jamesmcdonnell wrote:My personal feeling is that it is not Pacquaio who came up with the shoulder excuses, but his team around him, who want to get another big payday against Floyd - and know that nobody except the most diehard of Pacquaio fans are going to stump up for that - so they need to recycle him.
I've don't recall Pacquaio making excuses when he lost before or being so ingracious, not even the loss against Bradley.
The ridiculous excuses people are coming up with is really quite mind boggling - even a fkucing child could see he lost that fight - so to suggest the officiating was off kilter is truly laughable - Pacquaio threw little, landed even less, and was never even remotely in control of the bout, the only times he had any success was when Floyd took his foot off of the gas. The judging if anything was generous to Pacquaio.
People need to face up to reality, Pacquaio simply was not good enough - he was completely bamboozled by Mayweather, who fought a very smart, if incredibly boring fight, and won without even really breaking a sweat. I said after 4 rounds the fight was done and that the pattern of the fight was set, and it proved to be right.
While I disagree with Moretti's scorecard for this fight (118-110 is extremely generous to Floyd in what was a very close fight IMO) I accept that Floyd won the fight and looking at Moretti's past scorecards, he seems to be a good judge in general. I actually think his score for the Floyd-Canelo fight was generous to Canelo - Manny did much better against Floyd than Canelo did. The only fights I disagree with him on are Floyd's fights against Manny and Maidana 1, which I think were both very close in different ways. Floyd had far more offensive success against Maidana than Manny, but Maidana had far more offensive success against Floyd than Manny.
jezzamundo wrote:While I disagree with Moretti's scorecard for this fight (118-110 is extremely generous to Floyd in what was a very close fight IMO) I accept that Floyd won the fight and looking at Moretti's past scorecards, he seems to be a good judge in general. I actually think his score for the Floyd-Canelo fight was generous to Canelo - Manny did much better against Floyd than Canelo did. The only fights I disagree with him on are Floyd's fights against Manny and Maidana 1, which I think were both very close in different ways. Floyd had far more offensive success against Maidana than Manny, but Maidana had far more offensive success against Floyd than Manny.
What gets me is that after his crap scorecard in maidana 1 he's picked again for Maidana 2. Floyd essentially chased CJ Ross out the sport for the Canelo card yet Maidana has to put up with Floyd fan Moretti again in the rematch??
Unbelieveable. Read the multitude of topics on this bout. many people can actually see how a card of 118 110 came about so stop coming up with this garbage.
as far as judges and refs being from the country or origin - its irrelelvant. You pick the best available. When all is said and done the right guy won.
MOVE ON !!!
Perhaps one of the most telling aspects of this topic is how Floyd fans put Floyd first and foremost ahead of the sport in general.
Could you imagine Chavez Jnr drew the same Mexican judge for 8 of his last 10 fights? There would be uproar and all kinds of claims of bias and corruption.
Having the same judge from your own country judge 8/10 of your fights is simply wrong which ever way you cut it. The international judging roster is deep enough to avoid scenarios like this.
The positive side I guess is when Floyd retires his fans like we've seen in this thread will move on too.
