Pacquiao v Mayweather: Your scorecards

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116-112 Mayweather.. he showed he was the superior boxer, and was clearly the more intelligent guy in the ring.

Manny may have been hurt, but nothing I saw tells me he'd be able to do much better, it's the styles. Floyd is too sound defensively, and doesn't exchange often. He would win again. But it would be a lackluster fight again too. Marquez victory over Pacquiao is the one people will remember, and rightfully so.
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Ricky_ wrote:115-113 Pacquaio.

Felt a bit similar to Pac-Bradley only Floyd was on his bike much worse than Bradley was. was impressed with Floyd in 11 & 12, it was his only fluid rounds in terms of letting a couple of shots go, i think he felt Manny had tired a bit by that point. 1-10 i begrudge giving Floyd anything, offensively he was incredibly poor and landed nothing other than some powder-puff jabs serving only to disrupt Pac's vision.
umm, Floyd's straight rights? landing pretty much at will through most of the fight. you didn't see those I assume?
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CrazyHorse wrote: I scored the fight on a napkin but lost it somewhere lol.:TU:
Haha same,
I had it 6-6 14-114.
I had a feeling Floyd would win wide on the cards though, he seems to get heaps of credit for just landing pawing jabs, while pacquiao would throw combos, he might only land 1 or 2, but it looked nicer than the single jab.
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117-112 FMJ
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Very close fight. I had one point advantage for Pacquiao.
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Mensa07 wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:115-113 Pacquaio.

Felt a bit similar to Pac-Bradley only Floyd was on his bike much worse than Bradley was. was impressed with Floyd in 11 & 12, it was his only fluid rounds in terms of letting a couple of shots go, i think he felt Manny had tired a bit by that point. 1-10 i begrudge giving Floyd anything, offensively he was incredibly poor and landed nothing other than some powder-puff jabs serving only to disrupt Pac's vision.
umm, Floyd's straight rights? landing pretty much at will through most of the fight. you didn't see those I assume?

Straight rights :lol: if you want to see someone land a punch on Pacquaio check out 4 Marquez fights. Floyd was touching Pac with the foam padding of his glove, he didn't even commit enough with his punch for the knuckle to connect. Floyd won an amateur bout.
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I saw Pacquiaos legs buckle on 3 occassions in that fight.. can't remember what rounds they were, but one was by a lead check hook, once by a jab, right hook combination and another by a very stiff jab that Pacquiao walked right into. The only difference is Floyd didn't jump all over Pacquiao, but anyone who says that Floyd never hurt Pacquiao are delusional. I saw Pacquiao get hit hard and retreat like he got hit hard on several occasions. Some people just don't want to admit what really happened in that fight, Floyd whooped Pacquiaos ass, plain and simple lol.
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NateJR wrote:I saw Pacquiaos legs buckle on 3 occassions in that fight..

:lol:


Pacquiao's the asian looking one bro.
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Ricky_ wrote:
Mensa07 wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:115-113 Pacquaio.

Felt a bit similar to Pac-Bradley only Floyd was on his bike much worse than Bradley was. was impressed with Floyd in 11 & 12, it was his only fluid rounds in terms of letting a couple of shots go, i think he felt Manny had tired a bit by that point. 1-10 i begrudge giving Floyd anything, offensively he was incredibly poor and landed nothing other than some powder-puff jabs serving only to disrupt Pac's vision.
umm, Floyd's straight rights? landing pretty much at will through most of the fight. you didn't see those I assume?

Straight rights :lol: if you want to see someone land a punch on Pacquaio check out 4 Marquez fights. Floyd was touching Pac with the foam padding of his glove, he didn't even commit enough with his punch for the knuckle to connect. Floyd won an amateur bout.
drivel. If that were true it doesn't speak much for Pac's resistance, getting shook off the 'foam padding' of Floyd's glove! :OhYes:
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Mensa07 wrote: drivel. If that were true it doesn't speak much for Pac's resistance, getting shook off the 'foam padding' of Floyd's glove! :OhYes:

Shook.... :lol:
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117-111 the last time I watched.

116-112 on Saturday night.
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1-10 i begrudge giving Floyd anything, offensively he was incredibly poor and landed nothing other than some powder-puff jabs serving only to disrupt Pac's vision.
:OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes:
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After 3 days drinking and watching it in the busiest bar in Iceland (full of Pacquiao fans cheering every miss like a knockout punch) I had it 116-113 Mayweather but need to watch it again.

My memory is a bit hazy but think I had:

Floyd - 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12
Pac - 3, 4, 6, 11
Draw - 10
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118-110 Mayweather
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On Saturday May 2nd, I had it 116-112, Mayweather

Today i watched again and decided to watch it muted. Also, instead of just giving rounds - i explained why the second time around.

Today May 5th :
Round 1 - Floyd - not much action, but Floyd dictated pace and landed cleaner shots
Round 2 - Manny - close round, Manny landed solid shots on Floyd, Floyd was kept on the defensive - not by choice, also too many clinches by Floyd
Round 3 - Floyd - another close round, better shots landed by Floyd, ring generalship great by Floyd
Round 4 - Manny - great round by Manny, his best punches of the night came in this round in my opinion, aggressor of the round and solid combinations
Round 5 - Floyd - Floyd controlled the distance with the jab and dictated the pace the entire round
Round 6 - Manny - Manny had several great flurries, Manny was the aggressor of the round and effectively made Floyd stay on the run
Round 7 - Floyd - similar to round 5 Floyd controlled distance, but did it this time with great lateral movement and counter punching
Round 8 - Floyd - controlled distance, landed more precise punches
Round 9 - Manny - came on strong to push Floyd back with solid aggression, Manny much busier, Floyd clinching too often again
Round 10 - Manny - Manny is the aggressor again with several flurries, Mayweather has to resort to retreating and clinching
Round 11 - Floyd - Floyd controlled this round from beginning to end, great power punches, counters and jabs
Round 12 - Floyd - Floyd landed the cleaner shots, incredibly boring and ineffective round for both fighters - most likely due to fatigue.

115-113, Floyd "Money" Mayweather

I do believe Floyd should have been deducted a point for excessive clinching. But, even with this, Mayweather still wins - what I thought, was a closer fight than most.

Also, I tend to agree with the idea that the announcers portray Mayweather's actions as "more effective" than his opponents at times, although they may not be at that particular time.

Mayweather won in a true boxing match, not at all a slugfest like some were hoping for, but as a fan of the sport and as a fan of skill, I thoroughly enjoyed it outside of Floyd's repeated clinching. :TU:
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chapelhill41 wrote:On Saturday May 2nd, I had it 116-112, Mayweather

Today i watched again and decided to watch it muted. Also, instead of just giving rounds - i explained why the second time around.

Today May 5th :
Round 1 - Floyd - not much action, but Floyd dictated pace and landed cleaner shots
Round 2 - Manny - close round, Manny landed solid shots on Floyd, Floyd was kept on the defensive - not by choice, also too many clinches by Floyd
Round 3 - Floyd - another close round, better shots landed by Floyd, ring generalship great by Floyd
Round 4 - Manny - great round by Manny, his best punches of the night came in this round in my opinion, aggressor of the round and solid combinations
Round 5 - Floyd - Floyd controlled the distance with the jab and dictated the pace the entire round
Round 6 - Manny - Manny had several great flurries, Manny was the aggressor of the round and effectively made Floyd stay on the run
Round 7 - Floyd - similar to round 5 Floyd controlled distance, but did it this time with great lateral movement and counter punching
Round 8 - Floyd - controlled distance, landed more precise punches
Round 9 - Manny - came on strong to push Floyd back with solid aggression, Manny much busier, Floyd clinching too often again
Round 10 - Manny - Manny is the aggressor again with several flurries, Mayweather has to resort to retreating and clinching
Round 11 - Floyd - Floyd controlled this round from beginning to end, great power punches, counters and jabs
Round 12 - Floyd - Floyd landed the cleaner shots, incredibly boring and ineffective round for both fighters - most likely due to fatigue.

115-113, Floyd "Money" Mayweather

I do believe Floyd should have been deducted a point for excessive clinching. But, even with this, Mayweather still wins - what I thought, was a closer fight than most.

Also, I tend to agree with the idea that the announcers portray Mayweather's actions as "more effective" than his opponents at times, although they may not be at that particular time.

Mayweather won in a true boxing match, not at all a slugfest like some were hoping for, but as a fan of the sport and as a fan of skill, I thoroughly enjoyed it outside of Floyd's repeated clinching. :TU:

Nice post, would be cool if judges explained their 10-9's, i guess then we could all laugh at what justification they might hvae for scoring rounds 9 & 10 for Floyd, Pac won them as clearly as Floyd won 11 & 12.

I had pretty much the same as above with 3 & 5 going to Pac, for 115-113 Pacquiao.
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116-112 Mayweather
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No doubt it was a close fight, Snr body language, Snr said at one stage your giving this fight away, Floyd wouldn't even look at him, Snr calling him to fight wouldn't normally be said unless he thought it was close, he always believes in don't take unneccasary risks but spured him to fight
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117-111 Mayweather

I just didn't see Manny doing anything that could be considered remotely effective outside of a few solid counters when Floyd occasionally reached. But, who cares, the main thing I took away from the fight is that is the worst I have ever seen EITHER of them look.

I spent years laughing at people who spun these theories that Floyd was scared to fight Manny.....actually laughing at the idea. And, I still think it's preposterous, but it sure looked like he fought scared. But you can't give a fight to a guy just cause he WANTS to fight, he has to get something done in the ring and Floyd did more in a putrid fight.

One last thing, people act like "running" is impossible to beat, but why? There have been guys who were good at trapping guys who were trying to run, perhaps that is simply one skill that Pacquiao doesn't bring to the table...
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jas80s wrote:117-111 Mayweather

I just didn't see Manny doing anything that could be considered remotely effective outside of a few solid counters when Floyd occasionally reached. But, who cares, the main thing I took away from the fight is that is the worst I have ever seen EITHER of them look.

I spent years laughing at people who spun these theories that Floyd was scared to fight Manny.....actually laughing at the idea. And, I still think it's preposterous, but it sure looked like he fought scared. But you can't give a fight to a guy just cause he WANTS to fight, he has to get something done in the ring and Floyd did more in a putrid fight.

One last thing, people act like "running" is impossible to beat, but why? There have been guys who were good at trapping guys who were trying to run, perhaps that is simply one skill that Pacquiao doesn't bring to the table...
Floyd was in punching range for the majority of the fight.. I guess Pacquiao was scared to throw punches too considering he only threw a 1/4 of the punches he normally does.

I didn't see Floyd fighting scared or running, I saw him keeping the fight at range with his jab and Pacquiao reluctant to rush in due to getting countered.

I also think it was each fighters style that made the fight play out the way it did and both guys being good enough neither guy could really sustain any type of consistent offense. But you got the part about Floyd clearly winning right.. I also didn't think it was that terrible of a fight, but I've already enjoyed watching technical fights like that and for technical fight there was a lot happening.
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NateJR wrote:
jas80s wrote:117-111 Mayweather

I just didn't see Manny doing anything that could be considered remotely effective outside of a few solid counters when Floyd occasionally reached. But, who cares, the main thing I took away from the fight is that is the worst I have ever seen EITHER of them look.

I spent years laughing at people who spun these theories that Floyd was scared to fight Manny.....actually laughing at the idea. And, I still think it's preposterous, but it sure looked like he fought scared. But you can't give a fight to a guy just cause he WANTS to fight, he has to get something done in the ring and Floyd did more in a putrid fight.

One last thing, people act like "running" is impossible to beat, but why? There have been guys who were good at trapping guys who were trying to run, perhaps that is simply one skill that Pacquiao doesn't bring to the table...
Floyd was in punching range for the majority of the fight.. I guess Pacquiao was scared to throw punches too considering he only threw a 1/4 of the punches he normally does.

I didn't see Floyd fighting scared or running, I saw him keeping the fight at range with his jab and Pacquiao reluctant to rush in due to getting countered.

I also think it was each fighters style that made the fight play out the way it did and both guys being good enough neither guy could really sustain any type of consistent offense. But you got the part about Floyd clearly winning right.. I also didn't think it was that terrible of a fight, but I've already enjoyed watching technical fights like that and for technical fight there was a lot happening.
I don't think Floyd was running either, I was just posing the question about running in general....people seem to hold this thought that if a guy tries to run that there is absolutely nothing another fighter can do about it when there have been guys throughout history that routinely beat up and often finished guys who were trying desperately to get away from them...

I will however stand behind my statement that Floyd seemed awfully careful in this fight. Over 12 rounds, I don't recall a combination. He doesn't have to stand in there and swing for the fences, but I am with those fans that were not impressed with the performance. He won, but he didn't show me much. If he was so masterful then one might think at some point he might have been able to put a few punches together and/or start to dominate some rounds. The fact that that didn't happen might seem to suggest that the assertion that he put on a brilliant display is not accurate.

In the end, I think only his most ardent supporters were truly impressed by his performance. I firmly believe that the vast majority of fans with no particular rooting interest were not impressed with either fighter, and that obviously includes Floyd. But, that is certainly just my opinion.
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jas80s wrote:
NateJR wrote:
jas80s wrote:117-111 Mayweather

I just didn't see Manny doing anything that could be considered remotely effective outside of a few solid counters when Floyd occasionally reached. But, who cares, the main thing I took away from the fight is that is the worst I have ever seen EITHER of them look.

I spent years laughing at people who spun these theories that Floyd was scared to fight Manny.....actually laughing at the idea. And, I still think it's preposterous, but it sure looked like he fought scared. But you can't give a fight to a guy just cause he WANTS to fight, he has to get something done in the ring and Floyd did more in a putrid fight.

One last thing, people act like "running" is impossible to beat, but why? There have been guys who were good at trapping guys who were trying to run, perhaps that is simply one skill that Pacquiao doesn't bring to the table...
Floyd was in punching range for the majority of the fight.. I guess Pacquiao was scared to throw punches too considering he only threw a 1/4 of the punches he normally does.

I didn't see Floyd fighting scared or running, I saw him keeping the fight at range with his jab and Pacquiao reluctant to rush in due to getting countered.

I also think it was each fighters style that made the fight play out the way it did and both guys being good enough neither guy could really sustain any type of consistent offense. But you got the part about Floyd clearly winning right.. I also didn't think it was that terrible of a fight, but I've already enjoyed watching technical fights like that and for technical fight there was a lot happening.
I don't think Floyd was running either, I was just posing the question about running in general....people seem to hold this thought that if a guy tries to run that there is absolutely nothing another fighter can do about it when there have been guys throughout history that routinely beat up and often finished guys who were trying desperately to get away from them...

I will however stand behind my statement that Floyd seemed awfully careful in this fight. Over 12 rounds, I don't recall a combination. He doesn't have to stand in there and swing for the fences, but I am with those fans that were not impressed with the performance. He won, but he didn't show me much. If he was so masterful then one might think at some point he might have been able to put a few punches together and/or start to dominate some rounds. The fact that that didn't happen might seem to suggest that the assertion that he put on a brilliant display is not accurate.

In the end, I think only his most ardent supporters were truly impressed by his performance. I firmly believe that the vast majority of fans with no particular rooting interest were not impressed with either fighter, and that obviously includes Floyd. But, that is certainly just my opinion.
Floyd fought like he always does and it's not like Pacquiao was creating a whole lot of opportunities for Floyd either, Pacquiao seemed to be content with standing just outside of his own range for almost the entire fight.
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Floyd fought like he always does and it's not like Pacquiao was creating a whole lot of opportunities for Floyd either, Pacquiao seemed to be content with standing just outside of his own range for almost the entire fight.[/quote]

I agree with that 100 percent, when I said I've seen Floyd look better it was also against opponents who were bringing more effort and taking more chances as well.
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According to what I have read I can throw out my opinion of the bout (it never reached the level of being a fight). It seems like those who scored the bout for Pac are a severe minority. I know the feeling. I still believe that Bradley won the first fight close.

The problem is that information was withheld from the public that cost individuals significant capital. I had not been paying attention to the buildup much. When I saw the final presser I felt that there was too great of a chance of the event being choreographed. There was simply too little edge.

It is possible that everything coming out of Pac's camp is accurate. If it is, FMJ new about the injury and the fight is a farce.
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Ricky_ wrote:
chapelhill41 wrote:On Saturday May 2nd, I had it 116-112, Mayweather

Today i watched again and decided to watch it muted. Also, instead of just giving rounds - i explained why the second time around.

Today May 5th :
Round 1 - Floyd - not much action, but Floyd dictated pace and landed cleaner shots
Round 2 - Manny - close round, Manny landed solid shots on Floyd, Floyd was kept on the defensive - not by choice, also too many clinches by Floyd
Round 3 - Floyd - another close round, better shots landed by Floyd, ring generalship great by Floyd
Round 4 - Manny - great round by Manny, his best punches of the night came in this round in my opinion, aggressor of the round and solid combinations
Round 5 - Floyd - Floyd controlled the distance with the jab and dictated the pace the entire round
Round 6 - Manny - Manny had several great flurries, Manny was the aggressor of the round and effectively made Floyd stay on the run
Round 7 - Floyd - similar to round 5 Floyd controlled distance, but did it this time with great lateral movement and counter punching
Round 8 - Floyd - controlled distance, landed more precise punches
Round 9 - Manny - came on strong to push Floyd back with solid aggression, Manny much busier, Floyd clinching too often again
Round 10 - Manny - Manny is the aggressor again with several flurries, Mayweather has to resort to retreating and clinching
Round 11 - Floyd - Floyd controlled this round from beginning to end, great power punches, counters and jabs
Round 12 - Floyd - Floyd landed the cleaner shots, incredibly boring and ineffective round for both fighters - most likely due to fatigue.

115-113, Floyd "Money" Mayweather

I do believe Floyd should have been deducted a point for excessive clinching. But, even with this, Mayweather still wins - what I thought, was a closer fight than most.

Also, I tend to agree with the idea that the announcers portray Mayweather's actions as "more effective" than his opponents at times, although they may not be at that particular time.

Mayweather won in a true boxing match, not at all a slugfest like some were hoping for, but as a fan of the sport and as a fan of skill, I thoroughly enjoyed it outside of Floyd's repeated clinching. :TU:

Nice post, would be cool if judges explained their 10-9's, i guess then we could all laugh at what justification they might hvae for scoring rounds 9 & 10 for Floyd, Pac won them as clearly as Floyd won 11 & 12.

I had pretty much the same as above with 3 & 5 going to Pac, for 115-113 Pacquiao.
This is my gripe, I like floyds fighting style, moat of the time anyways, I've never gotten into the whole "running" thing, until this fight.
This was no master class, like some say. It was close.
Floyd v corrales, Mosley and Canelo, now they were master classes, and to a lesser extent hatton too. But Floyd at times looked genuinely afraid to engage a guy he had pretty much every advantage over, and spent most of the time throwing nothing jabs. He did land a dew nice lead rights, but not as many as I recall him usually throwing. And he generally just tied up too much.
I think some fans and judges do get caught up in floyds style, and are reluctant too five rounds to his opponent, even when it sometimes appears his opponent is doing better work, Floyd lands a jab or two and everyone gets a hard on.
What bothered me most is some friends of mine blasted Lara for fighting the way he did against Alvarez and then went on about floyds "master class" against Manny
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