Manny held his own

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We can only give Floyd the credit of beating the 2015 version of Manny Pacquaio... Had this fight been 2008/09 - it could have been very different...

We would've had this fight in 2010 if Manny had only manned up and taken the test, everything else was agreed to on the contract they had drawn up:

Floyd agreed to the 50-50
Agreed to the 10 million dollar penalty for every pound over the 147 limit
Agreed to the gloves
And he agreed to do the same testing that Manny was supposed to do.

He asked for one thing from Packy and Manny refused citing that "having blood drawn weakens him" and that "he was afraid of needles" and that killed the fight!!

Sorry but you backfired with that one:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

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We would've had this fight in 2010 if Manny had only manned up and taken the test, everything else was agreed to on the contract they had drawn up:

That is a completely different conversation... I'm sure than you can recognise that:

A. Why did the Floyd vs Manny fight no happen years ago?

B. How would the fight go if they fought? Who would have won prime-for-prime?

Those are two different conversations, worthy of their own threads... Let's not try to move the goalposts here gentlemen.

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1. to make a point.

A flawed point, using flawed logic. Balboa is a factional character, let's leave him out of any sensible discussion regarding boxing.

2.it seems you dont.

On the contrary, I am not the one who has been branding people for not agreeing with his point, as you have:

if any of you think pacquiao won more than 2 rounds you really are mentalists.

You are harbouring this delusion that because I don't share your overzealous fawning over Mayweather that you can then assume to know more of boxing than I do.

3.how do you know that, floyd was better in 2008/9 than he is now so i say manny would of won maybe 1 round rather the 2 he did.

Floyd was better, yes - but to answer your question Manny Pacquaio was much, much better back then. And the reasoning follows that this means it would be a very different fight.

I can't say for 100% certainty who would win had they fought at that time period, but neither can you - nor can anyone else. However, it is undeniable that because Manny was a better fighter back then, it increases his probability of winning, compared to what it was earlier this month.

i do know more about boxing than you hands down.

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i do know more about boxing than you hands down.

Thank you. Your a very pleasant conversationalist and a true little ray of sunshine, aren't you?

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We would've had this fight in 2010 if Manny had only manned up and taken the test, everything else was agreed to on the contract they had drawn up:

That is a completely different conversation... I'm sure than you can recognise that:

A. Why did the Floyd vs Manny fight no happen years ago?

B. How would the fight go if they fought? Who would have won prime-for-prime?

Those are two different conversations, worthy of their own threads... Let's not try to move the goalposts here gentlemen.

Oh I get it, only you as a Pacquiao fan are allowed to "move the Goal post" as you stated but aren't you the one who took and move the Goal Post way back when you state this:

Had this fight been 2008/09 - it could have been very different...

Sure it probably would've been different, Floyd still would've beaten him because we can look back at the fights they both had and see them both doing the same things they have always done and we can see that Manny didn't know how to cut off the ring then just as he doesn't to this very day.

Had Manny been able to cut off the ring properly he would've been able to force Floyd to fight him instead of allowing him to use lateral movement and escape when he did have him on the ropes. <<<Why can't y'all see this???

So you took it back and I explained the reason why we didn't have the fight back then but don't make it seem as though Floyd ducked or avoided this bout when it is clear who did.
Personally I think the fight would've been different in the sense that since it is clear Manny doesn't know how to cut off the ring and that they would've been younger and faster that Floyd being the faster with his hands, longer reach, better accuracy and timing then he would've won in an even more obvious fashion back in 2008-2010 whenever.

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Oh I get it, only you as a Pacquiao fan are allowed to "move the Goal post" as you stated

Certainly not, when did I actually say that? I didn't, you are attempting to put words in to my mouth (unsuccessfully I might add).

but aren't you the one who took and move the Goal Post way back when you state this:

Had this fight been 2008/09 - it could have been very different...

Indeed I did, but how exactly did I change the topic of conversation. When (on this particular thread) was I actually talking about the reasons or the fight not happening?

I wasn't - hence I did not change the conversation. If you can't understand that, then I pity your schooling.

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Sure it probably would've been different, Floyd still would've beaten him because we can look back at the fights they both had and see them both doing the same things they have always done

Your entitled to your opinion, sir... But this next bit is my favourite thus far:

and we can see that Manny didn't know how to cut off the ring then just as he doesn't to this very day.

That's a helluva statement, a fighter of the magnitude of Manny Pacquaio doesn't know how to do a basic and simple thing like cutting the ring off

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i do know more about boxing than you hands down.

Thank you. Your a very pleasant conversationalist and a true little ray of sunshine, aren't you?

you can dish it out crease the sarcasm condescending overtones smiley faces to show how ridicules you think someone is, but you cant take it back. i do know more about boxing than you, you've read a few books thats it. and just to explain the rocky post was to show you how silly you are the mentalist comment was a play on alan partridge, for fun, and again i do know more than you about boxing you but thats not saying much because and to quote your favorite programme you know nothing crease.

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Sure it probably would've been different, Floyd still would've beaten him because we can look back at the fights they both had and see them both doing the same things they have always done

Your entitled to your opinion, sir... But this next bit is my favourite thus far:

and we can see that Manny didn't know how to cut off the ring then just as he doesn't to this very day.

That's a helluva statement, a fighter of the magnitude of Manny Pacquaio doesn't know how to do a basic and simple thing like cutting the ring off

Well why don't you just watch the fight and see how easily Floyd was able to circle off the ropes, use his lateral movement and not be cornered by Manny and then watch how Cotto was able to cut off the ring and compare the two.

It's obvious to anyone who has ever boxed/been in the ring and knows this sport that Manny doesn't know how to cut off the ring.

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you can dish it out crease the sarcasm condescending overtones smiley faces to show how ridicules you think someone is, but you cant take it back. i do know more about boxing than you, you've read a few books thats it. and just to explain the rocky post was to show you how silly you are the mentalist comment was a play on alan partridge, for fun, and again i do know more than you about boxing you but thats not saying much because and to quote your favorite programme you know nothing crease.

Thank you. You are right... You are right in everything that you say, of course.

[meahdem]

you can dish it out crease the sarcasm condescending overtones smiley faces to show how ridicules you think someone is, but you cant take it back. i do know more about boxing than you, you've read a few books thats it. and just to explain the rocky post was to show you how silly you are the mentalist comment was a play on alan partridge, for fun, and again i do know more than you about boxing you but thats not saying much because and to quote your favorite programme you know nothing crease.

Thank you. You are right... You are right in everything that you say, of course.

seems you do know something then.