Birmingham and Texas discussion thread

[expe]

I am not getting at Burns performance, he is a gutsy brave fighter, but he was holding a lot and maybe if he stuck to boxing more he would've got a fairer crack at the whip. He has had a fair few home decisions in the past so its a case of evening these things up. He lost against Beltran and got away with it, no point in crying wolf if it goes the other way. It was a game effort, the scorecards were ridiculous but we all knew he would have to ko the guy to win before it started.

He won't be the first or the last. It's just boxing.

He's had one home decision against Beltran, don't talk fornicating wet about there being more.

[forcefraser]

Starting to think I don't understand boxing anymore. Three proffesional judges score it wide, one by 117-109 and I had it a draw due to the points reductions

[expe]

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Were the point deductions warranted in anyway, sounds to me like they were not. By the sounds of it Fig was the one more worthy of getting points deducted.

One probably. Two no. The ref was as bad as the judges.

Ok, but what about Fig, was he worthy of a point deduction maybe? Sounds like the ref has been very opportunistic and outright biased in favour of Fig.

They were both at it up close, Burns was holding but Figueroa was rushing in with his head, both were hitting round the back of the head, six of one half a dozen of the other sort of stuff, but the only warning given to Figueroa was about the shoulder, whereas Ricky was constantly warned and Cole was pulling his hand away when they were in clinches.

[ALI]

Burns was 6/1 against with the bookmakers, a big underdog. Anyone who bet on him to win tonight must be livid.

[Emmseegee]

one of the many times when the referee was complaining at Burns for leaning on Fig, Fig grabbed Burns with both arms, spun him round 180 degrees and the ref said nothing. Crazy.

Burns done his fair share of dirty tricks in there tonight but certainly no more than his opponent who was leading with his head, ducking too low, pushing with his elbows. When both fighters were tied up they were still trying to let shots go. Either split them and let them start again or let them fight it out, dont go in picking one fighters hands out of the clinch whilst the other is still bombing away. Crazy.

I scored that a draw even taking into account the unfair point deductions. The rounds Burns won in my eyes were won by clean punching and ocassionally boxing. The only rounds Fig won were won by leaning, grabbing and hassling. The exact things Burns wasnt being allowed to do.

Either way, Burns was a credit to himself in there tonight.

[brilo33]

it wasn't day light robbery just the way the scoring goes. but you could of scored burns to win that fight ,and i don't think figueroa could of moaned. i thought figueroa nicked it due to the points deductions

[ALI]

Burns has had a real tough time of late, if anyone deserved a break tonight it was him.

[davie]

Stick Figueroa in with Provodnikov

The commentators say he was crude and would be exposed by a boxer.

I'd rather see him exposed by a real brawler

[greenyox3]

Some effing genius in charge of the Sky Sports Twitter account tweeted the McDonnell result before they showed the fight.

I'd managed to avoid the result until 10 minutes ago

[brilo33]

Burns has had a real tough time of late, if anyone deserved a break tonight it was him.

ricky did everone proud tonight,and if Kevin Mitchell wins his world title fight, you can guess who his first defence will be against

[digzee]

Figueroa wont win a title at this weight that much is clear, would be fun to watch Crawford wipe the floor with him but obviously Haymon wont let him near anyone good.

[Emmseegee]

Burns has had a real tough time of late, if anyone deserved a break tonight it was him.

ricky did everone proud tonight,and if Kevin Mitchell wins his world title fight, you can guess who his first defence will be against

Burns would have had a better chance of that happening before tonight. Proved too much tonight that I cant see Mitchell being thrown in for a beating again. Lol.

That performance tonight is right up there with the Martinez victory when you consider his recent form and being the away fighter etc.

[brilo33]

Figueroa wont win a title at this weight that much is clear, would be fun to watch Crawford wipe the floor with him but obviously Haymon wont let him near anyone good.

Terence Crawford is different class. think he will have to keep going up weights to get big fights. would like to see crawford v Lucas Martin Matthysse

[brilo33]

Burns has had a real tough time of late, if anyone deserved a break tonight it was him.

ricky did everone proud tonight,and if Kevin Mitchell wins his world title fight, you can guess who his first defence will be against

Burns would have had a better chance of that happening before tonight. Proved too much tonight that I cant see Mitchell being thrown in for a beating again. Lol.

That performance tonight is right up there with the Martinez victory when you consider his recent form and being the away fighter etc.

money and big fights, mitchell is a proud man and would want the rematch

[expe]

ricky did everone proud tonight,and if Kevin Mitchell wins his world title fight, you can guess who his first defence will be against

Burns would have had a better chance of that happening before tonight. Proved too much tonight that I cant see Mitchell being thrown in for a beating again. Lol.

That performance tonight is right up there with the Martinez victory when you consider his recent form and being the away fighter etc.

money and big fights, mitchell is a proud man and would want the rematch

And Eddie Hearn is a businessman, Mitchell having the title suits him more than it does Burns so he'll do his best to keep it that way. Mitchell isn't the only option anyway, Flanagan is fighting for the WBO and Derry should fight for the full WBA title next so if either wins they're potential fights for him.

[Emmseegee]

Imagine the difference that extra 1.5lbs would have made to Figeroas fitness in a hard fight like that if he actually tried to make weight......
How many advantages did this guy have tonight.

(Im still that annoyed that I dont even care if i have got his name wrong lol)

[brilo33]

Burns would have had a better chance of that happening before tonight. Proved too much tonight that I cant see Mitchell being thrown in for a beating again. Lol.

That performance tonight is right up there with the Martinez victory when you consider his recent form and being the away fighter etc.[/quote]
money and big fights, mitchell is a proud man and would want the rematch[/quote]
And Eddie Hearn is a businessman, Mitchell having the title suits him more than it does Burns so he'll do his best to keep it that way. Mitchell isn't the only option anyway, Flanagan is fighting for the WBO and Derry should fight for the full WBA title next so if either wins they're potential fights for him.[/quote]
good shout with Flanagan. but what about stephen ormond could be a good scrap winner gets a shot at either

[rio]

Am I the only one laughing at the irony of Burns being shafted by the "Home Decision?.

I hope you are.

To be fair the Beltran fight was a way worse decision, I felt this fight could have gone either way.

[Horse]

To be fair the Beltran fight was a way worse decision, I felt this fight could have gone either way.

It's still in no way funny.

[daviddee]

A lot of dreamers on this thread. Was a ugly fight with Figueroa being very crude and Burns struggling up close. That's where the fight was won. Ricky couldn't defend against it and kept getting stuck on the ropes. I had it 115-111 for Figueroa could argue maybe 115-112 as the first point off was in a close round. Was it points off yes and it could of been more. Ricky is much better when he fights at range he always holds in close and that's what lost him the fight. I do agree the ref never helped should have broke a lot of the time but it is what it is. Ricky done well in patches against a very poor Figueroa. He needs to be at 135 he looked too heavy around the gut and face. The right guy won but Ricky can come again and should hold his head high proved he's still got a fighters heart

[ShadrachSimmo]

it wasn't day light robbery just the way the scoring goes. but you could of scored burns to win that fight ,and i don't think figueroa could of moaned. i thought figueroa nicked it due to the points deductions

As close as it was and with 2 points off can anyone honestly say Burns deserved anything other than a loss?

Figueroas been exposed as a fat no use bastard tonight to a degree. Is he honestly going upto welter? Oh dear.

[brilo33]

A lot of dreamers on this thread. Was a ugly fight with Figueroa being very crude and Burns struggling up close. That's where the fight was won. Ricky couldn't defend against it and kept getting stuck on the ropes. I had it 115-111 for Figueroa could argue maybe 115-112 as the first point off was in a close round. Was it points off yes and it could of been more. Ricky is much better when he fights at range he always holds in close and that's what lost him the fight. I do agree the ref never helped should have broke a lot of the time but it is what it is. Ricky done well in patches against a very poor Figueroa. He needs to be at 135 he looked too heavy around the gut and face. The right guy won but Ricky can come again and should hold his head high proved he's still got a fighters heart

Not dreamers its is adrenaline from watching a great fight

[Horse]

A lot of dreamers on this thread.

[Horse]

As close as it was and with 2 points off can anyone honestly say Burns deserved anything other than a loss?

Yes.

[rio]

Am I the only one laughing at the irony of Burns being shafted by the "Home Decision?.

I hope you are.

To be fair the Beltran fight was a way worse decision, I felt this fight could have gone either way.