Ingemar Johansson/Biggest Right Hand in HW History(?)

TheGreatA · Post by **TheGreatA** » 06 Feb 2010, 15:00

Newspaper reports say Hein Ten Hoff was closer to 6'5 than the 6'3 he is listed at on BoxRec.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 06 Feb 2010, 19:16

granberry wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
granberry wrote:Controversial has never been hit by Johansson.
Controversial, like the rest of us, wishes someone would hit you upside the head with a right hand.

Any hand, really.
They are welcome to try that.

As long as they don't complain about what happens to them just after that.

I loved you in Gran Torino 8)

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 06 Feb 2010, 20:57

Brutu wrote:I think one of the reasons the Ingemar Johansson wasnt in top shape for the second or third of the fights with Patterson was
that he was too busy being a celebrity once he became the undisputed HW Champion of the World.

True.

Ingo said he made a mistake by looking past Patterrson to Liston.

He was sure he would have to fight Liston and was preparing for that more than for Patterson while he got ready for the 2nd Patterson fight.

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 06 Feb 2010, 21:23

Ingo has a famously nasty right hand, and it is revered rightfully.
But I always think of Shavers and Witherspoon when it comes
to the right hand.

I doubt anyone would be feeling much of anything if any of
these guys landed that right hand.

You have a powerful guy with explosive energy in his fist,
he times and places it well on you, whether a Chris Byrd or
a Shavers... its going to end your night. However sturdy jawed
you are. That is why good prize fighters, with good chins don't
leave it out ;)

A 5.56mm round is going to end your time just as well as a
155mm shell, just a matter of where and when it lands.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 06 Feb 2010, 23:42

For some reason Hein Ten Hoff reminds me of Gunboat Smith.
Is there any surviving fight footage of Gunboat Smith?
Im guessing that he may have had a similiar style of boxing.

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 07 Feb 2010, 16:24

Brutu wrote:For some reason Hein Ten Hoff reminds me of Gunboat Smith.
Is there any surviving fight footage of Gunboat Smith?
Im guessing that he may have had a similiar style of boxing.

WHAT exactly makes you think that?

Gunboat Smith beat Jess Willard and knocked Jack Johnson out the ring as a sparring partner.

He also came close to beating Dempsey the first time they fought.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 07 Feb 2010, 17:20

TheGreatA wrote:Newspaper reports say Hein Ten Hoff was closer to 6'5 than the 6'3 he is listed at on BoxRec.

That must be correct . . look at 6'Walcott next to 6'2 Louis and then next to Hoff . . .Hoff absolutely towers over Walcott, he was definitely at least over 6'4 if not 6'5 outright.

I was impressed by his clip vs Kohlbrecher . . .good long snapping left that he sometimes hooked with, and a dynamite right cross. One can definitely see the German tradition/style which can be seen in current fighters brought up in that system like the Klitschkos.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 07 Feb 2010, 18:14

My first first impression of Hein Tim Hoff was that he was tall at least 6 ft 5 , compared to Johansson.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 07 Feb 2010, 18:22

The Gunner
(Iin his street clothes)
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78812

granberry · Post by **granberry** » 07 Feb 2010, 19:36

Brutu wrote:The Gunner
(Iin his street clothes)
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78812

Great stuff, Brutu.

Where are you getting this?

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 07 Feb 2010, 19:54

granberry wrote:
Brutu wrote:The Gunner
(Iin his street clothes)
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=78812
Great stuff, Brutu.

Where are you getting this?

Dont thank me,thank The Great A,for the link to
http://www.britishpathe.com
I was not aware of that database of film footage previously before he linked up the Johansson fight footage.

TheGreatA · Post by **TheGreatA** » 08 Feb 2010, 02:14

Robinson · Post by **Robinson** » 08 Feb 2010, 04:17

TheGreatA

You are an actual legend sir !

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 18 Jan 2011, 05:51

Was Johansson vs Richardson televised live on BBC-TV?
(this looks to be a kinescope)
Whats with the switch to another cam for the first knock-down punch?
Was it added later for"artistic reasons"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MecEKGw6LTc

Scottrf · Post by **Scottrf** » 18 Jan 2011, 07:05

I still think the biggest right hand in HW history was Shavers vs Holmes. Have no idea how he bounced back up.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 18 Jan 2011, 08:52

Here is some footage the public workout of
Ingemar Johannson doing a 2 round exhibition with Muhammad Ali(195 lbs),
in Miami Beach Convention Hall,February.6. 1961,
when Johansson was preparing to meet Patterson for the third time.
Johansson spared 2 rounds with Ali,and 2 rounds each with 2 other boxers.
Reportedly the crowd in the auditorium cheered Ali and booed Johansson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP6wZPuAZp8

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 18 Jan 2011, 09:03

Check out the right hand that Ingo lands on his opponent as an amateur boxer in 1952.
fight at 1:30.

http://svtplay.se/v/1371222/oppet_arkiv ... skamp_1952

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 18 Jan 2011, 22:11

He's up there.

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 20 Jan 2011, 06:07

There was an article a while back, by one of the referees, who said that Ingo had one of the hardest, if not the hardest right hands in heavyweight history. I think it was Alan Sugar?

Does any footage of his KO over Cooper exist?

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 20 Jan 2011, 06:09

Alan Sugar? Why's it changed R-on L-ipton to AS?

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 21 Jan 2011, 05:30

Whose fist of a heavyweight champion here looks the meanest of em all?

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/File: ... oJack.jpeg.

JC · Post by JC » 22 Jan 2011, 10:32

Ingo had the classic late 50s early 60s heavyweight build, before they started getting bigger from Ali/Liston onward.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 23 Dec 2012, 16:55

This year marked the 60th anniversary of Ingemar Johansson being disqualified at the 1952 Summer Olympics.
(but also Floyd Patterson winning the gold medal at Middleweight and Lazlo Papp at light-Middleweight Gold)
Here is a list of his bouts leading up to the Gold medal bought.
I guess all this info about the Olympics has been posted within this year at wikipedia.
Because it wasnt available on-line this time a year ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_at_ ... r_Olympics

Caractacus · Post by **Caractacus** » 11 May 2015, 18:11

IMOP In looking at this film footage from the 1952 Olympics in Helsinki Finland .The ref in this bout was nutzo.
This looked like an action packed fight to me comsidering the size difference between the two.
Did the ref expect Ingemar Johansson to just bore in and attack Sanders and run into an uppercut or somethin'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A21Mh46RURU

cfang · Post by **cfang** » 12 May 2015, 14:31

That Ring list of top 100 punchers is a total joke. julian jackson and G man in the late 20s, Hearns not in the top ten? Hamed way down there. Poor list imo

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