any fighter in the sport. So again, if Mayweather is walking him down, do you think he will not land on Pacquiao??
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KBB wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote: :TU:

He says Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two fighters who walked him down and got beat up.

That's Brut for you.
I guess you missed the entire point of that. I ask you again, do you think those other guys are faster, more accurate than Floyd? Do you really think that Floyd isn't going to hit Manny especially if he's walking him backwards?

Floyd has the height, reach and equal (if not faster) speed than Manny, plus he is more accurate than any fighter in the sport. So again, if Mayweather is walking him down, do you think he will not land on Pacquiao??

That's as ignorant as saying Ortiz successfully walked Floyd down therefore Pacquiao will be successful doing it.
Name someone who walked Pacquiao down and was successful doing it? Floyd may talk mad poo but he isn't stupid enough to do something that may not work
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I am expecting Floyd to look to back Manny up by getting off first and making him think defense as much as possible.

I could be totally wrong, but waiting on the back foot and trying to time a guy as fast and accurate as Manny? Now THAT seems dangerous. He has the reach advantage and a ridiculously good lead right, why would he wait? But, I'll watch anyway as I am often wrong about these things.

If things go well fro Floyd in the fight, I think he would love to eventually walk Manny into a check hook as he dives in looking to land, but I suspect he will only do that if he really feels he has the timing down. Again, I think he will actually be safer using his length to get off first and keep Pac at the end of his punches.

I think the Mosley fight is instructive, I think he got caught waiting in round 2 and ate a couple of big right hands. In the subsequent rounds, he started to use his speed and variety of punches to back him up. In the end, he made Mosley less dangerous by getting off and backing him up. Manny is faster for sure, but also a little smaller and easier to hit.

But, no matter what style you employ, there is always danger when you are in the ring with one of the best fighters in the world.
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jas80s wrote:I am expecting Floyd to look to back Manny up by getting off first and making him think defense as much as possible.

I could be totally wrong, but waiting on the back foot and trying to time a guy as fast and accurate as Manny? Now THAT seems dangerous. He has the reach advantage and a ridiculously good lead right, why would he wait? But, I'll watch anyway as I am often wrong about these things.

If things go well fro Floyd in the fight, I think he would love to eventually walk Manny into a check hook as he dives in looking to land, but I suspect he will only do that if he really feels he has the timing down. Again, I think he will actually be safer using his length to get off first and keep Pac at the end of his punches.

I think the Mosley fight is instructive, I think he got caught waiting in round 2 and ate a couple of big right hands. In the subsequent rounds, he started to use his speed and variety of punches to back him up. In the end, he made Mosley less dangerous by getting off and backing him up. Manny is faster for sure, but also a little smaller and easier to hit.

But, no matter what style you employ, there is always danger when you are in the ring with one of the best fighters in the world.
Manny being easier to hit than Mosley is debatable. Mosley gets tagged a lot but granted he has a great chin especially in his prime. He stood toe to toe with prime DLH without even blinking.
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I actually believe Floyd will fight on his front foot and walk Manny down. Floyd is defensively responsible, unlike Rios and Margarito. Floyd is better than both of those guys in every aspect of boxing, now if Floyd walks Paquiao down and gets him to go backwards while still being intelligent and using range it's actually a smart thing to do against Pacquiao. What I find to not be a intelligent game plan from Floyd is to think he should be super defensive and rely on one punch at a time against a guy with fast hand and foot speed, we already know the judges will score in aggression, would be foolish for Floyd to allow Pacquiao to rack up his punch count. There are going to be a lot of people surprised with what Floyd is going to do in this fight, Floyd isn't a one trick pony. I see a lot of lead right hands for Floyd, while he's on his front foot, Floyd will only retreat when Pacquiao is offensive to limit Pacquiao from getting off combinations, but I would actually bet money that Floyd only goes backwards when he needs to. The only other time I see Floyd getting on his bike is the final round after he has the fight in the bag.
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Mayweather-Pacquiao-Prediction

Pick: Mayweather by Majority Decision Floyd is too slick, skilled, and elusive, to be
troubled by Manny. Manny might win three early rounds, but once Floyd gets the range and
can establish a hit and not be hit strategy, he should win easily. Judges will have it 117111,
116112, and 114114.

There is too much money on the line for one judge not to have a strange card, and the draw
card will be the controversy. The other two judges will be impartial and fair.

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KBB wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote: :TU:

He says Manny can't fight backwards when being walked down then give examples of two fighters who walked him down and got beat up.

That's Brut for you.
I guess you missed the entire point of that. I ask you again, do you think those other guys are faster, more accurate than Floyd? Do you really think that Floyd isn't going to hit Manny especially if he's walking him backwards?

Floyd has the height, reach and equal (if not faster) speed than Manny, plus he is more accurate than any fighter in the sport. So again, if Mayweather is walking him down, do you think he will not land on Pacquiao??
But, you specifically stated that Manny cannot fight going backwards. Usually, when someone makes an absolute statement like that, there are examples to use as to why a statement like that would be made in the first place. You made a blatantly false statement and are unwilling to admit your folly. Like always.
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It will be a draw
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Impractical Poster wrote:But, you specifically stated that Manny cannot fight going backwards. Usually, when someone makes an absolute statement like that, there are examples to use as to why a statement like that would be made in the first place. You made a blatantly false statement and are unwilling to admit your folly. Like always.
If you go and watch those fights, he may have been on the run when they were attacking but he wasn't exactly counterpunching at those moments. When MP fought those guys he attacked then retreated and rinse and repeated but never did he counterpunch while being walked down.

There is a difference, you know.
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All i know is that if someone gets robbed it gonna be Manny.

No way Floyd gets robbed in the biggest fight ever against a Filipino.

The neveda officials fuucking love Floyd.

And this is coming from an American.
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My prediction, in the words of a one time great heavyweight champ =- PAIN!
Floyd by KO/TKO.
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They have run so many polls asking fans who they think will win the fight and i haven't seen one having Floyd winning yet. I think that this is ridiculous and just a popularity poll if nothing else. I'm a Manny fan and would consider him defeating Floyd Saturday one of the greatest sports moments in my life and i'm from New England where parades are like Easter, happens every year.

But come on people. Manny is a SEVERE underdog in every sense of the word. Don't let his popularity get in the way of the facts. Maybe if they fought 30 rounds straight Manny could catch him or something but we're talking 12 measly rounds, 36 minutes. It's just not enough time and it's going to go by in a flash. I mean, it's almost over already. Floyd is the king of winning the majority of those 36 minutes. The guy RARELY leaves the ring with a mark on his face. Has he ever had a shiner or sun glasses in a post fight interview? The only blood we've seen from him was from a headbutt from Ortiz. He's impossible to hit squarely so if you have that kind of defense, you don't need to do much else to win a round. Throw a couple of flurries at Manny each round, we know Manny's defense is more like Randall Tex Cobbs recently, so he wins the round just like that. Manny needs way more time for figure this guy out because I don't care how good people think Roach is, he has no idea either. 12 rounds won't be enough and if Manny and Roach are looking for that Willie Wonker Golden Ticket Punch, forget about it. For 36 minutes straight, no one maintains the concentration like Floyd. He can't be caught.

So people, see this fight for what it really is. It's a mismatch in which most of us are hoping for that Rudy like moment that will most likely NOT happen. That Kirk Gibson home run limping around the bases. Heck, that Rocky II moment. David is fighting Goliath Saturday boys and there's a 99% chance we go to bed saying "boy that fight sucked...Manny sucks" or "how could i possibly think Manny could beat that guy". Manny winning would be the biggest upset since Tyson was reaching for his mouthpiece trying to beat the count. Call it what it is and start making sense of this thing. There's a tiny chance Manny pulls it off and THAT is why we are watching. That tiny chance. Anyone expecting anything more is going to be heartbroken. Not this guy. My eyes are wide open. :o
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Taansend wrote:It will be a draw

You might be onto something there. Both sides can scream robbery, but neither gets the loss. More $$$.

As far as the polls go, keep in mind that most of Floyd's fans are ones that hate him. All of Manny's fans are ones that love him. :OhYes:
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I predict Justin Bieber will be in the entourage holding up one of Mayweathers belts as he makes his grand walk into the ring...
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KBB wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:But, you specifically stated that Manny cannot fight going backwards. Usually, when someone makes an absolute statement like that, there are examples to use as to why a statement like that would be made in the first place. You made a blatantly false statement and are unwilling to admit your folly. Like always.
If you go and watch those fights, he may have been on the run when they were attacking but he wasn't exactly counterpunching at those moments. When MP fought those guys he attacked then retreated and rinse and repeated but never did he counterpunch while being walked down.

There is a difference, you know.
:lol:
The 2nd KD of Cotto was caused by a counter.
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A good big man will always beat a good little man. That is all
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caldo2025 wrote:They have run so many polls asking fans who they think will win the fight and i haven't seen one having Floyd winning yet. I think that this is ridiculous and just a popularity poll if nothing else. I'm a Manny fan and would consider him defeating Floyd Saturday one of the greatest sports moments in my life and i'm from New England where parades are like Easter, happens every year.

But come on people. Manny is a SEVERE underdog in every sense of the word. Don't let his popularity get in the way of the facts. Maybe if they fought 30 rounds straight Manny could catch him or something but we're talking 12 measly rounds, 36 minutes. It's just not enough time and it's going to go by in a flash. I mean, it's almost over already. Floyd is the king of winning the majority of those 36 minutes. The guy RARELY leaves the ring with a mark on his face. Has he ever had a shiner or sun glasses in a post fight interview? The only blood we've seen from him was from a headbutt from Ortiz. He's impossible to hit squarely so if you have that kind of defense, you don't need to do much else to win a round. Throw a couple of flurries at Manny each round, we know Manny's defense is more like Randall Tex Cobbs recently, so he wins the round just like that. Manny needs way more time for figure this guy out because I don't care how good people think Roach is, he has no idea either. 12 rounds won't be enough and if Manny and Roach are looking for that Willie Wonker Golden Ticket Punch, forget about it. For 36 minutes straight, no one maintains the concentration like Floyd. He can't be caught.

So people, see this fight for what it really is. It's a mismatch in which most of us are hoping for that Rudy like moment that will most likely NOT happen. That Kirk Gibson home run limping around the bases. Heck, that Rocky II moment. David is fighting Goliath Saturday boys and there's a 99% chance we go to bed saying "boy that fight sucked...Manny sucks" or "how could i possibly think Manny could beat that guy". Manny winning would be the biggest upset since Tyson was reaching for his mouthpiece trying to beat the count. Call it what it is and start making sense of this thing. There's a tiny chance Manny pulls it off and THAT is why we are watching. That tiny chance. Anyone expecting anything more is going to be heartbroken. Not this guy. My eyes are wide open. :o

Very good breakdown and a fair one too from an admitted Manny Pacquiao fan, why can't all Packy's fans be this objective? People like Ricky and a few others here will have a heart attack admitting to something like this, just saying one good thing about Floyd kills them.

I like Manny too but I cannot stand the fans of his who have no objectivity, I like Floyd but I have been objective enough to stay fair, even admitting I believe JLC won the first fight vs Floyd, Zab knocked him down because I'm a real boxing fan.

Nuthuggers and fanboys have a problem admitting such things but your spot on assessment should loom as an example in impartiality for all of Manny's fans, even the ones who are nuthuggers and fanboys/PacTURDS.
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Floyd boring dec......walk Manny down. Lot of lead rights to Manny's face. It would be awesome if Manny knfo Floyd.
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Agree with Jack and Caldo2025. Floyd too big and too fast for Manny, and has great defense. I see it as a UD12, similar scores as Jack, but maybe even wider.
If this was in an alley somewhere, then MP would take him out, but this is in the ring scoring points.

PS- my name on here is MP, but that's not reflective of Manny... just happens that I picked that codename a long time ago and stuck with it.
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FloydtheDuck wrote:
1) I think Pacquiaos in and out attacks will win him the early rounds
2) By round 3 Floyd will make the proper adjustments and begin to time Pacquiao with straight right hands and check left hooks.
3) By the 6th round it will be apparent that Floyd is in charge and Floyd will begin to press the attack
4) By round 8 Pacquiao will be beat up, but Pacquiao being the great warrior he is will go out on his shield and give the fans one last effort to land a big shot which be his final hurrah in the fight
5) Sometime between round 8 and 10 Pacquiao will be the worst for wear and Floyd will win the fight by 10th round TKO with either Roach stopping the fight or the referee waving the the fight off.
6) It will be a entertaining fight but not many people will me clamoring for a rematch due to the lopsidedness of the fight after the first few rounds.

haha, :OhYes:

this is like a floyd fans wet dream. and couldn't be any dumber unless you included
7. lights dim, red hot chili peppers comes over the pa
8. wlad comes running down to the ring dressed as a ref.
9. wlad knocks out the ref (not before clinching 6 times) and both fighters look confused
10. wlad lands huge right on floyd, and money is on queer street, arum, roach and manny fans erupt, as pacman looks to go in for the kill.
11. manny rushes in on floyd, and wlad lands left hook , that makes marquez shot look like a bee sting
12. wlad counts both men out , as ring is littered in wine glasses and rolex watches

showtime and hob both cut to their unofficial judges who each have their own fighters winning every round
Well talking shit won't change the outcome. If you think this is such a unlikely scenario I hope you're a betting man, I feel anything can happen but I think this is a fight Floyd could potentially get a stoppage due to Pacquiao being reckless. But since you want to be a disrespectful punk and act like my opinion/prediction is so very wrong, I'll see you May 3rd and expect a apology after a dominant performance by Floyd whether he stops Pacquiao or not. I don't go around disrespecting you, stop being such a punk.

I don't mind when people have a different opinion than me, that's fine. But to contradict someone with out supplying any type of respectful argument are clear signs you're nothing more than a troll. You're username is a clear indication you're nothing more than a troll.
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The only folks who are going to be shocked at how this fight goes are the ones who, in spite of all the evidence being right in front of their eyes, chose to believe Manny had a realistic chance to win this fight.

Pac has one chance: that is to hit Floyd with something really hard, either KOing him or making him go so defensive he doesn't fight.

Ask yourself how likely that is.

How likely is Manny to hit Floyd with something that totally cows him?

If he can't do that, it will be round after round of blisteringly crisp counters until Pac either doesn't get up or someone mercifully stops it.

He is tailor made for Floyd.
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koolkc107 wrote:The only folks who are going to be shocked at how this fight goes are the ones who, in spite of all the evidence being right in front of their eyes, chose to believe Manny had a realistic chance to win this fight.

Pac has one chance: that is to hit Floyd with something really hard, either KOing him or making him go so defensive he doesn't fight.

Ask yourself how likely that is.

How likely is Manny to hit Floyd with something that totally cows him?

If he can't do that, it will be round after round of blisteringly crisp counters until Pac either doesn't get up or someone mercifully stops it.

He is tailor made for Floyd.
No matter how tailor made Manny is, if he lands a flush left FMJ will be hurt and quite possibly go down. It has been nearly 8 months since Maidana II. FMJ is not as quick or fast as he once was. Of course neither is Manny.

The fight will ride on how few flush shots Pac can land on FMJ, how Floyd recovers from however few, and FMJ's body attack.

What if FMJ is unable to recover the way he did v SSM? The early KD and age led to the trigger less SSM we saw v Pac.

Age is the bitch that owns us all eventually.
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I think Floyd being 38 is the one thing that might even this fight up a bit. If Floyd was 2 years younger than Pac, it would be Pac fans that use the age disadvantage as an excuse. Hopefully we won't hear things like Floyd aged overnight, or Pac has been in too many wars, etc. I think both guys are in great shape and look great for their age. Roach claims Pac is stronger, faster, and has gotten back the killer instinct he had 5 yrs ago. Floyd Sr. is more honest, saying Floyd isn't where he used to be, but still no doubt good enough to whoop Pacquiao's ass. We will see.
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