Mayweather vs GGG ???

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ikorolev wrote:So, has Lara fought at 160 ? Go back to school and learn some logic. You are making mockery out of yourself.
Did I say Lara fought at 160? No but he did call Triple G out who has stated that he is willing to go to 154 to fight Floyd but is somehow ducking Lara at 154.

Ward called him out but he is unwilling to move up for that fight but is readily available to move down for Floyd for which you give him a pass because he wants a big money fight but hasn't beaten a P4P to deserve it.

Yeah, you are really objective. :roll:
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fergusg wrote:You guys are arguing over a contest that will probably never materialise because Lara is an Al Haymon fighter, whilst Golovkin is firmly tied to HBO.

So how can any of these guys be accused of being a "duck2 when they compete in different weight classes and with seemingly insurmountable commercial and political hurdles scuppering the possibility of such a fight from taking place? :confused:
Just as it was stated that Floyd vs Manny would never take place,huh?? :roll:

This is your excuse? Again, you are as lame as your lack of objectivity. :doh: :witzend: :zzz:
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As many mentioned, the fight isn't gonna happen just because there is no way Floyd will want it at 38. Anyway, can you imagine how much Floyd would be running from GGG if he ran from Manny ?

Let's hope for a fight which will not be boring to happen:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453 ... witter.com
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ikorolev wrote:As many mentioned, the fight isn't gonna happen just because there is no way Floyd will want it at 38. Anyway, can you imagine how much Floyd would be running from GGG if he ran from Manny ?

Let's hope for a fight which will not be boring to happen:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453 ... witter.com
You sound like one of those stupid Casual fans that are repeating stupidity like Floyd ran from Manny, how does one throw more and land more if he is running??
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KBB wrote:
ikorolev wrote:As many mentioned, the fight isn't gonna happen just because there is no way Floyd will want it at 38. Anyway, can you imagine how much Floyd would be running from GGG if he ran from Manny ?

Let's hope for a fight which will not be boring to happen:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453 ... witter.com
You sound like one of those stupid Casual fans that are repeating stupidity like Floyd ran from Manny, how does one throw more and land more if he is running??
Easily. Running includes throwing a lot of jabs.
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fergusg wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Let's hope for a fight which will not be boring to happen:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453 ... witter.com
Dan Rafael (ESPN) believes that HBO only agreed to rubber-stamp Cotto’s bout with Daniel Geale under the condition that he agreed to face Canelo Alvarez in his very next bout.

Meanwhile, according to the transcripts of an interview held with Oscar De La Hoya, which was published today, he believes that Canelo & Golovkin will eventually face each other, but only at the “right time” because the ginger-haired Mexican youngster may engage in bouts with the likes of Cotto, Lemieux & Bradley beforehand, with all of them taking place somewhere around the 154lb mark.

Now I’m only reading between the lines, but Oscar’s repeated use of the words “eventually” and “at the right time”, coupled with the fact that Canelo is the only marquee name in his stable, suggests that it’ll be a couple of years before we witness a bout between Golovkin & Alvarez.

By which time, the Kazakh could either be competing as a 168lb-er and have to drain weight to make some sort of catch-weight stipulation… or he’ll be 35 years old and be considered slightly past-his-prime.

I could be wrong about this… and I really do hope that I am, but I have a sneaking suspicion that I’m going to be 100% bang on the button about this prediction. :o
I hope you are wrong. I am hoping one or a few of this will happen:
- Cotto will lose to Geale
- Lemieux will lose to N'Dam
- Canelo will not listen to DLH and will insist on fighting GGG

The first two outcomes are not very likely, but I think Canelo is no Quillin and he makes his opinion heard. He didn't have to fight Lara, but he did.
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If Cotto loses to Geale, I doubt HBO will want him against Canelo.
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fergusg wrote:
ikorolev wrote:If Cotto loses to Geale, I doubt HBO will want him against Canelo.
Whilst I’ll concede that Miguel Cotto is ready for the taking, Daniel Geale is even further past-his-prime… and he’s almost certainly not the right man for the job.

Therefore, I cannot see the limited Aussie being capable of derailing the Puerto Rican money train! This is simply a warm-up bout. :TU:
Trout who fought Cotto thinks otherwise:

http://www.BS.com/austin-trout ... ale--90645?
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MachoTime wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Nope, its the void gayfeather rules saying, i aint fighting anyone whom is either a threat or has the same size as me. Thats why it wont happen.

Oh, now there is an intelligent comment. :doh: Floyd has been picking on guys much smaller than him? How about Pac vs GGG? Pacquiao is actually bigger than Floyd in pretty much every category except for a little in height and reach. Taller doesn't mean bigger. Taller means taller. Chest size, biceps, calves, wrists, fists, etc etc. all favor Pac.

I mentioned probably a couple of times whenever Floyd wins, GGG or some other bigger, better guy comes up. Some of you guys are just effing retarded. Consider this; Floyd is not a huge welterweight, and is 38 yrs old, with one more fight. Are you actually dumb enough to even hope he will take on a prime, solid, dominant 160 pounder like GGG? Would I like to see Floyd, if he was naturally 20 pounds heavier and 6-8 yrs younger take on GGG? Absolutely! For those of you that said he would be competitive and has a good chance to win speaks volumes.

I still hear comparisons of Manny's beatdowns of a 145lb DLH or Cotto, and criticize Floyd for having a tougher fight with them, conveniently forgetting Floyd fought them at their full weight. DLH weighed 17 lbs more vs Floyd than he did Manny, who he fought about a year and a half later. DLH was passed his best in both bouts, but there was a world of difference between the two versions of DLH. Yes, Floyd has fought two guys at 154. Imo was stupid to do it also. DLH, Cotto, and Canelo are guys he could compete with, but he was taking a big chance fighting them.

How about this; Since Floyd has a huge disadvantage in weight and age, how about GGG cut to 147 to fight him? He is prime age, an excellent fighter, and that would even the playing field. Not fair? :doh: Like I said before....just like the Pac fight, and many others, Floyd even if he beat GGG at 154 would only be beating a drained GGG - and would never have done it if it was at full 160.......so, Floyd is a pussy for not doing it at 160........if he is supposed to be so good.......fight him at 160. It is a no-win situation. Actually it is for both guys. So many want Floyd to lose soooooo bad, they will keep moving the goalpost.
You ever read the posts that you write. Your a serious Mayweather Nutthugger. Especially the last paragraph. You have issues.



I figured there would be at least one person that is not smart enough to get it. If speaking the truth makes me a Mayweather Nuthugger, being too stupid to comprehend it makes you a fornicating idiot.
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I picked Manny v Floyd but I'd pick Floyd over GGG even if it wasn't catch-weight :box:
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I figured there would be at least one person that is not smart enough to get it. If speaking the truth makes me a Mayweather Nuthugger, being too stupid to comprehend it makes you a effing idiot.
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There's no sport on the planet come's anywhere near boxing match that is classed has a SUPERFIGHT you only have too look at MAY/PAC the
fight it self didn't live up too all the hype but look at all the VIP'S and all the people who don't follow the game that took a interest in it I laughed when I read somewhere on-line that some bloke asked this guy what country Manny was from at local watering hole before the fight
he was called a imbercile :lol: what a better way to go out in another SUPERFIGHT in September don't you think so :??[/quote]>>> ClivePatrickLyons


Boxing ignoramuses thought Holmes vs Butterbean and Duran vs Pazienza were superfights. My friends and working buddies at those times were confused I had virtually no interest in these fights.

"I thought you were a boxing fan, Tony." Exactly, which is why I told them I wasn't interested. They were very confused. :witzend:
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I'm no fan of Mayweather but I'd never criticise a fighter for not moving up. Boxers don't have to.
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Ezzard wrote:I'm no fan of Mayweather but I'd never criticise a fighter for not moving up. Boxers don't have to.

I'm not saying Mayweather is obliged to take it. I am saying it would really cement his legacy if he took the fight and won, as others mentioned. There would be so much bickering as to whether it would be @ 154, or 160, or a catch-weight, that I do agree, the fight is highly unlikely to materialize.
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I'd agree with that...if he took it and it was at the proper weight limit it would be easily his greatest achievement. But I don't think he'd win.

I guess I'm just saying there's a hundred things to criticise Mayweather for...not moving up to 160 is not one of them.
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Ezzard wrote:I'd agree with that...if he took it and it was at the proper weight limit it would be easily his greatest achievement. But I don't think he'd win.

I guess I'm just saying there's a hundred things to criticise Mayweather for...not moving up to 160 is not one of them.
It's funny how everyone just throws GGG in the mix when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant a fight with Mayweather at any weight, in order for him to get this fight he should have to face a beat Lara (the other champion at Jr MW) first, besides Erislandy called him out and he and his fans are making a ton of excuses for those two not to face another like (GGG is looking for a big money fight) when it makes no sense at all for him to just fight the top guy there without having went through the other champion first.

GGG hasn't even beaten a top P4P fighter yet and Floyd has beaten many, when Golovkin finally beats Lara or someone else in the P4P list then he would've earned his shot at Floyd.
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Don't worry, Brut. Floyd is safe, because he never takes at the most dangerous opponent out there, and GGG is that most dangerous opponent available at 154. No need to pull Lara crap again.
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KBB wrote:
Ezzard wrote:I'd agree with that...if he took it and it was at the proper weight limit it would be easily his greatest achievement. But I don't think he'd win.

I guess I'm just saying there's a hundred things to criticise Mayweather for...not moving up to 160 is not one of them.
It's funny how everyone just throws GGG in the mix when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant a fight with Mayweather at any weight, in order for him to get this fight he should have to face a beat Lara (the other champion at Jr MW) first, besides Erislandy called him out and he and his fans are making a ton of excuses for those two not to face another like (GGG is looking for a big money fight) when it makes no sense at all for him to just fight the top guy there without having went through the other champion first.

GGG hasn't even beaten a top P4P fighter yet and Floyd has beaten many, when Golovkin finally beats Lara or someone else in the P4P list then he would've earned his shot at Floyd.
That's some absurd reasoning right there. "GGG can't fight Floyd, because he's never fought a top fighter. So he can't fight a top fighter, like Floyd."

Good job.
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Bobbyptsd wrote:
KBB wrote: It's funny how everyone just throws GGG in the mix when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant a fight with Mayweather at any weight, in order for him to get this fight he should have to face a beat Lara (the other champion at Jr MW) first, besides Erislandy called him out and he and his fans are making a ton of excuses for those two not to face another like (GGG is looking for a big money fight) when it makes no sense at all for him to just fight the top guy there without having went through the other champion first.

GGG hasn't even beaten a top P4P fighter yet and Floyd has beaten many, when Golovkin finally beats Lara or someone else in the P4P list then he would've earned his shot at Floyd.
That's some absurd reasoning right there. "GGG can't fight Floyd, because he's never fought a top fighter. So he can't fight a top fighter, like Floyd."

Good job.
Are you expecting Brut to show some signs of logic when talking about Floyd ?
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ikorolev wrote:Don't worry, Brut. Floyd is safe, because he never takes at the most dangerous opponent out there, and GGG is that most dangerous opponent available at 154. No need to pull Lara crap again.
... and I got support from Floyd Sr: "He aint fighting no damn giant" :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/5/10/85 ... damn-giant
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Yawn.

They can fight at 154.

If GGG can actually demonstrate he can make 154.

Till Golovkin does that, this thread is just folks wishin', just like folks spent years wishin' Pac would get a shot.

What is funny is the same guys getting all butthurt when someone suggests that Floyd shouldn't skip 2 weight classes and fight at middleweight aint got "boo" to say when it is suggested GGG try 1 weight class north, where plenty of guys can't wait to get a crack at him.

Just special...
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ikorolev wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:
KBB wrote: It's funny how everyone just throws GGG in the mix when he has done absolutely nothing to warrant a fight with Mayweather at any weight, in order for him to get this fight he should have to face a beat Lara (the other champion at Jr MW) first, besides Erislandy called him out and he and his fans are making a ton of excuses for those two not to face another like (GGG is looking for a big money fight) when it makes no sense at all for him to just fight the top guy there without having went through the other champion first.

GGG hasn't even beaten a top P4P fighter yet and Floyd has beaten many, when Golovkin finally beats Lara or someone else in the P4P list then he would've earned his shot at Floyd.
That's some absurd reasoning right there. "GGG can't fight Floyd, because he's never fought a top fighter. So he can't fight a top fighter, like Floyd."

Good job.
Are you expecting Brut to show some signs of logic when talking about Floyd ?
An entire post of logic and since you had no reasonable and true logic to dispute it you result to a sorry and lame insult.

There are many people who will say that GGG hasn't beaten one top P4P fighter and has done nothing to deserve a shot at Floyd, only lame ass Golovkin fans like you are not objective enough to admit the truth about this.

Has Golovkin unified his division? Has he beaten the Lineal Champion? Has he bothered to addressed Lara's challenge? No, GGG is ducking by the same standard idiots like you have been judging Floyd on the Manny debacle for years but at least Floyd tried to make the fight happen in 2010 and Manny ducked.

GGG is screaming I'm a MW when Ward calls him out and then he's screaming I'll fight Floyd but use the excuse of wanting a big paycheck when Lara wants him.

GGG is ducking Lara.
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Blah, blah, blah. Floyd is just afraid of the "damn giant" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ikorolev wrote:Brut, where is your objectivity you talk about so much ? At 154, is there a more dangerous opponent than GGG ? If not, what is so wrong with Floyd fighting him ?
My objectivity, as if you have room to talk about being objective. You are clearly avoiding/ducking and making all type of excuses for GGG but then try with a lame attempt to state I'm not being objective.

First of all here's my objectivity; GGG is not even a Jr. MW, he is a full fledge, bonafide MW and comes in on Fight Night around 173lbs, Floyd is in reality a WW who usually comes in on Fight Night weighing less than the WW limit, true evidence of this can be found in the Canelo bout when he weighed in at 152 but then came in on fight night at 146 or so.

GGG hasn't done anything at all to warrant a shot at Floyd, absolutely nothing of which you won't even admit the truth of this.

If GGG was a WW with the names on his resume not one person would be here saying he deserves a shot at Floyd, his record is no better than Keith Thurman's.
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KBB wrote: GGG hasn't done anything at all to warrant a shot at Floyd, absolutely nothing of which you won't even admit the truth of this.
GGG is in top 10 p4p. Who else from the top 10 Floyd hasn't fought but could realistically fight weight wise ? Don't look for excuses. Floyd is safe. No "damn giant" for poor little Floyd :lol: :lol: :lol:
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