Roach is talking AGAIN

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Roach is talking AGAIN

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Now it is about how good Cotto looks like before the Geale fight. It reminds me his pre-super-fight talking diarrhea. Cotto may end up like Pacquiao.

Roach even went further saying that he likes Cotto's chances against Golovkin:
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/roa ... -golovkin/?

So, maybe Cotto needs to stop hiding and take the Golovkin fight instead of fighting somebody stopped by GGG ?
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Roach has to hear himself speak to feel relevant
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Yes but in this case the opponent is Geale not Mayweather.

Cotto is gonna tear that boy up so Roach can speak confidently for now
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kidbazooka1 wrote:Yes but in this case the opponent is Geale not Mayweather.

Cotto is gonna tear that boy up so Roach can speak confidently for now
He didn't tear up Trout. Why are you so sure that he will do that to Geale ?
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Fortunately for Roach, Cotto ain't exactly fighting Floyd.
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ikorolev wrote:
kidbazooka1 wrote:Yes but in this case the opponent is Geale not Mayweather.

Cotto is gonna tear that boy up so Roach can speak confidently for now
He didn't tear up Trout. Why are you so sure that he will do that to Geale ?
Geale is borderline shot. Trout was at his peak then. And had the speed to trouble Cotto that Geale doesn't.
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ikorolev wrote:
kidbazooka1 wrote:Yes but in this case the opponent is Geale not Mayweather.

Cotto is gonna tear that boy up so Roach can speak confidently for now
He didn't tear up Trout. Why are you so sure that he will do that to Geale ?
Haha

Watch.
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tiny_acres wrote:Roach has to hear himself speak to feel relevant
Everyone needs to speak to be relevant in this day and age. More exposure usually means more money. Roach is a really good trainer, not the best even currently around, but he's even better at getting the spotlight to follow him. Good for him!
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Post by sucracristo »

someone asks questions so he answers them.
if someone asks him if golovkin would murder his fighter, i think roach is
doing his job by saying cotto has a good chance yada yada, especially when
cotto is about to fight geale. you don't agree and tell the press "yeah my guy
would get carried out on a stretcher by GGG". cotto isn't fighting GGG, ever.
he is going to vacate and GGG will have that title in september and cotto will
take K9's ibf 154 and be back in business.
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Roach is talking out his butt

I don't like Cotto's chances in this fight

If people think Geale is shot , cotto is beyond shot and looking beyond this fight

I smell big upset
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Roach is not the best trainer or promoter but he is damned fine in both departments for his fighters.
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Roach would be better respected if he just didn't go over-board in his predictions like he does. He almost always predicts a KO anymore. His crap about Manny's shoulder is tiresome to hear anymore as well. Not the right thing to say if he truly wants a rematch. He did the same thing with JMM, hinting he was on the juice, and it was a lucky shot. JMM publicly said he would take any tests as long as Manny did, then Manny's team dropped it. Talk about hypocrites and sore losers.

Of course he is picking Cotto to win by KO. He has no idea, but is doing his best to hype the fight. He admits being the one that selected Geale, so he must see something about being a good match-up for Cotto. Roach is the catch-weight and hype king of trainers, for sure, but not the best.
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I don't think Geale is a easy fight for Cotto at all, but I think it's a fight that Cotto will win. Cotto also won't be fighting no GGG in his next fight no matter how convincingly he beats Geale, even with GGG being Cottos mandatory if he beats Geale.

People keep talking about Cotto vacating his 160 lb. title after Geale and I think that's a bit far fetched myself. Alvarez has been waiting to move up to 160 against a lucrative opponent like Cotto, that fight will generate a lot of money and they will have no problem giving GGG good step aside money to allow that fight to happen and won't be nearly reluctant to pit the winner of that fight against GGG after the fact.
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I can't stand Freddie Roach, he is a piece of feces and he is a BIGOT/RACIST from a family background full of racist bigots:

Uses the "N" word at 2:24
Calls Ellie Seckbeck a F*cking Jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOfDNzfNm44 Calls dude a "Mexican Motherf*cker", Roach is a cripple that uses his handicap to make people feel sorry for him but he doesn't deserve sympathy at all.

To Hell with what an idiot, retard like Roach says. He better pray that GGG doesn't get to fight Cotto because it will be bad for Miguel.
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FloydtheDuck wrote:Roach is talking out his butt

I don't like Cotto's chances in this fight

If people think Geale is shot , cotto is beyond shot and looking beyond this fight

I smell big upset
Except, I wouldn't call it an upset.
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KBB wrote:Calls dude a "Mexican Motherf*cker"
I always have a laugh when people get their panties in a twist over that episode.

In the heat of the moment people in arguments use whatever descriptors they have; four-eyes, fatso, whatever. This wasn't a big deal at all. Just a mad guy being mad, and doing the same thing people have done from the beginning of time.
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KBB wrote:I can't stand Freddie Roach, he is a piece of feces and he is a BIGOT/RACIST from a family background full of racist bigots:

Uses the "N" word at 2:24
Calls Ellie Seckbeck a F*cking Jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOfDNzfNm44 Calls dude a "Mexican Motherf*cker", Roach is a cripple that uses his handicap to make people feel sorry for him but he doesn't deserve sympathy at all.

To Hell with what an idiot, retard like Roach says. He better pray that GGG doesn't get to fight Cotto because it will be bad for Miguel.
You are right. But since Roach has his condition he is exempt from criticism from most people.
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punchoutsb wrote:
KBB wrote:Calls dude a "Mexican Motherf*cker"
I always have a laugh when people get their panties in a twist over that episode.

In the heat of the moment people in arguments use whatever descriptors they have; four-eyes, fatso, whatever. This wasn't a big deal at all. Just a mad guy being mad, and doing the same thing people have done from the beginning of time.

Sure it isn't according to you but I guess so is using the "N" word, huh?? :roll:
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KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
KBB wrote:Calls dude a "Mexican Motherf*cker"
I always have a laugh when people get their panties in a twist over that episode.

In the heat of the moment people in arguments use whatever descriptors they have; four-eyes, fatso, whatever. This wasn't a big deal at all. Just a mad guy being mad, and doing the same thing people have done from the beginning of time.

Sure it isn't according to you but I guess so is using the "N" word, huh?? :roll:
So you've never once in your life called someone a name when you were mad? A name that used something about the person in a negative light?

It's childish, yes. But not racist. Especially since Mexican isn't a race.
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punchoutsb wrote:So you've never once in your life called someone a name when you were mad? A name that used something about the person in a negative light?

It's childish, yes. But not racist. Especially since Mexican isn't a race.
Calling people N*ggers isn't racist to you? Why are you defending this troublemaker and bully Freddie Roach??
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KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:So you've never once in your life called someone a name when you were mad? A name that used something about the person in a negative light?

It's childish, yes. But not racist. Especially since Mexican isn't a race.
Calling people N*ggers isn't racist to you? Why are you defending this troublemaker and bully Freddie Roach??
I honestly don't know man. Racism is a hatred of an entire people whatever your state of mind. Calling someone a name during a heated argument isn't necessarily indicative of racism. I've seen you call somebody a retard before on here for misspelling something. Does this mean you are bigoted towards people with handicaps? Or, more likely, are you just calling someone a name during an internet argument that was way less confrontational that what Roach was involved in when he called someone a *gasp* "Mexican"?
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punchoutsb wrote:I honestly don't know man. Racism is a hatred of an entire people whatever your state of mind. Calling someone a name during a heated argument isn't necessarily indicative of racism. I've seen you call somebody a retard before on here for misspelling something. Does this mean you are bigoted towards people with handicaps? Or, more likely, are you just calling someone a name during an internet argument that was way less confrontational that what Roach was involved in when he called someone a *gasp* "Mexican"?

I'm bigoted towards idiots who try to diss people with misspellings in their insult. :lol:
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KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:I honestly don't know man. Racism is a hatred of an entire people whatever your state of mind. Calling someone a name during a heated argument isn't necessarily indicative of racism. I've seen you call somebody a retard before on here for misspelling something. Does this mean you are bigoted towards people with handicaps? Or, more likely, are you just calling someone a name during an internet argument that was way less confrontational that what Roach was involved in when he called someone a *gasp* "Mexican"?

I'm bigoted towards idiots who try to diss people with misspellings in their insult. :lol:
See. It's silly to think that someone is bigoted just because of something they say (once) in the heat of the moment. If it happens much more than once then I'd think their may be something there.
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What people say in the heat of the moment is almost always what they think. If somebody calls another person a jew or an N word in the heat of the moment, it most likely means that he thinks that being a jew or black somehow makes you bad.
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ikorolev wrote:What people say in the heat of the moment is almost always what they think. If somebody calls another person a jew or an N word in the heat of the moment, it most likely means that he thinks that being a jew or black somehow makes you bad.
I disagree that it's "almost always" what they think. It definitely can be the case, but it can also just be schoolyard crap of grabbing whatever difference this person has from you. Believe me, in my time working security I've heard a lot. Short dude gets called a midget by a guy who's friends are almost all shorter than the "midget". It's just trying to use a descriptor to rile someone up or make them feel bad. I have a cousin (white) who still lives in the ghetto. He has a black wife, three bi-racial children and always refers to the black community as us. He's got his own rap group, and he's the only white guy. Yet when he gets in a scuffle with a black guy, N-words are thrown all over. How can this guy be racist when he really believes he's black himself?
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