Who can beat Floyd?

[VG_Addict]

Now who has the best chance of beating Floyd?

[forcefraser]

Kovalev

[treyg]

Keith Thurman good motor; fast hands; legit power!, Triple G not sure he could get to 154 (far fetch); Amir Khan hand speed; power; chin would let him down against Floyd. Terence Crawford; fast hands; great chin, good power may be a little to small. Lucas Matthysse; decent speed; great power; would carry it to welter weight. Floyd would box the crap out of him.

[Bobbyptsd]

I've said it before, and I still think Bradley could trouble him quite a bit. I wouldn't bet that he'd beat him, but it would certainly be competitive in my view.

Volume punchers/pressure fighters, as always, can trouble him. Porter could be interesting.

I would pick Golovkin to beat him at this point, even at 154. He is a frightening mix of (relative) youth, power, accuracy and volume.

[diddy]

Paul Williams circa 2009

[tommo100]

don`t think Floyd would go near triple g,even if triple g could make the weight,he doesn't need the threat of losing his legacy at this time of his career,other than golovkin no one is anywhere near capable of beating him at the moment,if khan had a brain he`d stand a chance,but imo he`d run out of ideas after 4 rounds

[tiny_acres]

At 147? Father time.

[koolkc107]

I don't think any one 147 lbs or less is going to pose Floyd any threat for another year or year and a half.

I think both Canelo at 154 and Cotto at 160 could have decent chances.

I think GGG at 160 has a very good chance, but I would bet that if he had to go down to 154, Mayweather would own him.

2 years from now, I think both Thurman and Crawford present major problems for Floyd at 147 or less.

[IKSRTFO]

Paul Williams circa 2009

So you're saying that a middleweight is capable of beating a welterweight?

Even after 2009, Williams fought comfortably at 154. His last two fights, he weighed in at 153 and was planning to fight Canelo.

[koolkc107]

Paul Williams circa 2009

After seeing what he did against Margarito, I don't think any elite guy at 147 or 140 wanted anything to do with Paul.

The first fight with Quintana may have changed minds briefly.

Then the rematch happened and folks started crapping themselves again thinking about PWill.

[koolkc107]

Paul Williams circa 2009

After seeing what he did against Margarito, I don't think any elite guy at 147 or 140 wanted anything to do with Paul.

The first fight with Quintana may have changed minds briefly.

Then the rematch happened and folks started crapping themselves again thinking about PWill.

He lost in 2008 & 2010. He was good but beatable.

The 2008 loss was his uninspired outing vs Quintana.

It was avenged, bigtime.

The 2010 loss was at middleweight, arguably 2 weight classes above his best weight and against a guy he had beat in the first meeting.

Nothing to be ashamed of and no indication at all of what would have happened had Shane or Cotto or Floyd or Pac given him a shot at 147.

[diddy]

Paul Williams circa 2009

So you're saying that a middleweight is capable of beating a welterweight?

Williams fought at 147 for most of his career. Said himself about 100 times he would fight Floyd at 147. Floyd has fought 154 lb fighters. Oscar. Canelo. WTF sport are you watching? This fight could've easily happened. Williams was ducked. Plain and simple. Not even the Margarito plaster could beat him. Margo was DESTROYING everyone with the plaster at the time.

[IKSRTFO]

Paul Williams circa 2009

After seeing what he did against Margarito, I don't think any elite guy at 147 or 140 wanted anything to do with Paul.

The first fight with Quintana may have changed minds briefly.

Then the rematch happened and folks started crapping themselves again thinking about PWill.

He lost in 2008 & 2010. He was good but beatable.

You don't necessarily have to be unbeatable to beat Floyd. Castillo was very beatable and should've gotten the nod over Floyd

[Chepppaaa]

today @ 154: lara & dihydrated ggg
today @ 147: a manny with 2 full function shoulders

ever @ 154: prime trinidad, prime hearns, prime williams
ever @ 147: prime mosley, prime leonard, prime pacquiao

but p4p he is hard to beat, because his best weights were around super feather- and super lightweight, there i see litle to none people who would beat him, certainly not prime chavez or prime duran. maybe prime pernell or prime gamboa.

[punchoutsb]

Bnovelist.

He's hungry, grew up poor, and has a real chip on his shoulder.

[Bobbyptsd]

today @ 154: lara & dihydrated ggg
today @ 147: a manny with 2 full function shoulders

ever @ 154: prime trinidad, prime hearns, prime williams
ever @ 147: prime mosley, prime leonard, prime pacquiao

but p4p he is hard to beat, because his best weights were around super feather- and super lightweight, there i see litle to none people who would beat him, certainly not prime chavez or prime duran. maybe prime pernell or prime gamboa.

If you think Lara is out boxing Floyd....

[tiny_acres]

today @ 154: lara & dihydrated ggg
today @ 147: a manny with 2 full function shoulders

ever @ 154: prime trinidad, prime hearns, prime williams
ever @ 147: prime mosley, prime leonard, prime pacquiao

but p4p he is hard to beat, because his best weights were around super feather- and super lightweight, there i see litle to none people who would beat him, certainly not prime chavez or prime duran. maybe prime pernell or prime gamboa.

If you think Lara is out boxing Floyd....

I gave up drinking 20 years ago. But reading Cheepaa and some of his
posts makes me want to pick up the bottle again.

[Bobbyptsd]

today @ 154: lara & dihydrated ggg
today @ 147: a manny with 2 full function shoulders

ever @ 154: prime trinidad, prime hearns, prime williams
ever @ 147: prime mosley, prime leonard, prime pacquiao

but p4p he is hard to beat, because his best weights were around super feather- and super lightweight, there i see litle to none people who would beat him, certainly not prime chavez or prime duran. maybe prime pernell or prime gamboa.

If you think Lara is out boxing Floyd....

I gave up drinking 20 years ago. But reading Cheepaa and some of his
posts makes me want to pick up the bottle again.

I know that feeling. I try to pretend he's like bnovelist and is a bot just generating random buzzwords in hopes of getting a response. But I just can't help myself and get hooked sometimes.

[Bobbyptsd]

Wasn't the question simply: "Who can beat Floyd?" ? In that context, mentioning Williams (in an admittedly hypothetical way) doesn't seem like a bad response. He was a volume puncher who had good speed, stamina and chin and the guts to take it to someone.

The amount of fights he had at 147 vs. 154 and beyond, or whether Mayweather ducked him or not don't seem really relevant to me. I think he's a guy who could have troubled Floyd. I don't know if he would have beaten him, but it's a reasonable mention I believe.

[Bobbyptsd]

Wasn't the question simply: "Who can beat Floyd?" ? In that context, mentioning Williams (in an admittedly hypothetical way) doesn't seem like a bad response. He was a volume puncher who had good speed, stamina and chin and the guts to take it to someone.

The amount of fights he had at 147 vs. 154 and beyond, or whether Mayweather ducked him or not don't seem really relevant to me. I think he's a guy who could have troubled Floyd. I don't know if he would have beaten him, but it's a reasonable mention I believe.

I wasn’t attacking diddy suggesting Paul Williams, but he was never on Floyd’s radar… and when The Punisher was considered an elite-level talent, he was competing two weight divisions above Floyd.

What I did attack, was diddy’s condescending response when he questioned whether I actually followed the sport and then he also subsequently claimed that Floyd ducked him.

So I decided to dismantle everything he said, simply because I could… even though it was a tad childish on my part .

Ahh no problem. I didn't see the whole discussion, just his initial mention of Williams and further down your response, so I didn't understand why you had responded that way.

[Badhusker]

For some reason I always thought PW didn't use his height and reach to his full advantage. He fought a lot smaller than he was, thus leaving himself open a lot more than he should have. I agree with those that say he at least appeared to be avoided by some, but wasn't the wrecking machine some thought either, as Martinez showed, and even Lara. I could see PW troubling Floyd for half the fight, in a Khan-type way, but would end up confused and come up short, like they all have. Don't get me wrong, I think PW was much better than Khan ever will be, but do think his style would make it a good fight for at least half of it.

[Ade L]

Big Show in a rematch!

[PsychoGamerTwo]

I am sure i can beat him, i've seen every fight of him, know him better than his father, but he knows nothing about me. I am athletic, fast, strong, smart, and unorthodox, but unfortunately i'll never hit the lottery.

[ThereByTheGrace]

the only person that can beat Floyd is himself. That should be obvious by now!

[TonyP]

Kieth Thurman can beat any welterweight He is a true welter weight that has no kryptonite ,he world class hand speed and devastating power in both hands, and is fleet afoot in either direction and has boxing IQ , He can fight in the pocket or box outside the pocket, He has no trouble with southpaws 5-0 Keith Thurman has Floored ALL but 1 professional his opponents , 5 by shots to the body leading to stoppages Kieth Thurman and Felix Trinidad are the MOST feared and ducked welter weights in the last 25 years of boxing

Floyd Mayweather Jr can not fight in the pocket with any consistency, Manny Pacquaio can only fight in the pocket both ducked Felix Trinidad who was in their era only Oscar De La Hoya had the courage to fight him but lost to Tito, just like they are allowed to cherry pick and duck the mandatory ( true WBA welter weight Keith Thurman champ ) Amir Khan can NEVER fight in the pocket in the welterweight class, and has no true welterweight resume to speak of . Kell Brook is a true welter weight but has not fought more than 1 world class ranked true welter weight