Roger Mayweather: Floyd Needs Rematch for Legacy!

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Nice interview with Roger, who i feel has the greatest amount of passion for the sport of all the Mayweather's.

Mayweather's Uncle & ex-trainer is renowned for being more offensive than crackhead brother Floyd Snr, so i'm not overly surprised he doesn't feel any closure after the Mayweather clinch fest against an injured Pacquiao.

http://ontheropesboxing.com/roger-maywe ... f-victory/

Jenna J: Do you think both Floyd and Pacquiao owe it to the fans to be one hundred percent healthy and have a rematch?

Roger Mayweather: That’s what they should do. If you’re going to give the fans a hundred percent of your performance, then you need to do that and go in the ring healthy and produce what you would have produced the first time, a good performance. That’s what boxing’s about.

Jenna J: What do you think this win over Manny Pacquiao did for Floyd’s legacy?

Roger Mayweather: Floyd’s legacy is going to be good but he needs to close that legacy with Pacquiao. He needs to go back and him and Pacquiao need to do it again. That’s what I think. To close the door in terms of victory, that’s what he needs to do.

Jenna J: If Floyd does that, where does that put him amongst the greats?

Roger Mayweather: That would put him amongst the greatest fighters, but Floyd had a good, long legacy anyways. He will be amongst some of the greatest fighters but he’s got to close the thing with Pacquiao before he ever does that, because that’s one of the known guys that people respect and I think that’s the guy that he’s gonna have to beat or have to show something with.

Jenna J: Do you think Floyd being as wealthy as he is, that he will be comfortable in retirement, unlike of a lot of other fighters?

Roger Mayweather: No, he ain’t gonna be comfortable either. Floyd ain’t gonna be comfortable staying in retirement. There ain’t no fighter that I know that ain’t never came out of retirement, that was still fighting. The guys like Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, all of those guys came out of retirement. All of those guys came out of retirement and they kept fighting. If my nephew can do that and walk away from boxing, then it’s a different thing.

Jenna J: Do you think boxing likes it’s fighters to retire undefeated? It’s so rare that they do, do you think boxing would even want him to retire undefeated?

Roger Mayweather: I don’t think that boxing really cares if he walks away undefeated or not undefeated. If he determines his career about having never lost, then that’s what he needs to do.
He’s gonna have to make his mind up, if he’s gonna walk away and retire of if he ain’t gonna walk away and retire. He’s gonna have to make his mind up, one way or the other. You can’t have another career if you’re still fighting, so you have to make your mind up one way or the other. That’s what he’s gonna have to do.

Jenna J: A lot of fans were disappointed with the fight. Is there anything you’d like to say about the fight they saw and what they could expect in a rematch?

Roger Mayweather: I think that the people didn’t see the performance they should have seen. Since they didn’t get the performance that they should have seen, I think that Floyd and Pacquiao should do it again and close out what they have in a performance of what the people should have seen. That’s what I think.
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wouldn't have expected such a reasonable interview.
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Sounds like roger thought it was close aswell, wouldn't be saying anything about a rematch if he thought it was a convincing win
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Roger trying to get into his nephews head?

Maybe.

But folks need to realize it isn't Floyd who needs the rematch.

It is Manny.

Proof of that will be seen if they ever do fight again.

Mayweather will dictate the terms again, probably even more slanted his way as far as money.
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Pureist wrote:Sounds like roger thought it was close aswell, wouldn't be saying anything about a rematch if he thought it was a convincing win

Yup:
He needs to go back and him and Pacquiao need to do it again. That’s what I think. To close the door in terms of victory, that’s what he needs to do.
I always felt that Roger Mayweather is a big believer in offense, you get the sense when he's in Floyd's corner he pushes him forward, where as Floyd Snr is all about running & not getting hit. From that end, i'm not entirely surprised Roger thinks "the door is open" with regards to who got the "victory".
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I can only assume that by "legacy" he means "bank account".
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The first exhibition was disturbing enough. Roger, like Team Pac at the post fight press conference, is simply doing his part to set up the second act to this choreography.

Both dancers are tired and boring. The only question that needs to be answered after act one is whether or not the performers are in love with each other.
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Pureist wrote:Sounds like roger thought it was close aswell, wouldn't be saying anything about a rematch if he thought it was a convincing win
Roger is thinking of $$$$$; of course he wants to do it again!
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jujigatame wrote:I can only assume that by "legacy" he means "bank account".
:OhYes:

Absolutely correct.
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Tanzio wrote:The first exhibition was disturbing enough. Roger, like Team Pac at the post fight press conference, is simply doing his part to set up the second act to this choreography.

Both dancers are tired and boring. The only question that needs to be answered after act one is whether or not the performers are in love with each other.
Well they made each other 9-figure sums so i guess they certainly are.

My problem with a rematch is i'm not sure Floyd would commit to a fight and it would become another case of Manny chasing the chicken with subsequent bickering among fans and pundits as to how many rounds he caught up with the chicken enough to be awarded a 10pt.

I'm not going to lie and say i've no interest in a rematch, ofcourse I would, but I'd rather see Pacquaio matched with an opponent that brings the action, even Canelo. As for Floyd, there would be intrigue in a Khan bout for me, i'm not sure anyone is going to be dragging Floyd into a fight so let's see how a fast punching outside fighter does with a different tact.
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Ricky_ wrote:
Tanzio wrote:The first exhibition was disturbing enough. Roger, like Team Pac at the post fight press conference, is simply doing his part to set up the second act to this choreography.

Both dancers are tired and boring. The only question that needs to be answered after act one is whether or not the performers are in love with each other.
Well they made each other 9-figure sums so i guess they certainly are.

My problem with a rematch is i'm not sure Floyd would commit to a fight and it would become another case of Manny chasing the chicken with subsequent bickering among fans and pundits as to how many rounds he caught up with the chicken enough to be awarded a 10pt.
I don't see a whole lot of bickering, as it were. Fans and pundits are in large majority in agreement who won that fight. It seems like you're trying to make it look like what's annoying is that the result was somehow controversial.

It wasn't.
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Yep, I think the nicest way one can put it would be to say that their fight styles simply do not mesh. They could fight 100 times and it would never be good.

Floyd will always be able to box Manny, who is smaller and not particularly adept at cornering elusive fighters, so that is exactly what he will always do.

If they had a rematch? Sure, I would be interested, but I wouldn't spend more than about 5 bucks on it and I certainly don't care if it never happens.
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jujigatame wrote:I can only assume that by "legacy" he means "bank account".
Nail on the head :TU:
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Agree with all the posters saying it is about coins.

It's the only reason to do it again.

Hype it enough to fool the public that somehow the second one will be more competitive.

When it will actually be less competitive than the first, if such a thing is possible.
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koolkc107 wrote:Agree with all the posters saying it is about coins.

It's the only reason to do it again.

Hype it enough to fool the public that somehow the second one will be more competitive.

When it will actually be less competitive than the first, if such a thing is possible.

:lol:
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floyd sr was yelling at jr the whole fight between rounds that he was not offensive enough,
so this has NOTHING to do with sr vs roger. floyd knew the scorecards of the tag game he was
playing and he won it 8-4. manny claiming he was injured without announcing it at the time
he couldn't use his arm during training = fraud and if manny wants to fight again he should
do it for free because he got paid more than enough for that fraud. if there was a trainer
not telling his fighter enough to be aggressive it was roach. impossible to live up to a fight
with that much talk around it for so many years, but both guys in the ring that night ran
laughing all the way to the bank and anyone who mentions a rematch of that snoozefest
should be dragged out and beaten. i know so many people who bought that fight who had
never bought a fight before and swore after they will never buy another one again. few people
buy boxing ppv's to watch boxing. they want to see a fight. if there was ever a time in either
of their careers to deliver a fight, it was may 2nd. time to retire, go straight to the HOF, and
get these promoters to put together the best fights for the sake of the sport.
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..whatever they say, I just hope boxing fans are smart enough not to step on the same rake twice...
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Clearly for money and I don't imagine floyd would fight any different, he doesn't need to in order to get The W. Not sure Manny could adjust, but I'd still pay to see it again.

It would be interesting to see the ticket prices for this one. I'd imagine their best bet is to do it in a huge arena but with more sensible pricing. But then not sure floyd will leave the mgm for this fight either.
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Clearly RM is stating this because he believes that with himself in Floyd's corner that the outcome would've been more definitive; the animosity between himself and Sr is well documented. Roger thought Floyd could've been more offensive and went for the KO or stoppage due to accumulation, so he feels he could've done better and really that's all there is to this.

Anyone who speculates more out of this is simply kidding themselves. RM knows his nephew won this fight easily and of course he'd love to be in the corner if Money gives the undeserving, lying Manny Pacquiao another shot.

Floyd Jr has nothing to prove, he beat him easy the first time, if they do rematch then he will beat him in an even clearer fashion which would only lead to more excuses about how the shoulder wasn't totally healed.
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KBB wrote:Clearly RM is stating this because he believes that with himself in Floyd's corner that the outcome would've been more definitive; the animosity between himself and Sr is well documented. Roger thought Floyd could've been more offensive and went for the KO or stoppage due to accumulation, so he feels he could've done better and really that's all there is to this.

Anyone who speculates more out of this is simply kidding themselves. RM knows his nephew won this fight easily and of course he'd love to be in the corner if Money gives the undeserving, lying Manny Pacquiao another shot.

Floyd Jr has nothing to prove, he beat him easy the first time, if they do rematch then he will beat him in an even clearer fashion which would only lead to more excuses about how the shoulder wasn't totally healed.
Yeah, it might be a no win for Floyd.

I think Manny and Co. played themselves out of any rematch.

Mayweather lets the one fight ride and all the attention gets put on Manny's failure and his dishonesty.

Money has nothing to gain but a nice going away purse.
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95gerog wrote:Clearly for money and I don't imagine floyd would fight any different, he doesn't need to in order to get The W.
Yeah Floyd seems content with doing pretty much nothing for 3 minutes provided it gets the 10pt from Dave Moretti.

It's interesting that his legions of loyal fans never say much about Floyd's performances. Plenty on here ran their mouths about Floyd breakign down Pacquaio, figuring him out after 4 rounds, slapping him around and maybe even getting the stoppage. You wonder why they aren't more discontent with a fighter I presume they became a fan of after some of his sublime offensive performances like Corralles or Gatti. I guess maybe they think he couldn't do any better the 2nd time round. By the sounds of this interview with Roger he believes Floyd could probably put a hurting on Pacquaio and gain a conclusive victory if they were to fight a 2nd time.
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koolkc107 wrote:But folks need to realize it isn't Floyd who needs the rematch.

It is Manny.
true.
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man wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:But folks need to realize it isn't Floyd who needs the rematch.

It is Manny.
true.
neither of them need it folks! It just depends how much they both like Money :OhYes:
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Ricky_ wrote:
95gerog wrote:Clearly for money and I don't imagine floyd would fight any different, he doesn't need to in order to get The W.
Yeah Floyd seems content with doing pretty much nothing for 3 minutes provided it gets the 10pt from Dave Moretti.

It's interesting that his legions of loyal fans never say much about Floyd's performances. Plenty on here ran their mouths about Floyd breakign down Pacquaio, figuring him out after 4 rounds, slapping him around and maybe even getting the stoppage. You wonder why they aren't more discontent with a fighter I presume they became a fan of after some of his sublime offensive performances like Corralles or Gatti. I guess maybe they think he couldn't do any better the 2nd time round. By the sounds of this interview with Roger he believes Floyd could probably put a hurting on Pacquaio and gain a conclusive victory if they were to fight a 2nd time.

I'm not convinced he could put a true beating on him. Do i think he would win again, yes. A beating? No
Its not in Floyds mentality to think he would need to put a 'beating' on him either.

I think in both their minds, its job done. But lets leave the door open for a rematch in the future, because you never know ... :wink:
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Ricky_ wrote:
95gerog wrote:Clearly for money and I don't imagine floyd would fight any different, he doesn't need to in order to get The W.
Yeah Floyd seems content with doing pretty much nothing for 3 minutes provided it gets the 10pt from Dave Moretti.

It's interesting that his legions of loyal fans never say much about Floyd's performances. Plenty on here ran their mouths about Floyd breakign down Pacquaio, figuring him out after 4 rounds, slapping him around and maybe even getting the stoppage. You wonder why they aren't more discontent with a fighter I presume they became a fan of after some of his sublime offensive performances like Corralles or Gatti. I guess maybe they think he couldn't do any better the 2nd time round. By the sounds of this interview with Roger he believes Floyd could probably put a hurting on Pacquaio and gain a conclusive victory if they were to fight a 2nd time.
You presume an awful lot. I think Floyd won decisively, and there isn't much need to see it again because it was anti-climactic, especially after that build up. We all know you'll be right here saying "well, that was a waste of time" after the second fight unfolds more or less the same way. I don't know too many people who expected, or expect 38 year old Floyd Mayweather to turn into Sugar Ray Tyson all of a sudden at this point. He's the same guy he's always been, he's just older and, not shockingly, Manny and Arturo are/were not quite the same level of fighter. Castillo gave Floyd more trouble than Manny did, are we taking that into account? No, it's easier to talk about Gatti and the corpse of Sharmba Mitchell to make Floyd look bad now for only getting decisions over all time greats.

Roger Mayweather can say whatever he wants I suppose. He doesn't have to fight Manny Pacquiao.
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