Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Chepppaaa
Super Middleweight
Posts: 2626
Joined: 01 Jun 2013, 19:32

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by Chepppaaa »

could you imagine, this had more action than the 300 million dollar fight.

i am not kidding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-273Kv1GBg
ClivePatrickLyons
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2811
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 22:10

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

Maidana and Cotto :lol: :lol: you could have mentioned Corrales or Gatti that's when I loved his style, I was even a bigger fan the night he ko'd Hatton these were MASTER CLASSE'S HELD BY MAYWEATHER JR :box: :box: :box: THEN HE BECAME TBE :oo THEN ON A TV SCREEN IN FRONT OF
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MILLION'S OF PEOPLE SEEN IT BUT SPEAKS TO HIS FATHER LIKE HE'S A DOG TELLS HIM HE COULD'NT FIGHT AND THAT HE KNOWS SHIT ABOUT BOXING RANTING AND RAVING TELLS FLOYD SR TO GET OUT OF HIS GYM AND ALL THE OTHER SHIT THAT I SEEN THAT DAY
TURNED ME AWAY BUT NOT HAS A BOXING FAN ITS WHEN HE DEMAND'S ALL THE OTHER THINGS LIKE WHO CAN WEAR WHAT GLOVE'S ETC ETC ETC ...
WHO GETS ANNOUNCED FIRST/LAST :witzend: THEN GETS MILLION'S AND FU..ING MILLION'S OF DOLLAR'S FOR A FIGHT THAT HE COULD OF FOUGHT
IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN HE CHOSE THE OTHER NIGHT BUT NO HE CHOSE THE EASY ROAD FU..ING JAB RUN POT SHOT HOLD...... :shame:
THEN WHEN HIS OLD MAN TELLS HIM HE IS FIGHTING LIKE HE'S SCARED HE COMES OUT AGGRESSIVE FOR 30 SECOND'S THEN GOES BACK TO THE SAFETY FIRST STYLE.........COME ON FOR SHAME SAKE YOUR GETTING MORE MONEY THAN ANY LEGEND FOR A SINGLE FIGHT AND HE TAKE'S THE
MONEY AND RUNS..........AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME..........Badhusker..............ITS NOT PERSONAL I USE TO BE A HUGE FAN :oops:
Like a Boss
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 5863
Joined: 01 May 2012, 03:21

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by Like a Boss »

Floyd Mayweather has said in an interview with Showtime that at the moment he's not interested in a rematch with Manny Pacquiao ''because he's a sore loser and he's a coward.''

Now Pacquiao was the loser on the night. But "coward"?

How can you call a guy you just fought, who chased you all over the ring for 12 rounds trying to knock your head off, a coward? :doh:
KBB
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2809
Joined: 11 Oct 2014, 23:33

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by KBB »

man wrote:
NateJR wrote:I just don't see how any objective person could have this fight close, much less Manny winning. I mean Manny might have been more aggressive, although he was still very inactive for a lot of the fight. Pacquiao just didn't land punches that people seem to think he did, he could barely touch Floyd. I mean it's obvious as day that Pacquiao wasn't landing poo, especially when he was throwing those combinations when Floyd was on the ropes. The fight wasn't close and 99% of boxing "experts" are going to disagree with what ever little logic you've gather to get your opinion that Pacquiao won the fight.

This isn't a popularity contest and bunch of butt hurt Pacquiao fans simply won't change the reality that Pacquiao got, EASILY out boxed no matter how many of you sorry people join forces and flat out lie. But continue to lie, that's fine but don't expect anyone with knowledge on boxing to respect your obviously flawed outlook on the fight. Good day lol.
i saw it close. you didn't. that's about it. i
think floyd did just very, very little to clearly
win rounds and i give him only limited credit
for avoiding being punched. outboxing is
different. leonard outboxed hearts, floyd
did not outbox manny.
Leonard came nowhere near close to outboxing Hearns in that first fight, in fact it was Tommy that was outboxing SRL and he was so far behind that he needed that stoppage/KO in order to win the fight.

Floyd did outbox Manny, did they brawl? No! Did they stand toe to toe? No! So I'm not sure what fight you were watching but I saw Floyd do what he always does which is Box his opponent and beat him on points.

If you saw anything other than that then you definitely were watching a different fight or are too biased and have too much non objectivity to admit that you are upset that your boy lost.

Floyd's defense was a huge factor, we saw MP missing and missing, he landed a few flurries but that was about it, Mayweather threw more punches and landed more, he set traps, he feinted, he used his shoulder roll (the one y'all said that doesn't work on SPs) and he made it look easy.

Go look at youtube fighter's reactions, not one fighter I saw picked Manny in this bout, not one journalist or sportswriter outside of Skip BUTTHURT Bayless said Packy won this fight.

I know y'all hate Floyd and wanted him to lose so badly that it hurts to admit that Manny lost because he didn't do squat/was shutdown.
man
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3197
Joined: 09 Jul 2007, 10:38

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by man »

KBB wrote:
man wrote:
NateJR wrote:I just don't see how any objective person could have this fight close, much less Manny winning. I mean Manny might have been more aggressive, although he was still very inactive for a lot of the fight. Pacquiao just didn't land punches that people seem to think he did, he could barely touch Floyd. I mean it's obvious as day that Pacquiao wasn't landing poo, especially when he was throwing those combinations when Floyd was on the ropes. The fight wasn't close and 99% of boxing "experts" are going to disagree with what ever little logic you've gather to get your opinion that Pacquiao won the fight.

This isn't a popularity contest and bunch of butt hurt Pacquiao fans simply won't change the reality that Pacquiao got, EASILY out boxed no matter how many of you sorry people join forces and flat out lie. But continue to lie, that's fine but don't expect anyone with knowledge on boxing to respect your obviously flawed outlook on the fight. Good day lol.
i saw it close. you didn't. that's about it. i
think floyd did just very, very little to clearly
win rounds and i give him only limited credit
for avoiding being punched. outboxing is
different. leonard outboxed hearts, floyd
did not outbox manny.
Leonard came nowhere near close to outboxing Hearns in that first fight, in fact it was Tommy that was outboxing SRL and he was so far behind that he needed that stoppage/KO in order to win the fight.

Floyd did outbox Manny, did they brawl? No! Did they stand toe to toe? No! So I'm not sure what fight you were watching but I saw Floyd do what he always does which is Box his opponent and beat him on points.

If you saw anything other than that then you definitely were watching a different fight or are too biased and have too much non objectivity to admit that you are upset that your boy lost.

Floyd's defense was a huge factor, we saw MP missing and missing, he landed a few flurries but that was about it, Mayweather threw more punches and landed more, he set traps, he feinted, he used his shoulder roll (the one y'all said that doesn't work on SPs) and he made it look easy.

Go look at youtube fighter's reactions, not one fighter I saw picked Manny in this bout, not one journalist or sportswriter outside of Skip BUTTHURT Bayless said Packy won this fight.

I know y'all hate Floyd and wanted him to lose so badly that it hurts to admit that Manny lost because he didn't do squat/was shutdown.
sorry, i meant ray outboxed hagler, not hearns
of course. regarding my bias: many knowledgable
people disagree with me, so you might have a point.
have to rewatch in a couple of months. though i
definitely do not want to do that. rather give in
in debates than watch this "titanic" battle again.
Bobbyptsd
Cruiserweight
Posts: 1858
Joined: 24 Apr 2011, 00:58

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by Bobbyptsd »

cj wrote:Guys you can hate me or like me for this post , it don't bother me , b/c I no longer care about boxing
Fair enough then.
cj
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 35
Joined: 21 Nov 2006, 07:09

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by cj »

Bobbyptsd wrote:
cj wrote:Guys you can hate me or like me for this post , it don't bother me , b/c I no longer care about boxing
Fair enough then.
But it don't mean that you are not allowed to share your thoughts :lol: smart ars
cj
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 35
Joined: 21 Nov 2006, 07:09

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by cj »

man wrote:
NateJR wrote:I just don't see how any objective person could have this fight close, much less Manny winning. I mean Manny might have been more aggressive, although he was still very inactive for a lot of the fight. Pacquiao just didn't land punches that people seem to think he did, he could barely touch Floyd. I mean it's obvious as day that Pacquiao wasn't landing poo, especially when he was throwing those combinations when Floyd was on the ropes. The fight wasn't close and 99% of boxing "experts" are going to disagree with what ever little logic you've gather to get your opinion that Pacquiao won the fight.

This isn't a popularity contest and bunch of butt hurt Pacquiao fans simply won't change the reality that Pacquiao got, EASILY out boxed no matter how many of you sorry people join forces and flat out lie. But continue to lie, that's fine but don't expect anyone with knowledge on boxing to respect your obviously flawed outlook on the fight. Good day lol.
i saw it close. you didn't. that's about it. i
think floyd did just very, very little to clearly
win rounds and i give him only limited credit
for avoiding being punched. outboxing is
different. leonard outboxed hearts, floyd
did not outbox manny.
very well said..
cj
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 35
Joined: 21 Nov 2006, 07:09

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by cj »

koolkc107 wrote:There is a big difference between running and effective movement.

And usually, you can tell that difference by the punches landed.

If I am in motion, yet landing more punches than you, I am boxing not running.

And if I am landing more hard punches than you, it is a schooling in addition to the clinic.

That is what we saw.

And all the fanboy wishing in the world won't change that.
I winder what floyd would've done if there was no ring or ropes ?
If there was no ring, I would say Manny probably would say " I am not gonna run after you anymore , come back , I am just kidding with you I am not gonna box you " lol

Well buddy, then they should name this a different sport, because boxing is men's sport and men don't run, they come forward like a lion.
man
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3197
Joined: 09 Jul 2007, 10:38

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by man »

cj wrote:
man wrote:
NateJR wrote:I just don't see how any objective person could have this fight close, much less Manny winning. I mean Manny might have been more aggressive, although he was still very inactive for a lot of the fight. Pacquiao just didn't land punches that people seem to think he did, he could barely touch Floyd. I mean it's obvious as day that Pacquiao wasn't landing poo, especially when he was throwing those combinations when Floyd was on the ropes. The fight wasn't close and 99% of boxing "experts" are going to disagree with what ever little logic you've gather to get your opinion that Pacquiao won the fight.

This isn't a popularity contest and bunch of butt hurt Pacquiao fans simply won't change the reality that Pacquiao got, EASILY out boxed no matter how many of you sorry people join forces and flat out lie. But continue to lie, that's fine but don't expect anyone with knowledge on boxing to respect your obviously flawed outlook on the fight. Good day lol.
i saw it close. you didn't. that's about it. i
think floyd did just very, very little to clearly
win rounds and i give him only limited credit
for avoiding being punched. outboxing is
different. leonard outboxed hearts, floyd
did not outbox manny.
very well said..
just for the record i meant leonard outboxed
hagler, not hearns (or hearts) ... :) ... i kind of
made a typo in a typo.
koolkc107
Middleweight
Posts: 2032
Joined: 31 Oct 2013, 10:54

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by koolkc107 »

cj wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:There is a big difference between running and effective movement.

And usually, you can tell that difference by the punches landed.

If I am in motion, yet landing more punches than you, I am boxing not running.

And if I am landing more hard punches than you, it is a schooling in addition to the clinic.

That is what we saw.

And all the fanboy wishing in the world won't change that.
I winder what floyd would've done if there was no ring or ropes ?
If there was no ring, I would say Manny probably would say " I am not gonna run after you anymore , come back , I am just kidding with you I am not gonna box you " lol

Well buddy, then they should name this a different sport, because boxing is men's sport and men don't run, they come forward like a lion.
Floyd didn't run. If you knew SH&T about boxing, you'd realize that.

And how could you miss how often Floyd DID in fact come forward?

Take the PacTard blinders off and deal with reality.

Your guy lost. It wasn't close.

He is not on Floyd's level and, in truth, there is plenty of reason to think he never was.

Get over it.
cj
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 35
Joined: 21 Nov 2006, 07:09

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by cj »

koolkc107 wrote:
cj wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:There is a big difference between running and effective movement.

And usually, you can tell that difference by the punches landed.

If I am in motion, yet landing more punches than you, I am boxing not running.

And if I am landing more hard punches than you, it is a schooling in addition to the clinic.

That is what we saw.

And all the fanboy wishing in the world won't change that.
I winder what floyd would've done if there was no ring or ropes ?
If there was no ring, I would say Manny probably would say " I am not gonna run after you anymore , come back , I am just kidding with you I am not gonna box you " lol

Well buddy, then they should name this a different sport, because boxing is men's sport and men don't run, they come forward like a lion.
Floyd didn't run. If you knew SH&T about boxing, you'd realize that.

And how could you miss how often Floyd DID in fact come forward?

Take the PacTard blinders off and deal with reality.

Your guy lost. It wasn't close.

He is not on Floyd's level and, in truth, there is plenty of reason to think he never was.

Get over it.
How many of the past great fighters or I shud say legends earned their legacy or big name by running or fighting like the way floyd runs or fights ?
If few of you who claim that what floyd dose is boxing , then I am very sure that you don't really know what boxing is.
Just tell me how the sport of boxing was created or invented ?
Think hard , in old days 2 men wanted to test their strength and man power to show or prove it to others , that who is stronger and who can fight , now where the Fa**k running around the ring comes from ?
Do you think back in days , if a fighter would run away from his opponents to not get hit, would he be qualified as a fighter ? Hell no, they probably disqualify his ars , and send him back to his mommy.
KBB
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2809
Joined: 11 Oct 2014, 23:33

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by KBB »

cj wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:How many of the past great fighters or I shud say legends earned their legacy or big name by running or fighting like the way floyd runs or fights ?
If few of you who claim that what floyd dose is boxing , then I am very sure that you don't really know what boxing is.
Just tell me how the sport of boxing was created or invented ?
Think hard , in old days 2 men wanted to test their strength and man power to show or prove it to others , that who is stronger and who can fight , now where the Fa**k running around the ring comes from ?
Do you think back in days , if a fighter would run away from his opponents to not get hit, would he be qualified as a fighter ? Hell no, they probably disqualify his ars , and send him back to his mommy.
No, all the old boxers just stood toe to toe and bashed one another's brains in. None of them ever did what you would call running. :roll:
koolkc107
Middleweight
Posts: 2032
Joined: 31 Oct 2013, 10:54

Hold Up On The Holding Beef

Post by koolkc107 »

Floyd did not run against Pac he used movement.

He would elude Pac then reset, standing right in front of Manny all day.

And quit bellyaching about Floyd clinching.

There were about 20 clinches the entire fight- less than 2 per round on average.

We saw Figueroa and Burns spend an entire fight clinching and no one complained about that.

The double standards applied to Mayweather are astonishing.
koolkc107
Middleweight
Posts: 2032
Joined: 31 Oct 2013, 10:54

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by koolkc107 »

Ali vs Spinks II

Leonard vs. Duran II

Hearns vs. Leonard II

Holyfield vs. Valuev (yes the same Evander who wants the rules changed based on Saturday night).

And there are others.

Look up these fights (they are all on youtube) and tell me what you see.

Then come back here and tell me how Floyd runs but these guys don't.
KBB
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2809
Joined: 11 Oct 2014, 23:33

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by KBB »

koolkc107 wrote:Ali vs Spinks II

Leonard vs. Duran II

Hearns vs. Leonard II

Holyfield vs. Valuev (yes the same Evander who wants the rules changed based on Saturday night).

And there are others.

Look up these fights (they are all on youtube) and tell me what you see.

Then come back here and tell me how Floyd runs but these guys don't.
Notice none of them have gotten back to you. I'll give them an even more recent fight, Pacquiao vs Rios.

Tell me is there any difference in the way he fought Rios vs the way Floyd fought him???

Where are the PacTURDS now???
koolkc107
Middleweight
Posts: 2032
Joined: 31 Oct 2013, 10:54

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by koolkc107 »

KBB wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:Ali vs Spinks II

Leonard vs. Duran II

Hearns vs. Leonard II

Holyfield vs. Valuev (yes the same Evander who wants the rules changed based on Saturday night).

And there are others.

Look up these fights (they are all on youtube) and tell me what you see.

Then come back here and tell me how Floyd runs but these guys don't.
Notice none of them have gotten back to you. I'll give them an even more recent fight, Pacquiao vs Rios.

Tell me is there any difference in the way he fought Rios vs the way Floyd fought him???

Where are the PacTURDS now???
Yep. Same stuff.

It is OK when other greats do what Floyd does, but not OK when Floyd does it.
KBB
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2809
Joined: 11 Oct 2014, 23:33

Re: Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao NEW

Post by KBB »

koolkc107 wrote:Yep. Same stuff. It is OK when other greats do what Floyd does, but not OK when Floyd does it.
Here are the highlights of their fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vPreGD0qo

This is pretty much what happened in the fight, Floyd won it easily.
Post Reply