JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ CONSIDERS FULL-TIME MOVE TO U.S.

[Baby Face Finster]

Mexico is a shit hole atm. I don't blame him one bit for wanting to move.

[macaca]

He actually speaks better English than most people in Texas and Cali, has a boat load of skills and experience, he would not have a problem getting a green card, but sad that Mexico is getting so fucked up...

[kidbazooka1]

Its no joke in mexico right now.

They dont care who you are.

Folks are ruthless down there.

[kidbazooka1]

Its no joke in mexico right now.

They dont care who you are.

Folks are ruthless down there.

Most Mexicans are humble, hard-working people. But the cartels have been terrorizing the country for almost a decade. The tremendous upsurge in massacres, kidnappings, etc happened shortly after Mexico banned the death penalty in 2005. Like it or not, the death penalty DOES serve as a deterrent and many Mexicans are calling for it to be reinstated.

Yes by folks i meant the cartels.

[caldo2025]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

[KBB]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

So a "Punk" KO'd your beloved Manny Pacquiao?? What does that make Manny Pacquiao if he let a "punk" KO him in the worst KO in boxing history??

Once again, you being the Insinuating Person that you are have came here to cast suspicions on a fighter with NO/ZERO/NADA/ZILCH proof whatsoever as to someone cheating.

I've noticed a serious trend with you, anyone that stands in opposition to Manny Pacquiao you have something bad to say about them, but yet you call yourself a "boxing" fan.

Do you have any proof whatsoever of JMM juicing?? Where are your facts?? If you are going to say JMM is juicing with no facts, couldn't someone say that Manny Pacquiao was juicing given what Freddie Roach stated about Ariza giving Manny those "SPECIAL SHAKES"???

Where's your sense of objectivity and fairness??

[Lenny Cravats]

Its no joke in mexico right now.

They dont care who you are.

Folks are ruthless down there.

Most Mexicans are humble, hard-working people. But the cartels have been terrorizing the country for almost a decade. The tremendous upsurge in massacres, kidnappings, etc happened shortly after Mexico banned the death penalty in 2005. Like it or not, the death penalty DOES serve as a deterrent and many Mexicans are calling for it to be reinstated.

Just what are you basing that on?

And the rise of the cartels can be assigned to, amongst other things - a growing wealth disparity, poor education, and government corruption. I know that you're a seriously right-wing, gun-loving, gay-hating, abortion-denying, God-obsessed preacher, but surely you can't make such a tenuous link and parade it as fact, can you?

Now, I imagine you know this, as you were correct on the year that Mexico abolished the death penalty, but can you please state when the death penalty was last actually used in a civilian case? It would be the fair thing to do after peddling that nonsense after all.

(if anyone doesn't know, well, I can't imagine anyone on this forum was even born the last time it was used. And yes, I'm including BoxBuzz on this one).

[Tanzio]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

Who cornholed you without lubricant?

The Planquiao was one of the most perfectly setup and executed shots in boxing history. JMM did not fail any tests, as Manny didn't prior to Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, etc.

Do you have proof? Unfortunately for you, it is impossible to surgically remove The Planquiao.

[diddy]

I'm not a big fan of JMM or Pac but it's beyond obvious JMM was on the sauce for the last Manny fight. All the logic is there. The thudding power. The sudden body transformation at such a late age. Heredia. Connect the dots. They are talking out loud.

That said I suspect Manny was still probably using at the time as well or was coming off the PEDs. It was around that time his power surge started to dissipate when people started giving him the hairy eyeball.

And please dont insult my intelligence with this "didnt fail a test" crap. Memo is too smart to allow that happen. Stanard piss tests are a complete joke. The only guys who fail those are being neglectful/careless with their cycle or not getting proper advice.

[sucracristo]

I know that you're a seriously right-wing, gun-loving, gay-hating, abortion-denying, God-obsessed preacher.

you left out capitalist pig, climate change denier, racist, misogynist, carnivore.

[caldo2025]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

So a "Punk" KO'd your beloved Manny Pacquiao?? What does that make Manny Pacquiao if he let a "punk" KO him in the worst KO in boxing history??

Once again, you being the Insinuating Person that you are have came here to cast suspicions on a fighter with NO/ZERO/NADA/ZILCH proof whatsoever as to someone cheating.

I've noticed a serious trend with you, anyone that stands in opposition to Manny Pacquiao you have something bad to say about them, but yet you call yourself a "boxing" fan.

Do you have any proof whatsoever of JMM juicing?? Where are your facts?? If you are going to say JMM is juicing with no facts, couldn't someone say that Manny Pacquiao was juicing given what Freddie Roach stated about Ariza giving Manny those "SPECIAL SHAKES"???

Where's your sense of objectivity and fairness??

The trend with you KBB is that you will lash out at anyone that has a supporting view of Manny. Why is that? How is it that you can't let a comment about Manny get by without some BS comment?

First off, don't you think that POS, Aziza, would have come out by now with first hand proof that he witnessed Manny on the juice? He was his S&C trainer for how many years? With all the BS that went on between camps during the Rios/Pac fight, you think that wouldn't have been brought up by this idiot? He kicks a guy with Alzheimers but he's going to somehow hold that bombshell in? He's clearly a guy that loves the microphone spewing crap.

Now let's look at the facts surrounding JMM? Circumstantial in both cases but people get life in prison for circumstantial evidence all the time. What about the fact that he employed Memo Heredia, the guy that admits he was the one personally injecting Marion Jones and many other Olympians with steroids for years. Evidence? I'd say so. How about the eye test? I'm not into to laws of physics but I've never seen a 40 year old guy completely change his muscle mass like JMM did for the Pac and Alvarado fights. It's as obvious as it gets. In 3 fights together, Manny received every punch JMM has in his tool chest and all of a sudden his throwing bombs from left field knocking Manny into the air and on his back? Come on dude, you really are ridiculous.

Even the Grandfather of steroids, Victor Conte, believes JMM is on the juice so that's like bringing in Dr. Baden to help prosecution get a verdict. Here's some tweets from him for you to chew on:

JMM is doping @Vada_Testing

Many boxers will do whatever it takes 2 be competitive. No random testing means more who feel they must use PEDs 2 be on a level field.

JMM is 40 yrs old w/ muslces poping out, acne all over his chest, @Guruscience Memo as his trainer & @BobArum & boxing do get it

@BrandonSpano @TwoPieceBoxing @Guruscience @b_low77 Does boxing know that elevated testosterone levels in teen males can cause acne?


What do you for proof KBB? Lets hear your theories since I just bitch slapped you here. Whatchagot?

[caldo2025]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

Who cornholed you without lubricant?

The Planquiao was one of the most perfectly setup and executed shots in boxing history. JMM did not fail any tests, as Manny didn't prior to Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, etc.

Do you have proof? Unfortunately for you, it is impossible to surgically remove The Planquiao.

Another foolish comment by a Pacman hater. There's more circumstantial evidence that JMM juiced for the last Pacman and Alvarado fight than against it. They didn't test for either fight goofball so how does someone fail a test that is never taken. Read up a little before offering some dumb comments, it will help your argument so much more.

If the Godfather of steroids, Victory Conte,also claims that JMM was juicing than i think it's pretty safe to say that he's a great witness for the prosecution that JMM is a juice head. I know you probably don't know how to click on a link and read but see below for some proof. Can't wait to hear your rely...oh wait, i don't give a sh*t:

http://www.steroidal.com/boxer-juan-man ... -steroids/

[tiny_acres]

I have no proof but I suspect JMM as much as I used to suspect
Pacquiao. But I also suspect Klitschko and many others.
It is just speculation and with no proof what can you do?

The way testing is ran they won't catch too many cheaters any ways.

[jamesmcdonnell]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

Any proof of that wild accusation?

Margarito was caught red handed, Marquez has never failed any drug tests, and frankly, if you're going to make accusations, I could make the same accusations of 'I'm scared of needles' Manny - so let's not go there. I won't make those accusations as there is no proof that I can see, that EITHER man ever took PEDs.


I personally had Marquez winning every fight with Pacquaio, the 1st clearly despite the disastrous start, as I thought Marquez won every round from 3rd-12th, the 2nd by a very close margin, so could have gone either way, and the 3rd pretty easily too - the 4th, well we know how that panned out.

I'm sure that Marquez speaks highly of you too.

[jamesmcdonnell]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

Who cornholed you without lubricant?

The Planquiao was one of the most perfectly setup and executed shots in boxing history. JMM did not fail any tests, as Manny didn't prior to Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, etc.

Do you have proof? Unfortunately for you, it is impossible to surgically remove The Planquiao.

Another foolish comment by a Pacman hater. There's more circumstantial evidence that JMM juiced for the last Pacman and Alvarado fight than against it. They didn't test for either fight goofball so how does someone fail a test that is never taken. Read up a little before offering some dumb comments, it will help your argument so much more.

If the Godfather of steroids, Victory Conte,also claims that JMM was juicing than i think it's pretty safe to say that he's a great witness for the prosecution that JMM is a juice head. I know you probably don't know how to click on a link and read but see below for some proof. Can't wait to hear your rely...oh wait, i don't give a sh*t:

http://www.steroidal.com/boxer-juan-man ... -steroids/

Whilst you cannot pass a test you didn't take, neither can you fail it.

None of this constitutes proof - the clue is in the URL of the link you provided 'accused.

You may suspect he did, I may suspect, but there is zero proof.' Who knows what Conte's motivation is, perhaps he likes seeing his name being put out there, it still isn't proof, given that he doesn't have any evidence either.

You're a moron.

[KBB]

The trend with you KBB is that you will lash out at anyone that has a supporting view of Manny. Why is that? How is it that you can't let a comment about Manny get by without some BS comment?

First off, don't you think that POS, Aziza, would have come out by now with first hand proof that he witnessed Manny on the juice? He was his S&C trainer for how many years? With all the BS that went on between camps during the Rios/Pac fight, you think that wouldn't have been brought up by this idiot? He kicks a guy with Alzheimers but he's going to somehow hold that bombshell in? He's clearly a guy that loves the microphone spewing crap.

Now let's look at the facts surrounding JMM? Circumstantial in both cases but people get life in prison for circumstantial evidence all the time. What about the fact that he employed Memo Heredia, the guy that admits he was the one personally injecting Marion Jones and many other Olympians with steroids for years. Evidence? I'd say so. How about the eye test? I'm not into to laws of physics but I've never seen a 40 year old guy completely change his muscle mass like JMM did for the Pac and Alvarado fights. It's as obvious as it gets. In 3 fights together, Manny received every punch JMM has in his tool chest and all of a sudden his throwing bombs from left field knocking Manny into the air and on his back? Come on dude, you really are ridiculous.

Even the Grandfather of steroids, Victor Conte, believes JMM is on the juice so that's like bringing in Dr. Baden to help prosecution get a verdict. Here's some tweets from him for you to chew on:

JMM is doping @Vada_Testing

Many boxers will do whatever it takes 2 be competitive. No random testing means more who feel they must use PEDs 2 be on a level field.

JMM is 40 yrs old w/ muslces poping out, acne all over his chest, @Guruscience Memo as his trainer & @BobArum & boxing do get it

@BrandonSpano @TwoPieceBoxing @Guruscience @b_low77 Does boxing know that elevated testosterone levels in teen males can cause acne?


What do you for proof KBB? Lets hear your theories since I just bitch slapped you here. Whatchagot?

I don't have a problem with people saying things about Manny, what I despise is people like you pretending he is some angel or something or making up lies to support him or somehow try and make him look better by stepping on someone else.

Maybe you misunderstand that Ariza doesn't need to come out with proof that he was spiking Manny's shakes, that would mean he would be incriminating himself, Roach is the one who has to provide the proof. LOL, what part of that did you not understand?? LOL

He kicked the idiot Roach who has Alzheimers because Roach is a racist piece of poo that insults people all the time and then tries to hide behind his disability, did you see the video I posted when Roach is calling a guy a Jew MFer, a Mexican man-he called a "Mexican MFer" and he starts out saying "How y'all N*ggers doing"??

So you feel sorry for a guy like that?? If you do, then you are just like him.

As far as JMM, you have NO Proof and you clearly avoided answering my question that challenged you to accept whether or not Manny Pacquiao may have been on something because his own piece of crap Trainer Freddie Roach accused Ariza of spiking Manny's Shakes making them "Special" which is far more an indictment of something suspicious than your hearsay from Conte or someone who isn't directly involved with JMM like Roach is with Manny.

[Tanzio]

It's strange how he'll decide to move to the USA after his career is over. I'm sure it hasn't nothing to do with Mexico's strict drug policy and ease at which he could use and buy steroids. His KO victory over Manny was no less dirty than another Mexican from Tijuana loading his gloves to beat Cotto senseless.

JMM is a punk. Manny gives the guy 3 rematches to give him a chance to finally load up in the medicine cabinet to beat him the only way he knew how. JMM think he wins every fight he's in. He even thought that the FMJ fight was close. Stay where you are JMM, we don't need you.

Who cornholed you without lubricant?

The Planquiao was one of the most perfectly setup and executed shots in boxing history. JMM did not fail any tests, as Manny didn't prior to Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, etc.

Do you have proof? Unfortunately for you, it is impossible to surgically remove The Planquiao.

Another foolish comment by a Pacman hater. There's more circumstantial evidence that JMM juiced for the last Pacman and Alvarado fight than against it. They didn't test for either fight goofball so how does someone fail a test that is never taken. Read up a little before offering some dumb comments, it will help your argument so much more.

If the Godfather of steroids, Victory Conte,also claims that JMM was juicing than i think it's pretty safe to say that he's a great witness for the prosecution that JMM is a juice head. I know you probably don't know how to click on a link and read but see below for some proof. Can't wait to hear your rely...oh wait, i don't give a sh*t:

http://www.steroidal.com/boxer-juan-man ... -steroids/

The only fool here is the person trying to rationalize The Planquiao away. I know it doesn't sit well with you, given your Pacroids and all, but Manny lost in the most conclusive way possible.

[Tanzio]

I'm not a big fan of JMM or Pac but it's beyond obvious JMM was on the sauce for the last Manny fight. All the logic is there. The thudding power. The sudden body transformation at such a late age. Heredia. Connect the dots. They are talking out loud.

That said I suspect Manny was still probably using at the time as well or was coming off the PEDs. It was around that time his power surge started to dissipate when people started giving him the hairy eyeball.

And please dont insult my intelligence with this "didnt fail a test" crap. Memo is too smart to allow that happen. Stanard piss tests are a complete joke. The only guys who fail those are being neglectful/careless with their cycle or not getting proper advice.

You "suspect" that Manny and JMM have juiced. Thanks for that earth shattering proclamation, but you have no proof. Therefore, both are as guilty as everyone else in every sport that anyone suspects of doping - not at all.

[Dancin' Dan]

Sticking to the actual subject.... His sister already lives here in the Peninsula area of Los Angeles. Wouldn't blame him for bringing his family somewhere safer.

Also, it is easy to run around and say Marquez, Pac, Mayweather, etc are on roids. Nothing is proven. Period. Marquez has been a brilliant fighter for so long. Watched him at the Forum a lifetime ago. So slick and a tremendous counterpuncher then too. The fights with Pac were awesome for both of them. Marquez' style is very tough on someone who comes forward. Easier for someone like Mayweather who doesn't. Styles make fights. Watch Ali, Frazier, Foreman - it doesn't make sense till you see it.

Last - all these guys are great, great fighters. Pac came up from under flyweight. Mayweather from Jr. Light. Marquez from feather. Incredible longevity and talent in all of them. Roids don't give you skills.

[caldo2025]

Whilst you cannot pass a test you didn't take, neither can you fail it.

None of this constitutes proof - the clue is in the URL of the link you provided 'accused.

You may suspect he did, I may suspect, but there is zero proof.' Who knows what Conte's motivation is, perhaps he likes seeing his name being put out there, it still isn't proof, given that he doesn't have any evidence either.

You're a moron.

Wait, but you said that JMM passed the test for the fight but there was no test so how did you get that info, genius? Oh, you were talking about JMM taking a Geometry Test or Algebra test before the fight? He passed? That's awesome, man. I'm sure his Mom is proud.

Conte' is so good at slinging illegal steroids and dosing athletes that he's actually getting paid to detect steroid abusers and consult on steroid cases by NFL, NBA and MLB. So, i'm pretty sure a guy can detect a user better than you or I can.

Awesome sign off light at the end there, that was classy.

[caldo2025]

I don't have a problem with people saying things about Manny, what I despise is people like you pretending he is some angel or something or making up lies to support him or somehow try and make him look better by stepping on someone else.

Maybe you misunderstand that Ariza doesn't need to come out with proof that he was spiking Manny's shakes, that would mean he would be incriminating himself, Roach is the one who has to provide the proof. LOL, what part of that did you not understand?? LOL

He kicked the idiot Roach who has Alzheimers because Roach is a racist piece of poo that insults people all the time and then tries to hide behind his disability, did you see the video I posted when Roach is calling a guy a Jew MFer, a Mexican man-he called a "Mexican MFer" and he starts out saying "How y'all N*ggers doing"??

So you feel sorry for a guy like that?? If you do, then you are just like him.

As far as JMM, you have NO Proof and you clearly avoided answering my question that challenged you to accept whether or not Manny Pacquiao may have been on something because his own piece of crap Trainer Freddie Roach accused Ariza of spiking Manny's Shakes making them "Special" which is far more an indictment of something suspicious than your hearsay from Conte or someone who isn't directly involved with JMM like Roach is with Manny.

Manny could have done steroids but I really don't think that he did. His body looks the same it did 8 years ago and he's never had an issues making any weight class he's been in. In his prime he had some big knockouts but that's what great boxers do in their prime so a boxer shouldn't be able to carry that power into late 30's. I'm not sure about "the shake" deal you are referring to but if you have time send me the link. I want to know what you guys are talking about with that.

I saw a few clips of Roach using the N word but everyone in the room was laughing so it looked like an inside joke. If he's a racist then that's not a great look and would definitely affect the way i view him. He has been saying some stuff for years though and through the fight build up with the recent fight, he just kept piping in with negative stuff that fight didn't need to be surrounded with. Unfortunately , he's getting more and more like Arum.

How you people can support or defend anyone that hurts a disabled person is beyond me, though. That's pretty sad to consider that people actually feel like this and somehow that's the same as a few stupid offending words. God forbid if any of you have a relative with the disease and have to deal with that awful disease then you would know like I do unfortunately, it's a really really stupid position to take. I hope you never have to deal with it, wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[Lenny Cravats]

Most Mexicans are humble, hard-working people. But the cartels have been terrorizing the country for almost a decade. The tremendous upsurge in massacres, kidnappings, etc happened shortly after Mexico banned the death penalty in 2005. Like it or not, the death penalty DOES serve as a deterrent and many Mexicans are calling for it to be reinstated.

Just what are you basing that on?

And the rise of the cartels can be assigned to, amongst other things - a growing wealth disparity, poor education, and government corruption. I know that you're a seriously right-wing, gun-loving, gay-hating, abortion-denying, God-obsessed preacher, but surely you can't make such a tenuous link and parade it as fact, can you?

Now, I imagine you know this, as you were correct on the year that Mexico abolished the death penalty, but can you please state when the death penalty was last actually used in a civilian case? It would be the fair thing to do after peddling that nonsense after all.

(if anyone doesn't know, well, I can't imagine anyone on this forum was even born the last time it was used. And yes, I'm including BoxBuzz on this one).

Amazing how one phrase in a long comment can set someone into a frenetic tizzie!! It was just an offhand remark I made in the context of defending Mexicans in general as being humble, hard-working people. I rarely bring politics into my boxing posts, but you apparently read every post I make, in hopes of finding something to offend your political correctness!!

If you think I'm going to bow to your PC sensibilities by studiously avoiding expressing ANY of my beliefs in the context of the topic at hand, you are setting yourself up to be greatly disappointed!!

If my political/religious beliefs disturb you THAT MUCH, then put me on "ignore" or just avoid reading my freaking posts... :idea:

BTW...I never said abolition of the death penalty "caused the rise of the cartels". The cartels existed LONG before 2005. The 2005 ban on the death penalty merely stimulated (to quote my original post) "the tremendous upsurge in massacres, kidnappings, etc." done BY the cartels, which have been around for decades before the surge of post-death penalty violence. Even tho the death penalty hadnt been used for quite a while, BANNING it removes it as even being an option.

If you really hate the death penalty that much, you should have far greater beef with the Mexican people than with me: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... n/4817247/

Surveys by polling firms and media outlets in Mexico over the past seven years show that support for the death penalty has increased to a point where a majority would like to see it reinstated. Recent polls found 70%-80% would like to see the death penalty imposed for crimes such as murder and kidnapping, a rate above the majority support for the death penalty in the USA.

The rising support for the death penalty in Mexico comes amid gruesome kidnappings and mass murders committed by criminals and drug cartels in recent years.

One phrase in a long comment? It was three lines and that opinion, alongside stating that most Mexicans are in support of the death penalty, was the reason for your post.

What's PC about the clarification I posted? If being PC means to rely on actual evidence then, well, call me PC I suppose.

I don't want to put you on ignore. You know a lot about boxing and I've learnt a lot of new names from reading your posts. That doesn't mean that I'm going to let a post containing an opinion masquerading as fact that is entirely incorrect, go by unnoticed. The overwhelming evidence suggests that the death penalty does not serve as a deterrent.

I'd heard the figure was 70% for reinstatement in Mexico - but that doesn't mean anything in terms of how effective a deterrent it is.