GGG options sadly limited

[jujigatame]

What about Andy Lee? He unexpectedly escaped from the Quillin fight with his belt. He seems like the best option since Cotto and Quillin are unlikely to take the fight.

If Lara is moving up to 160 that's an excellent fight as well.

Andy Lee is injured and will have to face BJS (His Mandatory) Once he comes back. It is not a realistic Option, He will probably fight in september against BJS THEN if he beats him, By December it should be realistic to talk about lee vs Golovkin

Ndam vs Lemieux winner for me is also very unlikely, not because of GBP, But because they are fighting in June and Both Lemieux and Ndam are fighters that Fight 2 times Per Year.. Golovkin will fight next in September so thats 3 months After their title fight. Which I think Lemieux/Ndam will have a problem to agree. UNLESS the money is very big.

Ugh, goddamn mandatories. Is there anyone in the universe who wants to see Lee/Saunders more than Golovkin/Lee?

[koolkc107]

I have to disagree with the JamesMc's post above.

English boxing fans are some of the best and most knowledgeable in the world man for man.

They'd easily do great business at Wembley for a Froch/Golovkin bout, probably as good or better than his fight with Groves.

[Aaronide_ger]

Andy Lee is injured and will have to face BJS (His Mandatory) Once he comes back. It is not a realistic Option, He will probably fight in september against BJS THEN if he beats him, By December it should be realistic to talk about lee vs Golovkin

I agree with what you’re saying, but there is one potential spanner in the works, which is Al Haymon.

He may fund (by proxy) a rematch between Andy Lee and Peter Quillin… and as we’ve seen recently with the Sergey Kovalev/Adonis Stevenson situation, small promoters like Main Events & K2 don’t stand a hope in hell chance of outbidding Haymon’s massive war chest.

Andy Lee would probably rather engage in a highly lucrative rematch against a beatable Al Haymon-“advised” opponent like Peter Quillin than take less money to face a dangerous fighter like Golovkin.

I also believe that a Billy Joe Saunders vs. Andy Lee world title fight staged in Ireland (both are members of the travelling community), would greatly surpass any payday that K2 could offer either man to face Golovkin.

Even if Chris Eubank Jr. avenges his sole loss and successfully overcomes BJS during next months’ rematch, the Brighton lad would offer Andy Lee a greater payday than GGG would (as Saunders had previously declined a world title shot in preference to face Eubank Jr. for more money).

If I was Andy Lee, I’d go for the easier and more lucrative bouts against the likes of Peter Quillin, Chris Eubank Jr. or Billy Joe Saunders, rather than accept a relatively small payday to face Gennady Golovkin.

I agree with you for the most part, But Tom said this if u remember well:

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If this is true then it is highly realistic. If it is just a bluff then... F#ck Al Haymon

[Tanzio]

It "didn't have anything to do with" the fact that he muscled up to 193 and was never the same fighter when he returned to 175, shedding that extra 18 pounds of pure muscle? I do not dispute that RJJ's lack of fundamentals on defense (thanks to his amazing set of gifts) contributed to his downfall, but to decree that RJJ had "no issues" with weight is simply ignorant.

No, what's ignorant is for someone to claim that he got knocked out many times solely because of gaining and then losing weight, which is what I was addressing.

If weight was such an issue for him then why was he able to get back to 175 and still be competitive? He fought a couple of more times at LHW and did not appear drained and only got KO'd due to his lack of a fundamental defense.

Ignoring what you originally posted and randomly attempting to rewrite history won't win the argument, turB.

1. You claimed that Roy had "no issues" with weight. RJJ was undefeated at 175 before he decided to bulk up (to put it kindly) to 193 and fight Ruiz. Post Ruiz, when he had to cut back to his original, natural class, he went 6-7, getting ktfo multiple times. The evidence is heaped against your ridiculous decree.

2. You claim in your original post on this subject that RJJ is fighting until this day at 175 with no weight issues. RJJ has not fought at 175 since 2010.

Conclusion; you have little to no control of the feces you spew yet you feel it necessary to defend it, no matter how factually inaccurate and foul it might be and how much evidence is stacked against you.

You should act as though every random skid mark that you deface this forum with - like a dog with worms dragging his squirmy ass across the carpet - is performance art, and cease with your pathetic attempts to convince us you know of what you spew.

[ikorolev]

Hearn is wrong. Froch is popular enough to warrant PPV and fill a soccer stadium in England when facing GGG.

No he isn't. Froch has filled a football stadium once in his career, and that was for the rematch with Groves, after the first had huge buildup, countless press conferences, and a genuine grudge between the two men, resulting in several slanging matches.

Golovkin barely speaks English, and doesn't seem like the type to get all cocky anyway, he'd hardly be dynamite in press conferences, and there'd be no real needle. The fight wouldn't catch the imagination of the casual sports fan in the way Froch v Groves 2 did, and there's no way Froch is filling a football stadium otherwise, unless it was a farewell fight against another established star. Golovkin is a great fighter, but he's just not a star.

You live in the past tense. Golovkin is a star. He just drew more than JMM in South California. Froch and Sanchez can do most of build up talking with Golovkin calling Froch a "good boy". They can keep showing Golovkin's KOs to dummies who haven't heard about him and show experts discussing boxers' chances and strategies. They would fill a stadium in Nottinham with no problem.

[koolkc107]

You live in the past tense. Golovkin is a star. He just drew more than JMM in South California. Froch and Sanchez can do most of build up talking with Golovkin calling Froch a "good boy". They can keep showing Golovkin's KOs to dummies who haven't heard about him and show experts discussing boxers' chances and strategies. They would fill a stadium in Nottinham with no problem.

Here’s the deal… Carl Froch is capable of filling almost any stadium in the UK, as long as he faces any half-decent opponent… and his payday would still be pretty huge.

In terms of a potential GGG-Froch bout, you need to ask yourself these simple questions:
• Would GGG be content with receiving a bog-standard payday that any typical challenger would receive?
• Is GGG better known to British fight fans than (say) a former Olympic gold medallist like James DeGale or someone else of that ilk?
• Would the financials of a Froch-GGG bout facilitate Carl receiving a proportionately better payday that corresponds to the greater risk he’d be taking facing Golovkin?

I’d argue that Golovkin would like to command a bigger payday than the sums that George Groves or Mikkel Kessler received for facing Froch.

I personally don’t believe that GGG is an established name in the UK. Hard-core fight fans are in the minority, as it’s the mainstream casuals that fund these events. Golovkin’s notoriety would only have a trivial impact on PPV revenue or gate receipts’, assuming the bout is staged in the UK, as that’s where the money is.

If Carl Froch fought again, the payday he’d earn for facing Golovkin, would be pretty much be on a par with what he could earn facing someone like DeGale.

Therefore, I don’t believe it makes any “business” sense whatsoever for Froch to face Golovkin at this stage of his career.

If Froch decides to take the Golovkin bout, it’ll be for sporting reasons alone... and not motivated by financial gain, because he could earn similar or better money elsewhere.

Exactly.

Froch wants GGG not because he feels any pressure to prove himself- Carl's legacy as one of the great 168 lb fighters is already set in stone- but because he honestly wants to see what the Kazakh's got.

[benion]

I'm the Kazakhstan CAN man and anybody CAN get it from 154-168! Well only Floyd CAN get it at 154 but not Canelo, Cotto or Lara. JCC Jr CAN get it at 168 but not Ward. In 2012 I said Ward CAN get it in two years but it's been three years now the fight doesn't make economical sense. All these fighters who CAN get it are ducking me!

[ikorolev]

I'm the Kazakhstan CAN man and anybody CAN get it from 154-168! Well only Floyd CAN get it at 154 but not Canelo, Cotto or Lara. JCC Jr CAN get it at 168 but not Ward. In 2012 I said Ward CAN get it in two years but it's been three years now the fight doesn't make economical sense. All these fighters who CAN get it are ducking me!

When did GGG "write" it ? A few years ago when he would in fact take on anybody ? If not, cite the source. People who can speak English in GGG Team clearly state that he will go down or up only for a good money fight/ppv fight. Ward and Lara are certainly no candidates for ppv.

I am pretty sure that if Canelo or Cotto offer good money, Gennady would go down to 154 to face them. These guys themselves are not campaigning at 154 anymore, so most likely, it would be some crappy catch-weight like 155 or 157.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I have to disagree with the JamesMc's post above.

English boxing fans are some of the best and most knowledgeable in the world man for man.

They'd easily do great business at Wembley for a Froch/Golovkin bout, probably as good or better than his fight with Groves.

What utter rot! 'English boxing fans' are not capable of filling Wembley stadium.

To fill a venue like that, you need a fight to cross over into the mainstream beyond boxing fans, and to bring in the more general sports bods who like a big event, and will shell out to watch the fight. No sense hosting a fight at Wembley stadium just to have 20,000 empty seats. I guarantee you, no way would any big promoter risk hiring that venue to stage the fight. For one thing, there wouldn't be a Londoner involved, and London hasn't been a big fight city for a long time now.

Outside of the type of people on this forum, most sports fans haven't got a flying frigg of clue who Golovkin is.

People lose perspective because they are crazy about boxing, the reality is Golovkin is nothing like a crossover star yet - and until he is, no way is Froch selling out Wembley against Golovkin. Nor would he sell it out against Ward, I can't really think of anyone he could fight realistically that would enable him to fill it out - Hopkins? Even that I think is unlikely to sell out Wembley, though it would have a better chance

The fights with groves were highly unusual, and sold so well in major part, firstly because of the pre fight needle, and then because of the controversy over the 1st stoppage.

Could someone here explain why they think GGG is a big star now - based on what figures precisely? I just don't see any evidence. He is a rising figure, but nowhere near a major star in the sport.

I'm not saying that Froch v GGG couldn't do good numbers on PPV, I suspect it would, but as for selling out a humungous venue like Wembley, I just don't see it.

[jamesmcdonnell]

You live in the past tense. Golovkin is a star. He just drew more than JMM in South California. Froch and Sanchez can do most of build up talking with Golovkin calling Froch a "good boy". They can keep showing Golovkin's KOs to dummies who haven't heard about him and show experts discussing boxers' chances and strategies. They would fill a stadium in Nottinham with no problem.

Here’s the deal… Carl Froch is capable of filling almost any stadium in the UK, as long as he faces any half-decent opponent… and his payday would still be pretty huge.

In terms of a potential GGG-Froch bout, you need to ask yourself these simple questions:
• Would GGG be content with receiving a bog-standard payday that any typical challenger would receive?
• Is GGG better known to British fight fans than (say) a former Olympic gold medallist like James DeGale or someone else of that ilk?
• Would the financials of a Froch-GGG bout facilitate Carl receiving a proportionately better payday that corresponds to the greater risk he’d be taking facing Golovkin?

I’d argue that Golovkin would like to command a bigger payday than the sums that George Groves or Mikkel Kessler received for facing Froch.

I personally don’t believe that GGG is an established name in the UK. Hard-core fight fans are in the minority, as it’s the mainstream casuals that fund these events. Golovkin’s notoriety would only have a trivial impact on PPV revenue or gate receipts’, assuming the bout is staged in the UK, as that’s where the money is.

If Carl Froch fought again, the payday he’d earn for facing Golovkin, would be pretty much be on a par with what he could earn facing someone like DeGale.

Therefore, I don’t believe it makes any “business” sense whatsoever for Froch to face Golovkin at this stage of his career.

If Froch decides to take the Golovkin bout, it’ll be for sporting reasons alone... and not motivated by financial gain, because he could earn similar or better money elsewhere.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

[littlepug]

Golovkins still got time to make his mark his competition so far has been solid but not great although I think they stack up well against calzaghes early defences, a lot of champs don't have their career defining fights until well into their reign and I think golovkin will follow suit, if he can fight 4 or 5 top boys before he retires I think most will be happy with that.

[koolkc107]

I have to disagree with the JamesMc's post above.

English boxing fans are some of the best and most knowledgeable in the world man for man.

They'd easily do great business at Wembley for a Froch/Golovkin bout, probably as good or better than his fight with Groves.

What utter rot! 'English boxing fans' are not capable of filling Wembley stadium.

To fill a venue like that, you need a fight to cross over into the mainstream beyond boxing fans, and to bring in the more general sports bods who like a big event, and will shell out to watch the fight. No sense hosting a fight at Wembley stadium just to have 20,000 empty seats. I guarantee you, no way would any big promoter risk hiring that venue to stage the fight. For one thing, there wouldn't be a Londoner involved, and London hasn't been a big fight city for a long time now.

Outside of the type of people on this forum, most sports fans haven't got a flying frigg of clue who Golovkin is.

People lose perspective because they are crazy about boxing, the reality is Golovkin is nothing like a crossover star yet - and until he is, no way is Froch selling out Wembley against Golovkin. Nor would he sell it out against Ward, I can't really think of anyone he could fight realistically that would enable him to fill it out - Hopkins? Even that I think is unlikely to sell out Wembley, though it would have a better chance

The fights with groves were highly unusual, and sold so well in major part, firstly because of the pre fight needle, and then because of the controversy over the 1st stoppage.

Could someone here explain why they think GGG is a big star now - based on what figures precisely? I just don't see any evidence. He is a rising figure, but nowhere near a major star in the sport.

I'm not saying that Froch v GGG couldn't do good numbers on PPV, I suspect it would, but as for selling out a humungous venue like Wembley, I just don't see it.

Froch v Groves sold 80,000 seats.

Call it sold out or whatever you like.

Ward/Froch or Froch/ Golovkin does similar numbers.

That is the point.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I have to disagree with the JamesMc's post above.

English boxing fans are some of the best and most knowledgeable in the world man for man.

They'd easily do great business at Wembley for a Froch/Golovkin bout, probably as good or better than his fight with Groves.

What utter rot! 'English boxing fans' are not capable of filling Wembley stadium.

To fill a venue like that, you need a fight to cross over into the mainstream beyond boxing fans, and to bring in the more general sports bods who like a big event, and will shell out to watch the fight. No sense hosting a fight at Wembley stadium just to have 20,000 empty seats. I guarantee you, no way would any big promoter risk hiring that venue to stage the fight. For one thing, there wouldn't be a Londoner involved, and London hasn't been a big fight city for a long time now.

Outside of the type of people on this forum, most sports fans haven't got a flying frigg of clue who Golovkin is.

People lose perspective because they are crazy about boxing, the reality is Golovkin is nothing like a crossover star yet - and until he is, no way is Froch selling out Wembley against Golovkin. Nor would he sell it out against Ward, I can't really think of anyone he could fight realistically that would enable him to fill it out - Hopkins? Even that I think is unlikely to sell out Wembley, though it would have a better chance

The fights with groves were highly unusual, and sold so well in major part, firstly because of the pre fight needle, and then because of the controversy over the 1st stoppage.

Could someone here explain why they think GGG is a big star now - based on what figures precisely? I just don't see any evidence. He is a rising figure, but nowhere near a major star in the sport.

I'm not saying that Froch v GGG couldn't do good numbers on PPV, I suspect it would, but as for selling out a humungous venue like Wembley, I just don't see it.

Froch v Groves sold 80,000 seats.

Call it sold out or whatever you like.

Ward/Froch or Froch/ Golovkin does similar numbers.

That is the point.

Explain why you believe this to be so, - what is the similarity between the scenarios which allowed Froch v Groves II to become so big, and a fight between Froch and Ward, or Froch and Golovkin. There's almost zero similarities between the scenarios, aside from the fact they are all super middleweight fighters.

Can you not grasp the concept that not all fights capture the public imagination in the same way.

If it was based on actual standings, Froch v Groves should never have done well at all, Groves was almost unknown outside of the UK at the time, and wasn't even that well known inside it, - it was only the fact that it was two british fighters who clearly despised one another, that got the media and then the public interested.

Froch is going to do decent numbers now whoever he fights as he's become a big name in boxing through long years of effort. however, neither Golovkin nor Ward are going to do much to enhance the number of fights he sells - the idea that he does Is pure fantasy and wishful thinking, there's nothing to in Golovkin's numbers to suggest he's a huge draw in the U.S, let alone in the UK, so what are you basing this on.

I like what I've seen of Golovkin, and he may go on to become a big star, though he hasn't got much time to do so, but he's nowhere even close yet.

[punchoutsb]

Question for those of you who know or suspect I am someone else posting under this SN: If you are wrong, doesn't that say a whole lot more about you and your lack of perception than anything else?

If everyone who holds similar views is actually the same person, that means there are only about 4 or 5 posters here, doesn't it?

Can't any of you holding this view realize how juvenile it is and how much you are amusing all of us?

No one suspects you're brut because of your opinion, but rather because you stole a writing quirk of his that I have never seen anyone else use...ever. No one thinks capitalizing the "ASS" in assume or assumption or whatever is cool except brut/kbb...and now you.

Can you see where we're coming from?

You should post with just one username. No need for alts

[Butterbean]

Froch also sold out stadiums kessler 2 and groves 1. Bute also did quite well number wise. Amazing fights all of them by the way...
Someone would get seriously hurt if they fought. Big fan of both, not sure if id fancy it thoug.

[Butterbean]

Best dizz ever:

Conclusion; you have little to no control of the feces you spew yet you feel it necessary to defend it, no matter how factually inaccurate and foul it might be and how much evidence is stacked against you.

You should act as though every random skid mark that you deface this forum with - like a dog with worms dragging his squirmy ass across the carpet - is performance art, and cease with your pathetic attempts to convince us you know of what you spew.

Amazing, should be everyones signature. Really
It just wont ever be the same again. Thank you. Really

[crusader]

Question for those of you who know or suspect I am someone else posting under this SN: If you are wrong, doesn't that say a whole lot more about you and your lack of perception than anything else?

If everyone who holds similar views is actually the same person, that means there are only about 4 or 5 posters here, doesn't it?

Can't any of you holding this view realize how juvenile it is and how much you are amusing all of us?

No one suspects you're brut because of your opinion, but rather because you stole a writing quirk of his that I have never seen anyone else use...ever. No one thinks capitalizing the "ASS" in assume or assumption or whatever is cool except brut/kbb...and now you.

Can you see where we're coming from?

You should post with just one username. No need for alts

Well said. I guess he lacked the perception to notice that

[littlepug]

Golovkins still got time to make his mark his competition so far has been solid but not great although I think they stack up well against calzaghes early defences...

I did a quick comparison of the first fourteen world title fights that Joe Calzaghe & Gennady Golovkin has competed in and the Brit appears to have faced the vastly superior opponents during the equivalent stage of his career:

Joe Calzaghe:
• Chris Eubank – Competed in 24 world title fights in three weight divisions. Held the WBO middleweight and super-middleweight titles, scoring victories over the likes of Nigel Benn & Michael Watson.
• Robin Reid – Competed in eight world title fights, winning five of them and captured the WBC super-middleweight title along the way.
• Richie Woodhall – A former holder of the WBC world super-middleweight title, competed in six world title fights, with his only losses at 168lbs against Marcus Beyer and Joe Calzaghe.
• Charles Brewer – Held the IBF World super middleweight title, competed in seven world title fights and lost three of them.
• Byron Mitchell – A two-time holder of the WBA World super middleweight title and was defeated in three of his eight championship bouts.

Gennady Golovkin:
• Kassim Ouma – Held the IBF World super welterweight title, which is a weight division below GGG’s 160lb weight class, making just one single successful defence and was subsequently defeated in his next three world championship bouts. Prior to his bout with Golovkin, had tasted defeat in five of his seven previous fights, with both victories against anonymous names.
• Daniel Geale – Competed in seven world title fights, winning five of them, held both the IBF & WBA Super World middleweight titles, scoring victories over the likes of Anthony Mundine & Felix Sturm, losing his world title to the lightly-regarded Darren Barker the year prior to the Golovkin bout.

In terms of GGG’s fourteen world title fights, he’s competing in an era, whereby casual fans somehow recognise junior belts (i.e. “regular”) as legitimate championships, which just seems nonsense to me. After all, if the WBA didn’t recognise GGG as their main “real” world champion, then why should we?

Fair enough although I do think golovins worst challengers aren't as bad as some of calzaghes worst but anyway if golovkin can add 4 or 5 top names to his resume we can start talking about him in all time rankings IMO

[koolkc107]

Question for those of you who know or suspect I am someone else posting under this SN: If you are wrong, doesn't that say a whole lot more about you and your lack of perception than anything else?

If everyone who holds similar views is actually the same person, that means there are only about 4 or 5 posters here, doesn't it?

Can't any of you holding this view realize how juvenile it is and how much you are amusing all of us?

No one suspects you're brut because of your opinion, but rather because you stole a writing quirk of his that I have never seen anyone else use...ever. No one thinks capitalizing the "ASS" in assume or assumption or whatever is cool except brut/kbb...and now you.

Can you see where we're coming from?

You should post with just one username. No need for alts

Actually, no I can't see where you are coming from.

What I do see is a couple of folks so crestfallen at things that they are grasping at straws.

This quirk you speak of is not novel.

I have seen it used many times by different individuals across all spectrums of the net and reality.

It is a common device.

Reliance upon so little to make such an assertion is pretty lame.

But, think what you will. I will continue to be amused.

Besides, from what I've seen, KBB is more accurate than many of you.

So being mistaken for him is no big deal to me.

[punchoutsb]

Actually, no I can't see where you are coming from.

What I do see is a couple of folks so crestfallen at things that they are grasping at straws.

This quirk you speak of is not novel.

I have seen it used many times by different individuals across all spectrums of the net and reality.

It is a common device.

Reliance upon so little to make such an assertion is pretty lame.

But, think what you will. I will continue to be amused.

Besides, from what I've seen, KBB is more accurate than many of you.

So being mistaken for him is no big deal to me.

1. I've never seen it anywhere except kbb/brut and you.

2. You post in the exact same style as him. The same style of paragraph breaks, same wordage, etc.

3. No one think KBB is more accurate than anyone.

This evidence can only lead to the conclusion that you're a third. It's all cool, I've made my peace with you already and don't want to get drawn back in to the negativity of arguing on a boxing forum. You should step back a bit yourself. Making accounts to agree with yourself isn't a very positive way to spend your free time.

[KBB]

It "didn't have anything to do with" the fact that he muscled up to 193 and was never the same fighter when he returned to 175, shedding that extra 18 pounds of pure muscle? I do not dispute that RJJ's lack of fundamentals on defense (thanks to his amazing set of gifts) contributed to his downfall, but to decree that RJJ had "no issues" with weight is simply ignorant.

No, what's ignorant is for someone to claim that he got knocked out many times solely because of gaining and then losing weight, which is what I was addressing.

If weight was such an issue for him then why was he able to get back to 175 and still be competitive? He fought a couple of more times at LHW and did not appear drained and only got KO'd due to his lack of a fundamental defense.

Ignoring what you originally posted and randomly attempting to rewrite history won't win the argument, turB.

1. You claimed that Roy had "no issues" with weight. RJJ was undefeated at 175 before he decided to bulk up (to put it kindly) to 193 and fight Ruiz. Post Ruiz, when he had to cut back to his original, natural class, he went 6-7, getting ktfo multiple times. The evidence is heaped against your ridiculous decree.

2. You claim in your original post on this subject that RJJ is fighting until this day at 175 with no weight issues. RJJ has not fought at 175 since 2010.

Conclusion; you have little to no control of the feces you spew yet you feel it necessary to defend it, no matter how factually inaccurate and foul it might be and how much evidence is stacked against you.

You should act as though every random skid mark that you deface this forum with - like a dog with worms dragging his squirmy ass across the carpet - is performance art, and cease with your pathetic attempts to convince us you know of what you spew.

When I was addressing Vicky's assumption that weight was ultimately what made Jones fail, I used the words "it didn't have anything to do with it", which I will stand by that fact. If you want to take that as a literal translation to mean "everything" then that is your own business but you are doing just what he did (ASSuming) that I literally meant "everything" when I was really only addressing his assumption.

All the rest of the venom you spit was just out of your personal dislike of me for which I will candidly ignore (for the moment) but don't get it twisted between what I actually meant when I said "anything" to assume it meant "everything" as you are implying.

[ikorolev]

1. I've never seen it anywhere except kbb/brut and you.

2. You post in the exact same style as him. The same style of paragraph breaks, same wordage, etc.

3. No one think KBB is more accurate than anyone.

This evidence can only lead to the conclusion that you're a third. It's all cool, I've made my peace with you already and don't want to get drawn back in to the negativity of arguing on a boxing forum. You should step back a bit yourself. Making accounts to agree with yourself isn't a very positive way to spend your free time.

+1 KBB is polluting this forum.

[Chepppaaa]

to me its simple, he gonne keep knocking guys out and soon he is going to be so famous and so much money is going to be involved that promoter and fighters will want to face him because of cash. maybe it will be 1, maybe 2 years, but he is going to face quality. canelo is big and is not gonne stay forever at 154. than there is lara who is open for everything. things gonne happen.

[koolkc107]

Actually, no I can't see where you are coming from.

What I do see is a couple of folks so crestfallen at things that they are grasping at straws.

This quirk you speak of is not novel.

I have seen it used many times by different individuals across all spectrums of the net and reality.

It is a common device.

Reliance upon so little to make such an assertion is pretty lame.

But, think what you will. I will continue to be amused.

Besides, from what I've seen, KBB is more accurate than many of you.

So being mistaken for him is no big deal to me.

1. I've never seen it anywhere except kbb/brut and you.

2. You post in the exact same style as him. The same style of paragraph breaks, same wordage, etc.

3. No one think KBB is more accurate than anyone.

This evidence can only lead to the conclusion that you're a third. It's all cool, I've made my peace with you already and don't want to get drawn back in to the negativity of arguing on a boxing forum. You should step back a bit yourself. Making accounts to agree with yourself isn't a very positive way to spend your free time.

If that is the case, if that's the only place you have seen that...you need to get out more.

But, as I have already said, it is quite amusing to see myopia so bad folks start rejecting common sense.

And KBB has been more accurate than many of you.

Look how many idiots on this forum think the big fight was close.

More in this one place than I can find ANYWHERE else.

If anyone had the right to assume someone else is posting under multiple names, it is me.

I mean, it is rare to see otherwise intelligent folk ignore reality and agree on the same idiocy.

But it is what it is.

[punchoutsb]

If that is the case, if that's the only place you have seen that...you need to get out more.

But, as I have already said, it is quite amusing to see myopia so bad folks start rejecting common sense.

And KBB has been more accurate than many of you.

Look how many idiots on this forum think the big fight was close.

More in this one place than I can find ANYWHERE else.

If anyone had the right to assume someone else is posting under multiple names, it is me.

I mean, it is rare to see otherwise intelligent folk ignore reality and agree on the same idiocy.

But it is what it is.

I get out quite frequently. I mean, I'm not the one with multiple accounts on boxrec hyping the accuracy of my other accounts

You should really abide by the rules and only post with one account. And at least try not to make all your kbb/koolkc107 posts at the same time. That's another obvious giveaway.