Best Amateur Record?

[locoxelbox]

will anyone ever match irelands katie taylors record

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Taylor

Well Katie Taylor has:

1 Olympic gold
4 World Championships gold
5 European Championships gold

Felix Savon has:

3 Olympic gold
6 World Championships gold
4 World Cup gold
3 Pan American Games gold
1 World Youth Championships gold
3 Goodwill Games gold

will anyone ever match cubas Felix Savons record?

[BARNEYKX]

will anyone ever match irelands katie taylors record

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Taylor

Well Katie Taylor has:

1 Olympic gold
4 World Championships gold
5 European Championships gold

Felix Savon has:

3 Olympic gold
6 World Championships gold
4 World Cup gold



3 Pan American Games gold
1 World Youth Championships gold
3 Goodwill Games gold

will anyone ever match cubas Felix Savons record?

Katie Taylor

Statistics
Rated at Lightweight
Height 5 ft 5 in (1.65 m)
Nationality Ireland
Born 2 June 1986 (age 26)[1]
Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland
Stance Orthodox
Medal record[hide]
Competitor for Ireland
Women's Boxing
Summer Olympics
Gold 2012 London Women's lightweight
World Amateur Championships
Gold 2006 New Delhi 60 kg
Gold 2008 Ningbo 60 kg
Gold 2010 Barbados 60 kg
Gold 2012 Qinhuangdao 60 kg
European Amateur Championships
Gold 2005 Tønsberg 60 kg
Gold 2006 Warsaw 60 kg
Gold 2007 Vejle 60 kg
Gold 2009 Mykolaiv 60 kg
Gold 2011 Rotterdam 60 kg
European Union Amateur Championships
Gold 2008 Liverpool 60 kg
Gold 2009 Pazardzhik 60 kg
Gold 2010 Keszthely 60 kg
Gold 2011 Katowice 60 kg


2 GREAT RECORDS THERE YOUR MAN HAS IT, BUT KATIE HAS PLENTY OF TIME YET

[sucracristo]

will anyone ever match irelands katie taylors record

katie is a great amateur woman boxer, but how many weight classes were there in the olympics on the women's side? 3 or 4?
women's boxing is still in its infancy at this stage, with a relatively small pool of athletes, so can't really put her in the same category as savon or stevenson or the greats, no matter how many titles she wins. that is not to put down women's boxing or women athletes, but i would say that in tennis girls around the world start really young and put a lot of time into it and maybe the top women don't have the same power as the top guys but the skills are all there at the top level. women's boxing still has a long way to go. love katie, though. marlen esparza was fun to watch this year, too.

if you just go by this last olympics, lomachenko from the ukraine had a silver from the 2007 worlds, golds at the 2009 and 2011 worlds, and olympic golds in 2008 and 2012. sapiev from kazakhstan won golds at the worlds in 2005 and 2007 and 2012 olympic gold. zou zhiming has golds from the 2005 and 2007 worlds and 2008 and 2012 olympic gold. i think somluck kamsing from thailand was in 4 olympics with a gold in atlanta, so in asia and eastern europe you have guys who spend their whole careers as "amateurs" fighting all the international tournaments against the best in the world and have world and olympic gold medals and in the west people don't even know their names

[Nile4000]

Either Oscar, or Donald Curry.

[domdel]

Vasil lomachenko 396-1

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Human:659771

[marcin.j.]

Vasyl Lomachenko has perhaps the best record of them all: 396- 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyl_Loma ... ite_note-4

[Tarkus]

1. Shimming - 2x Olympic, 3x World
2. Lomachenko - 2x Olympic, 2x World
3. Rigondeaux - 2x Olympic, 2x World

It is all about the titles not win lose ratio.

Savon - 3x Olympic, 6x World
Stevenson - 3x Olympic, 3x World

[BARNEYKX]

DICK McTEGGART

won 610 of his 634 amateur bouts.
A great record no doubt

[Dancin' Dan]

Hilton brothers had great amateur records. Believe Matthew was 106-0. Too bad their family life was such a train wreck. Matthew was the first champ Canadian to win a world title since the 40s though....beating Benitez, Anterfuermo and Drayton to name a few.

[mrboxhist]

Ingemar Johansson was 74 (63-11, 30 KO), not as stated above.
See my database for Swedish Amateurboxing http://www.mrboxhist.se/boxare/ingemar-johansson/

[palooka]

I've seen the bout between Curry and a Swedish kid, Curry is beating the lad easily and gets cut and loses.

Luke Campbell has a good record.

[stevedoc]

McTaggart competed at two Olympic games as a Lightweight (1956, 1960), and one as a Light welterweight (1964). McTaggart won the gold medal in 1956, and was awarded the Val Barker Trophy, as the games outstanding boxer. He won the bronze medal in 1960, and was eliminated in the 3rd round in 1964. McTaggart was also a five-time ABA champion (1956, 1958, 1960, 1963 and 1965). McTaggart purportedly won 610 of his 634 amateur bouts.

that's what i was going to type

[palooka]

McTaggart competed at two Olympic games as a Lightweight (1956, 1960), and one as a Light welterweight (1964). McTaggart won the gold medal in 1956, and was awarded the Val Barker Trophy, as the games outstanding boxer. He won the bronze medal in 1960, and was eliminated in the 3rd round in 1964. McTaggart was also a five-time ABA champion (1956, 1958, 1960, 1963 and 1965). McTaggart purportedly won 610 of his 634 amateur bouts.

that's what i was going to type

when I saw it i thought it was one of yours Steve

[orbtastic]

Breland had a great ama career, so many knockouts too.

[palooka]

What was Errol Christie's record?
Has Kindelan been forgotten?
I bet Amir Khan had some record too.
Shaun Gray was 32-3 with 28 KOs - 2 of the losses to Sam Boreham, avenged with a first round KO - its a very good record because for 4 years Gray boxed only in national title shows, no club shows - retired at 17 years old.
George Collins had a great record.

[TheWigwam]

This may be common knowledge that has somehow slipped past me, but how are these records kept? Is it just from the individual's memory or is there a physical record etc..? Does anyone know how it works?

Thanks

[Boxing Prospect]

Wasn't Harry Mallin 300-0 or something? 2 time Olympic champion and (one of?) the most successful amateur(s) in British boxing history

[palooka]

This may be common knowledge that has somehow slipped past me, but how are these records kept? Is it just from the individual's memory or is there a physical record etc..? Does anyone know how it works?

Thanks

There's a boxers card that is kept by the boxing club secretary, it is needed when matchmaking, it belongs to the boxer and if they change clubs or retire it goes with them.

[TheWigwam]

This may be common knowledge that has somehow slipped past me, but how are these records kept? Is it just from the individual's memory or is there a physical record etc..? Does anyone know how it works?

Thanks

There's a boxers card that is kept by the boxing club secretary, it is needed when matchmaking, it belongs to the boxer and if they change clubs or retire it goes with them.

Thanks a lot for that, clears it up

[palooka]

This may be common knowledge that has somehow slipped past me, but how are these records kept? Is it just from the individual's memory or is there a physical record etc..? Does anyone know how it works?

Thanks

There's a boxers card that is kept by the boxing club secretary, it is needed when matchmaking, it belongs to the boxer and if they change clubs or retire it goes with them.

Thanks a lot for that, clears it up

That's alright it used to be the same card with the medical check with the doctor, if there wasn't a checkable record there'd be some awful mismatches with open class boxers feasting on novices.

[mrboxhist]

Curry et al.
400-4 sounds strange to me. How many of these fights are verified? Why take Curry´s claim for granted? Every amateur fighter gets, his or hers, share of bad decisions. Was he never robbed by a hometown decision? Add to that all kind of injuries....
http://www.mrboxhist.se

[Rexob]

What about Breland 100-1 or Srr 85-0? None of these records are official just what the fighters tell us

They would be my pick, Breland was a monster in the amateurs.

[crusader]

Curry et al.
400-4 sounds strange to me. How many of these fights are verified? Why take Curry´s claim for granted? Every amateur fighter gets, his or hers, share of bad decisions. Was he never robbed by a hometown decision? Add to that all kind of injuries....
http://www.mrboxhist.se

Over 400 fights is hard for me to believe.

Thing about amateur records is that it's very easy to make them up. amd I suspect that many of the records in this thread are inaccurate.

[Crease]

Felix Savon (358-17)
Teofilo Stevenson (302-20)
Laszlo Papp (301-12-6)
Kid Chocolate (100-0)
Sugar Ray Robinson (85-0)
Ezzard Charles (42-0)

I'd like to see the amateur records of the above fighters.

[mrboxhist]

If anyone tells me how to upload a PDF-file I can bring you 197 of Lászlo Papp's fights.
www.mrboxhist.se