Cotto vs Geale

Cotto vs Geale

Cotto KO/TKO/DQ
21
27%
Cotto Decision
32
41%
Geale KO/TKO/DQ
6
8%
Geale Decision
19
24%
 
Total votes: 78

koolkc107
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by koolkc107 »

Easy fight for Cotto.

Miguel by stoppage inside 4.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by ikorolev »

koolkc107 wrote:Easy fight for Cotto.

Miguel by stoppage inside 4.
Ha-ha-ha. He couldn't even stop one-legged Martinez inside 4.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Perseus »

This is a good fight and opportunity for both.
Cotto needs to know if he can handle a real middleweight whose legs are not failing him in the ring.
THis fight should answer that question.
If he can't beat Geale he never belonged in a ring with GGG anyway.

As for Geale this is basically a gift dropped right in his lap..........Cotto is the A side and could have chosen somebody else.
The opportunity comes with huge risk though.
A win brings the WBC belt and the linear championship, sure some people will say be beat a shopworn welterweight but that doesn't take away his belt or linear standing.
A loss pretty much sends him to "opponent" status.

Cotto is clearly past his best and the naturally smaller man here but his camp obviously sees Geale as a legit middleweight that is beatable or they just would not have picked him.
Geale is a bit shopworn himself and has been in his share of ring wars too.

Based on styles I think this is going to be an entertaining fight
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Like a Boss »

Perseus wrote:This is a good fight and opportunity for both.
Cotto needs to know if he can handle a real middleweight whose legs are not failing him in the ring.
THis fight should answer that question.
If he can't beat Geale he never belonged in a ring with GGG anyway.

As for Geale this is basically a gift dropped right in his lap..........Cotto is the A side and could have chosen somebody else.
The opportunity comes with huge risk though.
A win brings the WBC belt and the linear championship, sure some people will say be beat a shopworn welterweight but that doesn't take away his belt or linear standing.
A loss pretty much sends him to "opponent" status.

Cotto is clearly past his best and the naturally smaller man here but his camp obviously sees Geale as a legit middleweight that is beatable or they just would not have picked him.
Geale is a bit shopworn himself and has been in his share of ring wars too.

Based on styles I think this is going to be an entertaining fight
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by diddy »

Geale is a massive underdog. Cotto is a 1-7 favorite. The catchweight and fight in Cotto's adopted backyard don't help Geale any.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by jezzamundo »

The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

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jezzamundo wrote:The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
If it made "zero difference" the fight would be at the proper MW limit.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by ikorolev »

Tanzio wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
If it made "zero difference" the fight would be at the proper MW limit.
Cotto and Roach were hoping that it would make a difference, but it looks like they were wrong.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Tanzio »

ikorolev wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
If it made "zero difference" the fight would be at the proper MW limit.
Cotto and Roach were hoping that it would make a difference, but it looks like they were wrong.
I hope so, although I have always liked Cotto.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

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diddy wrote:
sucracristo wrote:
diddy wrote:Imagine with Demetrius Andrade would do to Cotto.
get ktfo?
Image
Oh yes because getting knocked down early in his career
that pic was taken 18 months ago and he has only had one fight since then against brian rose
of all people. 2 of the judges had that vanes fight very close, with one giving it to vanes,
and you're saying "imagine what andrade would do to cotto". your imagination is fantasyland.
cotto would be andrade's best opponent of his entire career and probably knock him out.
why is andrade being made out to be this superhero? other than a close win over vanes,
what has andrade done in his career? take vanes off andrade's record and what would cotto's
last 15 opponents including geale do to every other opponent on andrade's record? it would
be a knockout festival. before andrade actually does something impressive to someone of note,
i don't want to hear "imagine what andrade would do" to anyone decent. you're dreamin.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Badhusker »

I guess if I was smart I would go change my pick of Geale beating Cotto by SD, but what the hell. Not like I am losing money or anything. Way too much money that will change hands in the future if Cotto wins, so won't be surprised if he does. I won't be the smart guy if Geale wins either - just the dumb guy that gambled on his prediction.

Cotto doesn't belong at middleweight, (not sure Geale does either?) and there are probably more light middles than can beat him. To be honest I can think of 3 or 4 for sure at 154 that would spank him, not including Trout, who already did. I guess when your skill fades, you can still make money on your established name.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

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Tanzio wrote:
macaca wrote:Boring fight, hate Cotto, Danny is past it as is Miguel.
:lol:
:confused:
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by diddy »

jezzamundo wrote:The catchweight should make zero difference in this fight, especially now that Geale weighed 158lb 30 days before the fight. I don't think Geale has ever been a drainer, he's 5'10" and not particularly muscular, he really could have fought his career at 154lb if he had wanted to.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by sucracristo »

even if cotto gets past geale, no way he honors the mandatory vs GGG and he
probably just takes K9's 154 title and then you have an easy defense before the
canelo fight. i don't see how lara or andrade would be worth any more to him
as opponents than just defending against anyone at the bottom of the top 15 for
the same money. vanes or charlo or rematches with clottey or trout probably
wouldn't bring him much more money than just picking easier guys, so he's just
going to take a title at 154 and wait for canelo with a few easy defenses, then retire.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by macaca »

Cotto beat a broken Martinez, no idea how the dick has the following he has, not interested in him one bit, nor Geale for that matter, both shot. Would love to see Canelo pulverize Cotto though, it will not happen in my opinion due to Cotto being a greedy scared shot pensioner
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Tanzio »

macaca wrote:Cotto beat a broken Martinez, no idea how the dick has the following he has, not interested in him one bit, nor Geale for that matter, both shot. Would love to see Canelo pulverize Cotto though, it will not happen in my opinion due to Cotto being a greedy scared shot pensioner
Bitter much?

Cotto scared? Pragmatic would be more accurate. Now it is his fault that SMartinez was utterly shot? I am absolutely certain that Sergio is extremely thankful that Cotto came up in weight making a large payday possible.

I don't like catch weight bvllsh!t, no matter who perpetrates it, but who has faced a tougher career of fights than Miguel?

I am absolutely convinced that these two will put on an exponentially superior fight than that choreographed dance exhibition masquerading as a mega fight.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

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sucracristo wrote:even if cotto gets past geale, no way he honors the mandatory vs GGG and he
probably just takes K9's 154 title and then you have an easy defense before the
canelo fight. i don't see how lara or andrade would be worth any more to him
as opponents than just defending against anyone at the bottom of the top 15 for
the same money. vanes or charlo or rematches with clottey or trout probably
wouldn't bring him much more money than just picking easier guys, so he's just
going to take a title at 154 and wait for canelo with a few easy defenses, then retire.
Cotto isn't silly enough to fight GGG.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Ricky_ »

diddy wrote:Geale is a massive underdog. Cotto is a 1-7 favorite. The catchweight and fight in Cotto's adopted backyard don't help Geale any.

I'm surprised Geale is such a big dog here, he's a solid, bonafide middleweight. The catchweight is something of a curveball, I think Geale might struggle with it, looking at his rec he usualy makes weight by about 1/4lb. If this fight was at the 160 limit, i'd say the size advantage would make it pretty even, as there is no doubt Cotto is the better p4p fighter.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by david1963 »

While the catchweight is obviously intended to handicap the natural middleweight, Geale will win this one easily. The same could be said for any middleweight ranked in the top 30 who has two functioning arms and legs. Cotto does not belong in the middleweight division and that's why he's avoided defending his title for so long. There's a fairly long list of light middleweights who would deal with Cotto quite easily, too.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by diddy »

david1963 wrote:While the catchweight is obviously intended to handicap the natural middleweight, Geale will win this one easily. The same could be said for any middleweight ranked in the top 30 who has two functioning arms and legs. Cotto does not belong in the middleweight division and that's why he's avoided defending his title for so long. There's a fairly long list of light middleweights who would deal with Cotto quite easily, too.
The 7-1 dog will win easily. Sure. Sure he will.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Bobbyptsd »

I mentioned this in another thread, but if it's close at all, I have a hard time seeing Gale leave with the title.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by amwsnw »

diddy wrote:
david1963 wrote:While the catchweight is obviously intended to handicap the natural middleweight, Geale will win this one easily. The same could be said for any middleweight ranked in the top 30 who has two functioning arms and legs. Cotto does not belong in the middleweight division and that's why he's avoided defending his title for so long. There's a fairly long list of light middleweights who would deal with Cotto quite easily, too.
The 7-1 dog will win easily. Sure. Sure he will.
I'm confident Geale can win 8 rounds in this, whether he gets the decison is another question. Diddy, what's your prediction instead of mocking others?
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Like a Boss »

Bobbyptsd wrote:I mentioned this in another thread, but if it's close at all, I have a hard time seeing Gale leave with the title.
Hard to argue that. Geale will need to be aggressive, and I'm sure he's smart enough to know that.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by Like a Boss »

Like a Boss wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:I mentioned this in another thread, but if it's close at all, I have a hard time seeing Gale leave with the title.
Hard to argue that. Geale will need to be aggressive and dominant, and I'm sure he's smart enough to know that.
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Re: Cotto vs Geale

Post by david1963 »

diddy wrote:
david1963 wrote:While the catchweight is obviously intended to handicap the natural middleweight, Geale will win this one easily. The same could be said for any middleweight ranked in the top 30 who has two functioning arms and legs. Cotto does not belong in the middleweight division and that's why he's avoided defending his title for so long. There's a fairly long list of light middleweights who would deal with Cotto quite easily, too.
The 7-1 dog will win easily. Sure. Sure he will.
Easy money for you, then.
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