Alexander Povetkin vs. Deontay Wilder

[Freedom2013]

If this happens, what's your prediction?

[Freedom2013]

Poll added.

[Freedom2013]

I think it's a 60-40 fight with Povetkin the more likely winner, partly due to his experience fighting a better level of competition.

[Tony1244]

I chickened out and voted "Difficult to predict," but a draw would shock me. So would a Povetkin decision.

Most likely outcomes in order, and yes I'm pulling this out of my dairyair.

1) Povekin win by KO/TKO

2) Wilder win by KO/TKO

3) Wilder decision.

[Like a Boss]

Could go either way. But unlikely to go the distance.

[Chepppaaa]

wilder straight up knocks him out, i cant believe how overrated povetkin is in here

[Bobbyptsd]

wilder straight up knocks him out, i cant believe how overrated povetkin is in here

[hurricanemitch14]

I think it matters u lands first. Neither guy is made from granite. Wilder is still a huge ?. ..... Povetkin has looked really good since Wlad.

[davie]

For me Povetkin is still comfortably the 2nd best heavyweight in the world and has been for some time.

If he was 2 or 3 inches taller he'd be outstanding and a real threat to Wlad IMO


I'm basing this opinion entirely on the basis that Chepppaaa thinks he's overrated....

[Chepppaaa]

povetkin is 6'2 heavyweight, who struggled and was close to losing against an cruiserweight?

do you guys realy believe that wilder is going to be the nex victim?

charr was an untrained chubby
takam is okay, but nowhere good
perez simply lost his soul in the mago fight

these 3 are by far no comparison to an 6'7 heavy hitter with a ko ratio of 96 %, with a strong jab and good skills. also, he showed in the stiverne fight that he can take a punch.
povetkin vs wilder would be wlad-povetkin all over, just with the difference that wilder would go for the kill and finish him and not hold all day.
stiverne and povetkin are prety much on the same level, same size, both solid skills and good power and stiverne lost like every damn round against wilder. povetkin has no chance.

[punchoutsb]

povetkin is 6'2 heavyweight, who struggled and was close to losing against an cruiserweight?

do you guys realy believe that wilder is going to be the nex victim?

charr was an untrained chubby
takam is okay, but nowhere good
perez simply lost his soul in the mago fight

these 3 are by far no comparison to an 6'7 heavy hitter with a ko ratio of 96 %, with a strong jab and good skills. also, he showed in the stiverne fight that he can take a punch.
povetkin vs wilder would be wlad-povetkin all over, just with the difference that wilder would go for the kill and finish him and not hold all day.
stiverne and povetkin are prety much on the same level, same size, both solid skills and good power and stiverne lost like every damn round against wilder. povetkin has no chance.

This post is so bad I had to wipe my hard drive and uninstall my operating system to avoid my computer catching anything from it. Bravo.

[davie]

povetkin is 6'2 heavyweight, who struggled and was close to losing against an cruiserweight?

do you guys realy believe that wilder is going to be the nex victim?

charr was an untrained chubby
takam is okay, but nowhere good
perez simply lost his soul in the mago fight

these 3 are by far no comparison to an 6'7 heavy hitter with a ko ratio of 96 %, with a strong jab and good skills. also, he showed in the stiverne fight that he can take a punch.
povetkin vs wilder would be wlad-povetkin all over, just with the difference that wilder would go for the kill and finish him and not hold all day.
stiverne and povetkin are prety much on the same level, same size, both solid skills and good power and stiverne lost like every damn round against wilder. povetkin has no chance.

You were compiling a reasonable (but flawed) argument until the bit in bold

Povetkin stands Stiverne on his head mate.
Stiverne is the only live opponent Wilder has ever faced and, as creditable a performance it was, it in no way tells you how Deontay would cope with Povetkin.
If you are going to compare Stiverne to anyone I'd say Charr, Takam and Perez are each a closer comparison than Povetkin

don't pick Povetkins opponents as evidence as how he would cope with wilder, it's an especially empty argument when you take a quick scan of the utter dearth of talent that Wilder has faced in his career

[davie]

This post is so bad I had to wipe my hard drive and uninstall my operating system to avoid my computer catching anything from it. Bravo.

I was trying to be more diplomatic.
But you probably nailed it

[cold187]

according to pivetkin promoter, they may not even fight wilder next but have another regular non title fight.
if so hope a quick turn around

[Butterbean]

The reach and power of wilder coulb pose to be quite a challenge to povetkin i think.

[Tony1244]

This post is so bad I had to wipe my hard drive and uninstall my operating system to avoid my computer catching anything from it. Bravo.

I was trying to be more diplomatic.
But you probably nailed it

This post is only bad if it's proven to be wrong. He was right about Takam and Perez. If Wilder ends up being the real deal, then the post is quite good. Only time will tell on this one.

[Bobbyptsd]

povetkin is 6'2 heavyweight, who struggled and was close to losing against an cruiserweight?

do you guys realy believe that wilder is going to be the nex victim?

charr was an untrained chubby
takam is okay, but nowhere good
perez simply lost his soul in the mago fight

these 3 are by far no comparison to an 6'7 heavy hitter with a ko ratio of 96 %, with a strong jab and good skills. also, he showed in the stiverne fight that he can take a punch.
povetkin vs wilder would be wlad-povetkin all over, just with the difference that wilder would go for the kill and finish him and not hold all day.
stiverne and povetkin are prety much on the same level, same size, both solid skills and good power and stiverne lost like every damn round against wilder. povetkin has no chance.

That certainly was a bunch of words, I'll give you that.

Now imagine if you made the same analysis of Wilder's record, huh?

If Takam is ''nowhere good'', what does that make Malik Scott?

[dempseyfire]

Povetkin would knock him out, but Haymon will not put Deontay near him.

[PsychoGamerTwo]

Last time Wilder fought a russian, he got knocked out. This one wont end differently...

[punchoutsb]

This post is so bad I had to wipe my hard drive and uninstall my operating system to avoid my computer catching anything from it. Bravo.

I was trying to be more diplomatic.
But you probably nailed it

This post is only bad if it's proven to be wrong. He was right about Takam and Perez. If Wilder ends up being the real deal, then the post is quite good. Only time will tell on this one.

Takam and Perez are solid heavyweights. Saying they're "not good" is incorrect. Comparing Povetkin and Stiverne is akin to saying the KKK and the Peace Corps are the same organization because they're both organizations.

[davie]

This post is so bad I had to wipe my hard drive and uninstall my operating system to avoid my computer catching anything from it. Bravo.

I was trying to be more diplomatic.
But you probably nailed it

This post is only bad if it's proven to be wrong. He was right about Takam and Perez. If Wilder ends up being the real deal, then the post is quite good. Only time will tell on this one.

If Wilder is the real deal we have a fight on our hand. As Povetkin is very much the real deal in my opinion.

If Wilder proves the doubters wrong, which he may well do and proves he is a top heavyweight, then it still no guarantee he beats Povetkin..

The point here is Wilder resume does virtually nothing to prove he is anything other than a decent fighter with a big punch, who has smashed up some substandard opposition. He may prove in the future that he is, in fact, more than that when he steps up in level. But for now that is unproven and therefore stil up for question

Povetkin has proven himself at a higher level against consistantly better opposition and merits his place, IMO, as no2 behind Wlad.

The Klitschko fight itself even speaks volumes to me about Povetkins threat.
Yes it was one sided, but the very fact that Wlad chose to spoil so much told me how worried he was about the threat Povetkin posed. He never stood toe to toe the way he did with Pulev because he knew what Povetkin was capable if he got into range and got his shots off.

[Tony1244]

Takam and Perez are solid heavyweights. Saying they're "not good" is incorrect. Comparing Povetkin and Stiverne is akin to saying the KKK and the Peace Corps are the same organization because they're both organizations.[/quote]>>>punchoutsb

I don't think it's quite saying that, but I'd certainly rate Povetkin MUCH higher than Stiverne. I said in another post that Povetkin is the undisputed #1 ranked contender. Takam and Perez are solid HWs. Some people call a fighter "not good" if they're not great, and I've fallen into that trap myself. Malik Scott, Liakovich, and Stiverne are also solid heavyweights, albeit Liakovich was passed his prime when Wilder stopped him.

Povetkin-Wilder is an intriguing matchup because we don't know what would happen, unlike May-Pac, who I told anyone who would listen that May will win a boring decision.

[Badhusker]

Last time Wilder fought a russian, he got knocked out. This one wont end differently...

And when was that? In the amateurs 8 or 10 years ago? Please.....if we put stock on those results there wouldn't need to be anywhere near as many pro fights, would there?

[marvelous marv]

Povetkin isn't exactly known for defense. So your telling me a smallish type heavy is gonna beat a guy taller than Klitschko who cracks hard? I will be surprised if he gets past the 6th round. This is an easy fight to predict in my book. I get that people don't like Wilder's affiliation with Haymon but objectively you have to give him some credit.

[crusader]

What a rigorous analysis.

Wilder is taller than Povetkin and can punch, so people must be picking Povetkin because they have a problem with Al Haymon.