British Top 30 P4P May 2015

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British Top 30 P4P May 2015

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1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) Kell Brook
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Tyson Fury
6. (6.) James DeGale
7. (7.) George Groves
8. (15.) Andy Lee (Irish)
9. (8.) Martin Murray
10. (9.) Scott Quigg

11. (10.) Ola Afolabi
12. (11.) Lee Selby
13. (12.) Tony Bellew
14. (13.) Jamie McDonnell
15. (14.) Billy Joe Saunders
16. (16.) Lee Haskins
17. (17.) Paul Smith
18. (18.) Frankie Gavin
19. (19.) Ricky Burns
20. (20.) Liam Walsh

21. (21.) Dereck Chisora
22. (22.) Stuart Hall
23. (23.) Paul Butler
24. (24.) Chris Eubank Jr
25. (RE.) Derry Mathews
26. (25.) Anthony Crolla
27. (26.) Ovill McKenzie
28. (27.) Josh Warrington
29. (28.) Terry Flanagan
30. (29.) Nathan Cleverly

Out - (30.) Kevin Mitchell
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Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.
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I am sure the question has been asked a million times but why continue to put Andy Lee in your British Top 30?
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brooks win in usa over porter is better then beating kiko and ducking quigg..............froch wouldnt fight degale............has he retired???????????
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Decent list. Lots of fights coming up in the next few months involving these fighters, will be interesting to see how the outcomes affect these rankings.
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Mitchell should be top 20 never mind top 30 IMO. Hopefully he will prove that on the 30th.
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Not sure how Derry can push Mitchell off the list given how scraped through his last fight.
Also, where's Callum Smith? He won practically every round vs a solid Euro level opponent in his last fight, which is more than Frankie Gavin, Ricky Burns, Nathan Cleverly and even his big brother have managed recently.
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macaca wrote:I am sure the question has been asked a million times but why continue to put Andy Lee in your British Top 30?
It's been asked a lot of times.
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los2 wrote:brooks win in usa over porter is better then beating kiko and ducking quigg..............froch wouldnt fight degale............has he retired???????????
How much better than Martinez is Porter? If Brook beats Gavin well this month then he might take back the No. 2 spot.

Froch hasn't retired.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Decent list. Lots of fights coming up in the next few months involving these fighters, will be interesting to see how the outcomes affect these rankings.
Very interesting. A lot of 50-50ish fights this month.

It's sad that Hearn thinks giving us fights were the outcome is not obvious is a PPV concept, but that's the way things seem to be going.
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Horse wrote:
macaca wrote:I am sure the question has been asked a million times but why continue to put Andy Lee in your British Top 30?
It's been asked a lot of times.
And answered how?
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Horse wrote:
los2 wrote:brooks win in usa over porter is better then beating kiko and ducking quigg..............froch wouldnt fight degale............has he retired???????????
How much better than Martinez is Porter? If Brook beats Gavin well this month then he might take back the No. 2 spot.

Froch hasn't retired.
brook beat a undefeated american in usa...........frampton in his hometown beat a guy who lost to rendall munroe ...........
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danamba7 wrote:Mitchell should be top 20 never mind top 30 IMO. Hopefully he will prove that on the 30th.
I don't like his choice of opponents since the Burns loss almost 3 years ago. I haven't been impressed with him.
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keirw wrote:Not sure how Derry can push Mitchell off the list given how scraped through his last fight.
Also, where's Callum Smith? He won practically every round vs a solid Euro level opponent in his last fight, which is more than Frankie Gavin, Ricky Burns, Nathan Cleverly and even his big brother have managed recently.
Mathews won against a fairly decent opponent for the WBA interim title so he re-entered.

Callum Smith's last fight was over 5 months ago and his opponent was nothing special, although Smith did enter the rankings for beating him. Smith's record is not good enough to stay in the rankings for long if he is inactive.

Those other fighters you mention have better records than Callum and have longer to get another decent result than Callum had.
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macaca wrote:And answered how?
To simplify things.
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los2 wrote:brook beat a undefeated american in usa...........frampton in his hometown beat a guy who lost to rendall munroe ...........
Winning away from home is not worth a great deal more than winning at home.

I don't think that it is clear that Porter is better than Martinez P4P and Frampton has a better overall record than Brook.
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Horse wrote:
los2 wrote:brooks win in usa over porter is better then beating kiko and ducking quigg..............froch wouldnt fight degale............has he retired???????????
How much better than Martinez is Porter? If Brook beats Gavin well this month then he might take back the No. 2 spot.

Froch hasn't retired.
not for a few days but he aint fighting...............brook is no.1.....................
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los2 wrote:not for a few days but he aint fighting...............brook is no.1.....................
If Froch retires then maybe Brook will be No. 1 next month.
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Horse wrote:
los2 wrote:not for a few days but he aint fighting...............brook is no.1.....................
If Froch retires then maybe Brook will be No. 1 next month.
Frochs gloves are hung.
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Porter was far better than Martinez.....Jamie Mc should now be top 10 definitely above Groves
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I'd have Frampton at Nuber 1
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Switch hitter wrote:Porter was far better than Martinez.....Jamie Mc should now be top 10 definitely above Groves
Porter was nowhere near as proven. He was riding a wave of Adulation after his wins against Paulie and Devon, righlty so, but Martinez was going through a period of his own high form, one i consider to be better than Paulie and Devon.

I also dont buy into the fact that Winning away from home means much, losing a robbery maybe, but winning away from home should have no bearing (especially when a lot of these guys are used to fighting away after good amateur careers)

McDonnell should be top 5 after his win (one i completely writ him off in may i add) , Ceja, Hall and Kameda are not that far behind Frampton and Brooks best wins.
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Winning away from home means absolutely nothing. Has Mayweather won away from the US?

It's two blokes in a ring, doesn't matter if it's in Middlesbrough or Mars.
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Yes We Can wrote:
Switch hitter wrote:Porter was far better than Martinez.....Jamie Mc should now be top 10 definitely above Groves
Porter was nowhere near as proven. He was riding a wave of Adulation after his wins against Paulie and Devon, righlty so, but Martinez was going through a period of his own high form, one i consider to be better than Paulie and Devon.

I also dont buy into the fact that Winning away from home means much, losing a robbery maybe, but winning away from home should have no bearing (especially when a lot of these guys are used to fighting away after good amateur careers)

McDonnell should be top 5 after his win (one i completely writ him off in may i add) , Ceja, Hall and Kameda are not that far behind Frampton and Brooks best wins.
Porter was unbeaten unlike Kiko who had lost 3 times to the bin man
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macaca wrote:Frochs gloves are hung.
Not officially.
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