Badhusker wrote:People are always pissed when they lose money, and excuses like Pac's are an avenue to get some back.
If Floyd had mris done he probably has 2 torn cuffs. He has pains too but more mental toughness I guess. Pain isn't a factor when you win.
Nothing but excuse after excuse after excuse.
When Manny was interviewed by Kellerman, he said he couldn't hit Floyd because he wouldn't stand still, then it was my shoulder hurt, then I heard something about the wrapping of the hands, then I heard something about Packy only weighing 143 before the weigh-in.
I mean, how much more sore grapes do these people have? The have absolutely zero shame in showing how BUTTHURT they are, I'm really starting to feel sorry for them......................NOT!!
Floyd claimed he had injuries as well.
I have seen the fight several times now.
No indication whatsoever that Manny was in any discomfort.
The other thing that makes me say "hmmmn" is the revelation that it is an old injury- 2008 or 2009 depending on who you believe.
So Manny has fought at least 9-11 times prior with this injury and not one word about it.
Badhusker wrote:People are always pissed when they lose money, and excuses like Pac's are an avenue to get some back.
If Floyd had mris done he probably has 2 torn cuffs. He has pains too but more mental toughness I guess. Pain isn't a factor when you win.
Nothing but excuse after excuse after excuse.
When Manny was interviewed by Kellerman, he said he couldn't hit Floyd because he wouldn't stand still, then it was my shoulder hurt, then I heard something about the wrapping of the hands, then I heard something about Packy only weighing 143 before the weigh-in.
I mean, how much more sore grapes do these people have? The have absolutely zero shame in showing how BUTTHURT they are, I'm really starting to feel sorry for them......................NOT!!
Floyd claimed he had injuries as well.
I have seen the fight several times now.
No indication whatsoever that Manny was in any discomfort.
The other thing that makes me say "hmmmn" is the revelation that it is an old injury- 2008 or 2009 depending on who you believe.
So Manny has fought at least 9-11 times prior with this injury and not one word about it.
No idea if they're telling the truth or not, but showing indicators of discomfort are not always the most accurate.
Not everyone shows pain even if in great discomfort.
But common sense says we would have seen at least some sign that he wasn't himself.
No one, absolutely no one, thought there was any issue with Manny physically until he mentioned the shoulder.
Well the sign was he sucked pretty bad and didn't throw many punches. I believe Mayweather is THAT good that he made Pac look like that...but I guess it is possible that it may have been an injury. Either way, I don't care.
Not everyone shows pain even if in great discomfort.
But common sense says we would have seen at least some sign that he wasn't himself.
No one, absolutely no one, thought there was any issue with Manny physically until he mentioned the shoulder.
Well the sign was he sucked pretty bad and didn't throw many punches. I believe Mayweather is THAT good that he made Pac look like that...but I guess it is possible that it may have been an injury. Either way, I don't care.
193 jabs alone with the right hand. Doesn't even account for the many powershots thrown.
Again, NOBODY. thought anything was PHYSICALLY wrong until Pac said so.
And I think his pride was hurt much more than any shoulder.
crusader wrote:What if a fighter develops depression before a fight, it hampers their preparation, and they don't inform anyone of that until later? Sue them too since it could've impacted the outcome? What if losing a close relative has the same impact on another fighter and this is only discovered by bettors after the bout? How about a pre-fight loss of motivation? How about acting much more confident in the public build-up to a fight than they really were? Are all these instances of misrepresentation that hurt certain bettors?
Since a major portion of betting is over/under, should a fighter also be sued if they didn't beat their opponent as quickly as expected and they waited until after the fight to reveal an injury that could help explain why they didn't win earlier? Related to that, how about if a fighter who typically stops their opponents early decides ahead of time that they're going to try to get rounds in, but only admit this post-fight when bettors who expected them to be more aggressive have lost out?
And how far back should the legal action go? Should fighters who haven't competed for 30 years be sued if they didn't disclose this type of info until after a fight? Would a surge in this type of litigation help the sport?
This is a physical injury that Pac immediately utilized as an excuse post fight. This was a super fight with hundreds of millions spent to view it as well as bet on the outcome. Team Pac also claims that FMJ knew about it. If that is true, the fight was simply a farce.
Notice how Senior kept questioning FMJ's lack of activity? Notice how FMJ, when asked when he felt in control of the fight, answers, "from the beginning, first round?"
It is possible, given Team Pac's claims, that FMJ knew that Pac was injured, checked him in the 1st round and decided to stay safe while letting it remain competitive.
The final presser, weighin, glove tapping every round, dry humping prior to 12, and insertion of controversy at the post fight presser all point to a choreographed farce designed to lead to an eventual rematch.
It cost gamblers $$$ and denied ppv buyers the info they needed to make an educated decision. None of which would matter if they were not now attempting to rob people of their hard earned dough a second time by using the same information to rationalize the eventual rematch.
Sue the socks off of the whole production!! Make them admit that this was akin to a professional wrestling event, only less entertaining.
The bit about gamblers being shafted due to misrepresentation applies to all the instances I mentioned too, so why not sue in all those cases?
In my view if the plaintiffs are successful a precedent will be set that leads to a surge in litigation that doesn't help the sport.
