Cotto vs geale

[Hounddawg]

What has Geale done to deserve a shot at Cotto? Quit against Golovkin? Beat his sparring partner Fletcher
If this fight does indeed happen it is a disgrace and an easy KO win for Cotto IMO.

Geale won 2 world titles prior to that and if he manages to beat Cotto that will make 3

Flogging a dead horse, springs to mind here!

Don't come here enough anymore to here some great takes on the fight game, as it's riddled with derogatory comments towards true champions/ fighters, and clearly only a few of you know who a real fighter is these days.

It's a massive achievement, so rare I once asked a naysayer of this achievement to find me a fighter from anywhere in the world over the last 30 years who has done it twice, and quite simply he couldn't, in fact I got nothing but, ( I'm cornered, so I will just game change the conversation and continue on with my initial statement)

The world knows what he done, it will be remembered, he just needs another solid win, to solidify his place.

[Francis75]

Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing

REALLY ? That many Kel.

Out of the 2 of you, who sucks who's D"#k?

Never seen 2 guys follow each other around, back slapping each other, after always creating an angry mob.

Same person perhaps, on different IP address's, or just really, "really" enjoy each others company?

Soliman has 7 loss's less then Sugar Ray.....No, please don't retort with that they're not in the same league, it's obvious the win/loss/draw section of a fighters profile influences your decision on who can and can't fight.

Are we in another forum, is this Boxrec or ESB?

What on earth are you going on about mate ?

[Kelandbeave]

Is that the bloke with a dozen losses to his name? Amazing

REALLY ? That many Kel.

Out of the 2 of you, who sucks who's D"#k?

Never seen 2 guys follow each other around, back slapping each other, after always creating an angry mob.

Same person perhaps, on different IP address's, or just really, "really" enjoy each others company?

Soliman has 7 loss's less then Sugar Ray.....No, please don't retort with that they're not in the same league, it's obvious the win/loss/draw section of a fighters profile influences your decision on who can and can't fight.

Are we in another forum, is this Boxrec or ESB?

Hey Hounddawg, did you just put Soliman and Ray Robinson in the same sentence??

Not the same Sugar Ray that has almost 180 wins

[Like a Boss]

What has Geale done to deserve a shot at Cotto? Quit against Golovkin? Beat his sparring partner Fletcher
If this fight does indeed happen it is a disgrace and an easy KO win for Cotto IMO.

Geale won 2 world titles prior to that and if he manages to beat Cotto that will make 3

Flogging a dead horse, springs to mind here!

Don't come here enough anymore to here some great takes on the fight game, as it's riddled with derogatory comments towards true champions/ fighters, and clearly only a few of you know who a real fighter is these days.

It's a massive achievement, so rare I once asked a naysayer of this achievement to find me a fighter from anywhere in the world over the last 30 years who has done it twice, and quite simply he couldn't, in fact I got nothing but, ( I'm cornered, so I will just game change the conversation and continue on with my initial statement)

The world knows what he done, it will be remembered, he just needs another solid win, to solidify his place.

Massive achievement. Say no more.

[Francis75]

Hey Hounddawg, did you just put Soliman and Ray Robinson in the same sentence??

Not the same Sugar Ray that has almost 180 wins

Almost 180 wins Kel. Gee that many.

[Like a Boss]

Could we be looking at another Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Andrzej Fonfara on June 6th?

Just like Chavez Jr, Miguel Cotto hasn't been exactly busy lately. When he faces off with Daniel Geale it will have been a year since he set foot in the ring, and since Cotto lost to Austin Trout in late 2012, has had just 2 fights.

Chavez, lost by a wide decision to Sergio Martinez in 2012, and then had only 2 fights prior to fighting Fonfara.

Both Cotto and Chavez are competing now in higher weight divisions. Cotto's opponent, Geale, has, like Fonfara, been particularly active over the past few years and faced some of the big names in his division.

When Geale meets Cotto it will be his 7th fight since he beat Osumanu Adama in March 2012, and included amongst those opponents are Anthony Golovkin, Sturm and Mundine,

We saw what happened to Chavez Jr. Could Cotto be headed down the same path?

[Like a Boss]

Could we be looking at another Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs Andrzej Fonfara on June 6th?

Just like Chavez Jr, Miguel Cotto hasn't been exactly busy lately. When he faces off with Daniel Geale it will have been a year since he set foot in the ring, and since he lost to Austin Trout in late 2012, he has had just 2 fights.

Chavez, lost by a wide decision to Sergio Martinez in 2012, and then had only 2 fights prior to fighting Fonfara.

Both Cotto and Chavez are competing now in higher weight divisions. Cotto's opponent, Geale, has, like Fonfara, been particularly active over the past few years and faced some of the big names in his division.

When Geale meets Cotto it will be his 7th fight since he beat Osumanu Adama in March 2012, and included amongst those opponents are Golovkin, Sturm and Mundine,

We saw what happened to Chavez Jr. Could Cotto be headed down the same path?

[Like a Boss]

"Training camp has started off on the right track. I'm super focused on Miguel Cotto and we have a nice game plan we are working on. My countrymen have shown a tremendous amount of support since I came back from the press conference. I'm getting some good work with some mates here at home and my body feels good. I'll be leaving to start training in the USA shortly and it's something I'm looking forward to. Cotto is a great champion, but I'm coming to win and bring that belt home to Australia." - Daniel Geale May 7th.

[Kelandbeave]

Every boxer lies so i don't take notice of pre-fight interviews from anyone regardless if i like them or not...... PacMan said all systems go before his fight and look what happened there. Leapai said the same about his fight with Klit and then it turns out he was having sight problems.

Geale said exactly the same thing before his fight against GGG....... No problem but i just don't listen anymore, we will see the results in June.

[Like a Boss]

Every boxer lies so i don't take notice of pre-fight interviews from anyone regardless if i like them or not...... PacMan said all systems go before his fight and look what happened there. Leapai said the same about his fight with Klit and then it turns out he was having sight problems.

Geale said exactly the same thing before his fight against GGG....... No problem but i just don't listen anymore, we will see the results in June.

As you suggesting a poor preparation cost Geale the fight against GGG?

[Kelandbeave]

Every boxer lies so i don't take notice of pre-fight interviews from anyone regardless if i like them or not...... PacMan said all systems go before his fight and look what happened there. Leapai said the same about his fight with Klit and then it turns out he was having sight problems.

Geale said exactly the same thing before his fight against GGG....... No problem but i just don't listen anymore, we will see the results in June.

As you suggesting a poor preparation cost Geale the fight against GGG?

No i didn't say that, what I said is ALL fighters say the same thing...... Their prep was excellent and that they are fit as a fiddles blah blah

My point is these statements mean nothing because it's a throw away line to hype the fight.

BTW Geale could use PED's and look like King Kong but would still come up short against Golovkin D

[Like a Boss]

Every boxer lies so i don't take notice of pre-fight interviews from anyone regardless if i like them or not...... PacMan said all systems go before his fight and look what happened there. Leapai said the same about his fight with Klit and then it turns out he was having sight problems.

Geale said exactly the same thing before his fight against GGG....... No problem but i just don't listen anymore, we will see the results in June.

As you suggesting a poor preparation cost Geale the fight against GGG?

No i didn't say that, what I said is ALL fighters say the same thing...... Their prep was excellent and that they are fit as a fiddles blah blah

My point is these statements mean nothing because it's a throw away line to hype the fight.

BTW Geale could use PED's and look like King Kong but would still come up short against Golovkin D

Geale comments on how well his preparation is going for his upcoming fight against Cotto.

You reply with "Geale said exactly the same thing before his fight against GGG" and follow it with "Geale could use PED's and look like King Kong but would still come up short against Golovkin".

Your two comments contradict themselves. Daniel Geale has proven himself to be one of the most honest straight shooters in boxing. What is it you are trying to claim about Geale's comments regarding his preparation?

[Like a Boss]

A month out from the fight and Cotto is 165 lbs and Geale 158 lbs.

Geale only needing to drop another pound in a month should make weight easily. Consistent with his comments above that his preparation is going well.

[Kelandbeave]

A month out from the fight and Cotto is 165 lbs and Geale 158 lbs.

Geale only needing to drop another pound in a month should make weight easily. Consistent with his comments above that his preparation is going well.

Look pal, I don't want to argue the point but you are misrepresenting what I am trying to get across.
My point is that all boxers say the same thing about preparations going well leading up to a fight. Therefore the general public should take these statements with a grain of salt............... Gai Waterhouse says the same thing about her racehorses yet look what happened in the More Joyous affair...... Do you trust everything you read in the newspaper??
We are happy Geale says he is going well, but we really don't know the truth either way, nothing against Geale that's how life works pal!

[Like a Boss]

A month out from the fight and Cotto is 165 lbs and Geale 158 lbs.

Geale only needing to drop another pound in a month should make weight easily. Consistent with his comments above that his preparation is going well.

Look pal, I don't want to argue the point but you are misrepresenting what I am trying to get across.
My point is that all boxers say the same thing about preparations going well leading up to a fight. Therefore the general public should take these statements with a grain of salt............... Gai Waterhouse says the same thing about her racehorses yet look what happened in the More Joyous affair...... Do you trust everything you read in the newspaper??
We are happy Geale says he is going well, but we really don't know the truth either way, nothing against Geale that's how life works pal!

Geale is 158 pounds a month out from the fight and that certainly supports his claim that his training is going well. I believe him whether you choose to cast doubt or not.

[Kelandbeave]

He is not a big middleweight and probably should be fighting at 154lbs anyway ...... big deal he is 158 now

Again you are missing my point.

Who cares lets see what happens in June

[Like a Boss]

He is not a big middleweight and probably should be fighting at 154lbs anyway ...... big deal he is 158 now

Again you are missing my point.

Who cares lets see what happens in June

You are missing the point I made.

I posted Geale saying his preparation is going well, and that he is already down to 158 pounds clearly supports his claim. As we know Geale normally fights at the 160 pound limit.

For some reason you have since chosen to pursue a pointless argument against what I posted.

[Like a Boss]

If people seriously believe that Geale weigh's 158 lbs now a month before the fight then they are very naïve.

Fact of the matter is Daniel Geale does weight 158 pounds a month before the fight according to the WBC and the person being naïve here is you:

WBC middleweight Champion Miguel Cotto (39-4-0, 32 KOs) fights Daniel Geale (31-3, 16 KOs), on June 6 in Brooklyn, New York.

No problems, as Both breezed the 30 days weigh in ordered by the WBC, which has the main purpose of carefully monitoring the fighters' weight' as a health priorority.

The Champion (Cotto) was 164.8 lbs, while the title contender (Geale) was 158 lbs. The limit of the division is 160lib.

This will be the first title defense of the WBC belt that Cotto conquered last June, defeating Argentinian Sergio “Maravilla” Martínez, at Madison Square Garden in New York.

Cotto says he's delighted to again be fighting in New York, and he's fully aware of his rival´s quality, so he's absolutely determined to give his all!.

Geale replied he's really motivated for this fight, not only because he will face Cotto, but also because he wants to become the new WBC Champion.

http://fightnetwork.com/news/55940:cott ... -weigh-in/

[Hounddawg]

As the inspirational Kel stated earlier, I pay zero attention to what a fighter and his camp say before and after a fight. Take it with a grain of salt.

If people seriously believe that Geale weigh's 158 lbs now a month before the fight then they are very naive. If Geale seriously weigh's 158 now then why does he not fight at welter ? He could easily cut water weight IF he weighs 158 during his training camp. Weighing 158 now is complete BS.

With a lot of different fighters the excuses come out after the fight. Remember Danny Greeny after having fought his whole career to date at super middle complain that he was weight drained when Choc Mundine schooled him.

Umm, maybe you should research before shooting your mouth off.

Danny Greens weight drained excuse, has substance, as he already fought 8 times in 23 fights as a light heavy before facing Mundine.
He was a Light Heavy Olympian as well, which I do believe is 82KGs in 2000.
Just saying, it's always "half empty" mate! Always.

Que work IP address, and username KelandBeave to save the day, after another " What the hell are you talking about"

Here's a quote to start the day. " A positive anything is better than a negative nothing"

[Axl]

WBC 30 day weigh ins are compulsory, both fighters will be required to weigh in again 7 days prior to fight, again compulsory.
These rules have existed for WBC title fights for nearly 20 years.

[amwsnw]

Have a look at how Sturm is going now and call him shot.
Soliman gives anyone fits at middleweight and the top guns know it. Remember his fight with Winky Wright. Sams losses mean shit. What it means is you dont have to pad a record to reach the pinnacle, which he did. And the word hater has a meaning - if it fits I think it can be used

Great effort by Geale to be in shape. Cotto will be on target. As Daniel said it would appear they have had a great training camp and everything is going well....oh dont say that because everyone says it.

[Francis75]

Have a look at how Sturm is going now and call him shot.
Soliman gives anyone fits at middleweight and the top guns know it. Remember his fight with Winky Wright. Sams losses mean poo. What it means is you dont have to pad a record to reach the pinnacle, which he did. And the word hater has a meaning - if it fits I think it can be used

Great effort by Geale to be in shape. Cotto will be on target. As Daniel said it would appear they have had a great training camp and everything is going well....oh dont say that because everyone says it.

No he doesn't buddy.

[buster007]

amwsnw,

very well said.

this guy knows boxing.

[Like a Boss]

Have a look at how Sturm is going now and call him shot.
Soliman gives anyone fits at middleweight and the top guns know it. Remember his fight with Winky Wright. Sams losses mean poo. What it means is you dont have to pad a record to reach the pinnacle, which he did. And the word hater has a meaning - if it fits I think it can be used

Great effort by Geale to be in shape. Cotto will be on target. As Daniel said it would appear they have had a great training camp and everything is going well....oh dont say that because everyone says it.

Good post

[Like a Boss]