Who should be Mayweather's last opponent?

Mad Artist · Post by **Mad Artist** » 04 May 2015, 17:48

Discuss.

el_destrampado · Post by **el_destrampado** » 04 May 2015, 18:04

personally id like to see him fight matthysse, but that is never gonna happen.

Tanzio · Post by **Tanzio** » 04 May 2015, 20:23

fergusg wrote:Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez = It has recently been widely reported by the media that Golden Boy Promotions are preparing to file a lawsuit, with support from the WBO, against Al Haymon and the PBC for breaching the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act, for violating the Anti-Trust Act and for also breaking California’s Unfair Competition laws.

Also, the Mayweather-Alvarez bout only took place less than two years ago and Floyd dominated the stocky ginger-haired Mexican youngster with astonishing ease.

Therefore, in commercial terms, there’s not enough demand to see Floyd grant Canelo a rematch… and I highly doubt that Al Haymon would even consider lining Oscar’s pockets with money that will subsequently be used to fund Golden Boy's lawsuit filed against the PBC and himself! This means that this bout has zero chance of taking place!

Miguel Cotto = From what I recall, Roc Nation provided seemingly generous offers to Al Haymon fighters like Adrien Broner, Keith Thurman, Deontay Wilder and Peter Quillin, which have all been turned down… and all they wanted to do was to promote these men.

It seems that Al Haymon has no intention of assisting Roc Nations' entrance into the sport of boxing, unless he’s allowed to call the shots (especially after the Beyoncé fraudulent accusations debacle).

Another issue, is the fact that it appears that Cotto is affiliated with HBO and it seems that they have only rubber-stamped the Geale fight, with an expectation that he’ll commit to facing Canelo later on this year. And as we all should know by now, unless mega-bucks are involved, Haymon and Showtime don’t work with HBO.

In addition to the commercial issues, Mayweather has already faced Cotto and gained a comfortable decision that was almost certainly not considered controversial in nature.

Therefore, whilst it’s possible for Mayweather to face Cotto again, especially considering the fact that Miguel holds both the WBC and lineal 160lb titles coupled with his PPV popularity, these factors don’t outweigh the other hurdles that are seemingly unsurmountable in nature, which means that the chances of their rematch taking place are slim to none… and slim has just left the building.

Gennady Golovkin = GGG is physically too big and perhaps too young for Floyd. He is also not a marquee name, which means the risk versus return ratio calculates a figure that does not make any business sense whatsoever.

The other issue is the proverbial “road” that must be crossed in order to make this bout happen, because GGG is contractually-tied to HBO and there does not seem to be enough financial demand to warrant Leslie Moonves and Stephen Espinoza to once again open talks with Richard Plepler.

Simply put, Haymon & Showtime aren’t going to establish another partnership with HBO to promote and televise a Mayweather-Golovkin bout, because the pot of money at the end of the rainbow isn’t big enough.

In terms of the remaining fighters on this poll, both Danny Garcia and Amir Khan are “advised” by Al Haymon and aren’t tied to any TV networks. So they’re both serious contenders to face Floyd in September.

That being said, from a commercial perspective alone, coupled with the fact that he’s a fully-fledged welterweight on a good run of form, Khan is probably in a better position than Garcia to be selected as Mayweather’s next opponent… and if I were a betting man, I'd day that Amir will be facing Floyd on Mexican Independence Day weekend in September (assuming the Brit overcomes the moderate challenge posed by Chris Algieri in his next fight).

If Khan cannot make the September date, because Amir may need more than the eight weeks that are available between the end of Ramadan and the 12th September fight date in order to recover and train for the bout, then Keith Thurman may be in contention for Floyd’s next opponent.

However, ‘One Time’ may be deemed undeserving of the opportunity, because he’s relatively anonymous to mainstream fans and he only has one decent name on his resume (he took quite a beating in order to gain a lop-sided decision victory over Robert Guerrero).

Haymon may also prefer to protect the “zero” on Thurman’s record if he considers the talented 'One Time' as a potential marquee PPV-type name of the future. After all, Al is a business man and he has a responsibility and a vested interest to look after his investments.

Thurman losing to FMJ by decision, which is the likely outcome, would be worth the L just for the exposure. Also, he would likely take minimum damage in the fight.

I think that Kell Brook would be a great choice. He comes from the British Isles, where they are very loyal to their fighters v Former Colonists. If FMJ went to London to fight Brook, or the less deserving Khan, there is no venue that could hold the throngs who would want tickets. All of Europe would be enthralled.

Brook would be a very serious threat to FMJ at this point. Even Khan would not be a foregone conclusion, although I believe FMJ would stop him.

Brook or Thurman. It would be great for boxing. Even in losing, either would become a headliner.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 04 May 2015, 20:33

As much as I'd like to see the GGG match.... I think a rematch with Miguel Cotto, at a catchweight of 154 pounds... would be a great way to finish a career, considering Cotto is a MW champion these days. Considering their first contest was competitive, it would be interesting to see if Cotto would do any better at a more natural size and weight than he did the first time. It would be a "risk" because of the weight gain for Floyd, and it is familiar for the fans. However, I have a feeling the last match may be against Kahn.

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 05 May 2015, 04:32

Kahn, so he finally shuts up, and Floyd can end hic career with a KO

amwsnw · Post by **amwsnw** » 05 May 2015, 07:21

Geale if he gets through Cottto - yep one eyed Aussie I know !!

Wouldn't mind him going against Khan. Someone other than a rematch.

littlepug · Post by **littlepug** » 05 May 2015, 07:31

hopefully khan, and I would give him every chance of pulling it off

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 05 May 2015, 10:17

I'd love to see GGG at a catchweight, but I doubt very much it will happen.

tiny_acres · Post by **tiny_acres** » 05 May 2015, 10:19

I want to see Danny Garcia next.

man · Post by **man** » 05 May 2015, 10:21

khan.

IKSRTFO · Post by **IKSRTFO** » 05 May 2015, 10:29

Why isn't Thurman on that list?

Chepppaaa · Post by **Chepppaaa** » 05 May 2015, 11:16

no more floyd fights, no matter against who, its to boring

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 05 May 2015, 11:36

Tanzio wrote: I think that Kell Brook would be a great choice. He comes from the British Isles, where they are very loyal to their fighters v Former Colonists. If FMJ went to London to fight Brook, or the less deserving Khan, there is no venue that could hold the throngs who would want tickets. All of Europe would be enthralled.

Brook would be a very serious threat to FMJ at this point. Even Khan would not be a foregone conclusion, although I believe FMJ would stop him.

Brook or Thurman. It would be great for boxing. Even in losing, either would become a headliner.

I'm sure Floyd expressed interest in recent years in fighting in the UK at a stadium, didn't he say something after the Hatton fight that suggested he was jealous of all the love that Ricky got and wanting a piece of that.

A fight with Brook would be a stadium attraction for sure if he's still up for that. Plus he has the added satisfaction of adding another belt to the collection, although I'm not sure he's too bothered about that any more.

kimf · Post by **kimf** » 05 May 2015, 12:02

Floyd Mayweather Snr.
Jnr couldn't even look at his father in the corner and there is still alot of bad blood between them.
Let them lace up the gloves and sort out their differences in the ring.
This may be the only fight Jnr actually stands there and tries to fight/ko an opponent.

NateJR · Post by **NateJR** » 05 May 2015, 14:13

Danny Garcia... Take the easiest fight that will be the most lucrative just to piss everyone off and sail into the sunset.

fornicate the boxing fans, he won't get any credit regardless who he beats anyways.

If he beats Khan, they will say well Danny knocked Khan out. If he don't knock Khan out and beats him by decision people will try to discredit the win saying it wasn't impressive being he didn't knock Khan out.

If Floyd beats Thurman or Brooke, they'll claim both are too green and didn't have the experience.

If he beats Alvarez again, they'll just claim he was looking for a payday. Floyd didn't get any credit for beating him the first time.

If he beat Cotto, same thing as the Alvarez fight. He's beat him once before and convincingly and got little to no credit for it.

If he beats GGG, chances are it will be at a catchweight. Then everyone will claim Floyd is a coward for making GGG drain himself and that's why he won the fight. Just like they did against Canelo when Canelo said he's drop down to 150 to fight Floyd and then didn't give Floyd props for beating Canelo at 152. Even thought GGG said he could make 154, if GGG didn't win even at a 156 lb. catchweight you know damn well, even these people who want to see Floyd in with GGG more than anyone, it will be the first excuse they fall back on even after GGG and his nuthugger claim he's make 156 easily.

Honestly I could care less if Floyd fought some bum off the streets. He doesn't have anything left to prove and the more his haters are hating him and pissed when he retires, the better.

Mensa07 · Post by **Mensa07** » 06 May 2015, 04:55

NateJR wrote:Danny Garcia... Take the easiest fight that will be the most lucrative just to piss everyone off and sail into the sunset.

eff the boxing fans, he won't get any credit regardless who he beats anyways.

If he beats Khan, they will say well Danny knocked Khan out. If he don't knock Khan out and beats him by decision people will try to discredit the win saying it wasn't impressive being he didn't knock Khan out.

If Floyd beats Thurman or Brooke, they'll claim both are too green and didn't have the experience.

If he beats Alvarez again, they'll just claim he was looking for a payday. Floyd didn't get any credit for beating him the first time.

If he beat Cotto, same thing as the Alvarez fight. He's beat him once before and convincingly and got little to no credit for it.

If he beats GGG, chances are it will be at a catchweight. Then everyone will claim Floyd is a coward for making GGG drain himself and that's why he won the fight. Just like they did against Canelo when Canelo said he's drop down to 150 to fight Floyd and then didn't give Floyd props for beating Canelo at 152. Even thought GGG said he could make 154, if GGG didn't win even at a 156 lb. catchweight you know damn well, even these people who want to see Floyd in with GGG more than anyone, it will be the first excuse they fall back on even after GGG and his nuthugger claim he's make 156 easily.

Honestly I could care less if Floyd fought some bum off the streets. He doesn't have anything left to prove and the more his haters are hating him and pissed when he retires, the better.

completely agree, I like the GGG fight but he wouldn't get any credit for winning as it would be at a catchweight. If he beat Wlad K they'd say 'OMG he picked the worst heavyweight champ of all time to beat he's such a p*ssy', or similar.

He should fight someone who presents zero challenge (not Pac again though) and retire rich and healthy. His stock will only go up once he's retired, and people start to realise that they won't be seeing his like again for many years.

Mensa07 · Post by **Mensa07** » 06 May 2015, 05:23

Fury & Wilder were still green when Floyd beat them therefore the W doesn't count for anything.

Wlad K was old, shot and had a weak chin so Floyd was 'obviously' going to cherry pick him and beat him on points. OMG PAcQUiAO (2009 version) would have KTFO Both Klitsko BroS in 1 ROUNd!!

hhaehre · Post by **hhaehre** » 06 May 2015, 07:17

fergusg wrote:
Mensa07 wrote:completely agree, I like the GGG fight but he wouldn't get any credit for winning as it would be at a catchweight. If he beat Wlad K they'd say 'OMG he picked the worst heavyweight champ of all time to beat he's such a p*ssy', or similar.
I honestly believe that the only way that Floyd Mayweather Jr. would be given credit for his next victory, would be if he competed in a WWE-type three-on-one tag team boxing match, whereby he is pitted against three opponents at the very same time… inside a steel cage!

Of course, these guys cannot be 147lb-ers, because his critics would accuse him of “cherry-picking” inferior opponents, so I suspect that the only way that he could silence his detractors would be if he engaged in a fight against Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Wladimir Klitschko at the very same time!

What do you reckon? :??

Poor poor Floyd, it's just not fair. Cue the world's smallest violin.

Joe Boxer · Post by **Joe Boxer** » 06 May 2015, 07:45

I'd like his last opponent to be Pacquaio, on May 2, 2015.

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 07 May 2015, 07:06

If Mayweather can fight smaller men like Pacquiao and JMM, why for once can't he fight a slightly bigger man in Golovkin?

GGG is only SLIGHTLY bigger than Floyd. He says he can make 154 without a problem. Floyd couldn't make the catchweight for the JMM fight.

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 07 May 2015, 12:21

fergusg wrote:Marquez weighed 148lbs against Mayweather for their fight, which was the same that Floyd weighed was when he fought Pacquiao.

Wrong. Floyd refused to do a same-day weigh-in.

Mayweather likely re-hydrates up to 165 or so. He looked MUCH bigger than Manny on Saturday.

Floyd hides his weight on fight day. He doesn't do same-day weigh-ins because he wants his silly fanboys to keep saying how small he is.

punchoutsb · Post by **punchoutsb** » 07 May 2015, 12:25

fergusg wrote:Floyd weighed 149lbs against Pacquiao

Floyd didn't participate in the fight night weigh in...where are you getting this information?

punchoutsb · Post by **punchoutsb** » 07 May 2015, 12:37

fergusg wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:
fergusg wrote:Marquez weighed 148lbs against Mayweather for their fight, which was the same that Floyd weighed was when he fought Pacquiao.
Wrong. Floyd refused to do a same-day weigh-in.

Mayweather likely re-hydrates up to 165 or so. He looked MUCH bigger than Manny on Saturday.

Floyd hides his weight on fight day. He doesn't do same-day weigh-ins because he wants his silly fanboys to keep saying how small he is.
This isn't correct. When I watch fights, the weights are usually announced by the commentators, such as the Maidana fight, where he weighed 148lbs. Floyd only weighed 150.5lbs for the 30-day weigh-in for the Pacquiao bout and according to him (who he claims was weighed by the "commission" [NSAC]), he weighed 149lbs on fight night.

That's really no evidence at all. Floyd is obviously taller, which makes body weight harder to approximate. But I don't think its absurd to say Floyd looked like the bigger man.

Freedom2013 · Post by **Freedom2013** » 07 May 2015, 12:40

fergusg wrote:This isn't correct. When I watch fights, the weights are usually announced by the commentators, such as the Maidana fight, where he weighed 148lbs. Floyd only weighed 150.5lbs for the 30-day weigh-in for the Pacquiao bout and according to him (who he claims was weighed by the "commission" [NSAC]), he weighed 149lbs on fight night.

Mayweather doesn't do same day weigh-ins. This was mentioned by Jim Lampley on HBO before the Mayweather-Pacquaio fight.

He can claim to weigh anything he wants, and you imagine he weighs 149 if you want, but he actually probably re-hydrates up to 165, which is WHY he doesn't do same-day weigh-ins. He wants to keep people believing the myth that he's small.

punchoutsb · Post by **punchoutsb** » 07 May 2015, 12:41

I'd need to see it from someone other than the fighter. Just like I doubted Manny's injury until he had surgery.

It's not that hard to see both these guys are massive BS'ers. That's how you make money in this day and age.